Well he jumped off the ship when he was running for the leadership of the Conservative Party. He didn't think he could win. Many were ticked off at him for doing so thinking he could have and had supported him. Sorry but you've got to stay at the helm willing to go through the storms even when it doesn't look good. Other leaders had done it in the past and come out winners. I suppose he wasn't willing to take the chance.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.
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same here! A vaccine cannot separate you from God
Can't alter your DNA and if it did that can't affect your salvation.
If people don't want to take vaccine due to legitimate concerns over side effects, that's fine. I think it should be a free choice.
But let's stop with the myths and scaremongering theology. God is love !
Can't alter your DNA and if it did that can't affect your salvation.
If people don't want to take vaccine due to legitimate concerns over side effects, that's fine. I think it should be a free choice.
But let's stop with the myths and scaremongering theology. God is love !
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Time will tell doesn't work for me. It takes years and years to test a vaccine for efficacy and safety. This one is being pushed on the entire world population even though it's been only a year. Doesn't that give you pause? I'm not sure it matters all that much. Being absent from the body is being present with the Lord, so if this vax is a killer, well, you will be with the Lord sooner than you thought.
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What I find interesting is that people who have gotten both shots for this Covid vaccine series are now coming down with Covid.
Only it's suppose to be a "delta" strain.
Paul Stanley of the rock group KISS recently tested positive for that new strain. He's fully vaccinated as is everyone involved in the KISS tour that's out now.
I have a feeling there's going to be even more bad news about all that, people getting a new strain of Covid after vaccination for the old one, and we'll find out the reason being the first vaccination series made their immune system susceptible to just about any virus out there.
When government offers to pay people to get the vaccine, that's suspect in my book. It's a free shot. And you're paying me to go get it?
Only it's suppose to be a "delta" strain.
Paul Stanley of the rock group KISS recently tested positive for that new strain. He's fully vaccinated as is everyone involved in the KISS tour that's out now.
I have a feeling there's going to be even more bad news about all that, people getting a new strain of Covid after vaccination for the old one, and we'll find out the reason being the first vaccination series made their immune system susceptible to just about any virus out there.
When government offers to pay people to get the vaccine, that's suspect in my book. It's a free shot. And you're paying me to go get it?
Pfizer is asking for military bases and sovereign assets as guarantee for vaccines delivery
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...rma-and-multinationals-on-geopolitical-stage/
https://theconservativetreehouse.co...rma-and-multinationals-on-geopolitical-stage/
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And I don't know what to think totally about the vaccines. Do I feel all together comfortable about them? Nope. But what's a fella supposed to do?
There's different dimensions to this subject I seldom hear people even address. I don't think they're even aware this is any. It's either get the vaccine or don't and if you don't it's because well.....they're not perhaps good for you.
Now consider this. I read on a different site where one said God told them to take the vaccine for if he didn't and wasn't able to fly and be mobile in his ministry that would take him out of the will of God. He is such a one that NEEDS to travel, that is for work in the kingdom. Now here's my situation. I work in for a food program for the less fortunate or if you want to call it a soup kitchen. We believe we're conducting the Lord's work of loving the community. Here's the thing. In my region they're beginning strong talks of making staff in restaurants, public gatherings....all workers in them needing to be vaccinated. Of course we're not a restaurant in any business sense but by government we'd be treated the same way. The head of our program hasn't mentioned it yet but I'm thinking as it's leader he'll soon be pressured to make sure all staff have the vax. SO....what do you do? You feel God's told you to do this ministry and have joy in doing so....but now you can't if you don't take the vax? So what do we do? Do we allow Satan, YES SATAN, to stop something that is a blessing to humans in need?
Something we feel called to do? It's all so very well for dearly beloved Christians here say don't take the vax with all great passions and I have even found insightful some of the things yous have shared. If we stop though the work of God how is that not allowing the devil to prevail over the chruch? Jesus said THIS SHOULD NOT BE the gates of Hell will not prevail against my church. Matt 16:18 Could it be the Lord might be saying take the stupid vaccine and I'll give you immunity over it. He said you shall take up serpents and if you drink any deadly thing it shall not harm you. Mk 16:17 Did he say that or not? And did he not tell Moses one time to take a serpent by the tail and it wouldn't hurt him? Ex 4:4 Now one might say but you shouldn't tempt God as in on purpose doing something that could be not good.....but if he's called you, called you, CALLED YOU to be doing such a thing (help in the food program) and you don't so what does it become....wouldn't it be allowing fear to take you out of God's will? I SAID God said you shall take them up that is something that might not be good.
It SHALL NOT harm you! Mk 16:18 And I always did wonder what that scripture meant. Could it almost have been prophetic giving a message to the people of our day about YES a time where you might have to take something up? I'm not interested in trying to convince anyone what I'm saying is true. I'm still trying to get the feel if it is myself. What I ask of each one is that they pray about these things and I mean if there's one time where you needed to claim Jm 1: 5 where you claim wisdom from God who will give to all men liberally this most certainly is such a time. I really ask everyone to be in agreement with me personally too that God will reveal to me his absolute insight on the matter. Much appreciated and God Bless!
There's different dimensions to this subject I seldom hear people even address. I don't think they're even aware this is any. It's either get the vaccine or don't and if you don't it's because well.....they're not perhaps good for you.
Now consider this. I read on a different site where one said God told them to take the vaccine for if he didn't and wasn't able to fly and be mobile in his ministry that would take him out of the will of God. He is such a one that NEEDS to travel, that is for work in the kingdom. Now here's my situation. I work in for a food program for the less fortunate or if you want to call it a soup kitchen. We believe we're conducting the Lord's work of loving the community. Here's the thing. In my region they're beginning strong talks of making staff in restaurants, public gatherings....all workers in them needing to be vaccinated. Of course we're not a restaurant in any business sense but by government we'd be treated the same way. The head of our program hasn't mentioned it yet but I'm thinking as it's leader he'll soon be pressured to make sure all staff have the vax. SO....what do you do? You feel God's told you to do this ministry and have joy in doing so....but now you can't if you don't take the vax? So what do we do? Do we allow Satan, YES SATAN, to stop something that is a blessing to humans in need?
Something we feel called to do? It's all so very well for dearly beloved Christians here say don't take the vax with all great passions and I have even found insightful some of the things yous have shared. If we stop though the work of God how is that not allowing the devil to prevail over the chruch? Jesus said THIS SHOULD NOT BE the gates of Hell will not prevail against my church. Matt 16:18 Could it be the Lord might be saying take the stupid vaccine and I'll give you immunity over it. He said you shall take up serpents and if you drink any deadly thing it shall not harm you. Mk 16:17 Did he say that or not? And did he not tell Moses one time to take a serpent by the tail and it wouldn't hurt him? Ex 4:4 Now one might say but you shouldn't tempt God as in on purpose doing something that could be not good.....but if he's called you, called you, CALLED YOU to be doing such a thing (help in the food program) and you don't so what does it become....wouldn't it be allowing fear to take you out of God's will? I SAID God said you shall take them up that is something that might not be good.
It SHALL NOT harm you! Mk 16:18 And I always did wonder what that scripture meant. Could it almost have been prophetic giving a message to the people of our day about YES a time where you might have to take something up? I'm not interested in trying to convince anyone what I'm saying is true. I'm still trying to get the feel if it is myself. What I ask of each one is that they pray about these things and I mean if there's one time where you needed to claim Jm 1: 5 where you claim wisdom from God who will give to all men liberally this most certainly is such a time. I really ask everyone to be in agreement with me personally too that God will reveal to me his absolute insight on the matter. Much appreciated and God Bless!
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I saw this video on another site. How far true it is I do not know. But it said they (whoever they are??) are wanting to reduce the number of people in the world so the planet is not so stretched. If what is considered conspiracy about the vaccines are indeed true (as I really have no idea at this stage) I wonder if the vaccine will reduce the number of people in this world as they are saying that in three to four years time the vaccines would have taken a toll on the body.
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I agree with you. It doesn't seperate people from God or cause them to lose their salvation.
But do you trust these present earthly authorities to tell us the truth?
This whole thing boils down to placing blind faith in global goverment & it's controlled-media narrative.
Based on their behaviour we have more reason to doubt what they tell us than we have to believe it.
On those grounds I refuse the vaccine.
But do you trust these present earthly authorities to tell us the truth?
This whole thing boils down to placing blind faith in global goverment & it's controlled-media narrative.
Based on their behaviour we have more reason to doubt what they tell us than we have to believe it.
On those grounds I refuse the vaccine.
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Kelly Higgins: 31-year-old Ohio woman talked into Moderna injection by her doctor, develops blood clots, myocarditis three days later
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GETAWAY, OHIO — A 31-year-old mother, wife and nurse confided in her doctor for medical advice. Now she faces an uncertain future.
Mrs. Kelly Higgins received the first dose of experimental Moderna mRNA on August 10, according to her Facebook page. She had avoided receiving the injections due to healthy skepticism. But she said that resulted in “shaming culture” at her job. She apparently endured “sarcastic memes” and “snarky comments” at work because she was scared to receive “a brand new medication.”
Mrs. Higgins said her doctor answered all questions about the Moderna mRNA injections. That led her to roll up her sleeve and receive the injection. Mrs. Higgins implored people to “research, research, research” and talk to their doctor if they are hesitant.
Two days later, Mrs. Higgins again implored everyone to talk to their doctors because doctors “love and care” about you. She said it was her doctor who “turn[ed] my no into a yes.”
Meanwhile she was suffering from severe adverse effects.
Mrs. Higgins felt heart palpitations and general malaise within six hours after the injection. She went to urgent care the day after the injection and tested negative for COVID-19. She called a “COVID hotline” on August 13 and was advised to go to the emergency room because she also now had chest pains. Doctors said she was suffering from “inflammation,” but no blood clots or heart attack.
Symptoms continue worsening
Seven days after the injection, Mrs. Higgins said she was “miserable.” The only thing helping her chest pains and heart palpitations was medication, she said. Mrs. Higgins also reported body aches, headaches, dry mouth and a fever. Doctors appeared desperate to blame COVID, giving her two more tests since the first one. She said her condition had gotten to the point that she had great difficulty caring for her baby and doing work around the house.
Doctors at King’s Daughter Medical Center diagnosed her with blood clots in her lungs. Mrs. Higgins said she now had to face the possibility of dying and leaving her children without a mother.
Later that evening, Mrs. Higgins said doctors confirmed that she was having a “very exaggerated response to the vaccine.” They also told her the grim truth: that they don’t know a lot about any of what was happening to her (since all of the experimental injections are still in clinical trials). She’s receiving Lovenox injections to help prevent further blood clots.
This day was also her first sign of regret. “If you want to get vaccinated, that’s great. I fully support you.. but the shaming has to stop for those who choose not to,” she said.
Later that day, she again expressed regret, implying that she was shamed into getting something she didn’t want.
Back to work, uncertain future
Mrs. Higgins provided another update on August 19. She was concerned because she’d been in the hospital for days and her kids didn’t understand why. She once again confirmed she was suffering from blood clots and myocarditis, and now added thrombocytopenia (low blood platelets). Mrs. Higgins had CT scans, X-rays, echocardiograms, and, of course, more COVID-19 tests.
Mrs. Higgins reported that she went back to work yesterday for the first time in two weeks. But her August 22 update is a lot to unpack. She implored people to talk to their doctors still, despite her doctor giving her advice that led to myocarditis and blood clots. She also had this to say:
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GETAWAY, OHIO — A 31-year-old mother, wife and nurse confided in her doctor for medical advice. Now she faces an uncertain future.
Mrs. Kelly Higgins received the first dose of experimental Moderna mRNA on August 10, according to her Facebook page. She had avoided receiving the injections due to healthy skepticism. But she said that resulted in “shaming culture” at her job. She apparently endured “sarcastic memes” and “snarky comments” at work because she was scared to receive “a brand new medication.”
Mrs. Higgins said her doctor answered all questions about the Moderna mRNA injections. That led her to roll up her sleeve and receive the injection. Mrs. Higgins implored people to “research, research, research” and talk to their doctor if they are hesitant.
Two days later, Mrs. Higgins again implored everyone to talk to their doctors because doctors “love and care” about you. She said it was her doctor who “turn[ed] my no into a yes.”
Meanwhile she was suffering from severe adverse effects.
Mrs. Higgins felt heart palpitations and general malaise within six hours after the injection. She went to urgent care the day after the injection and tested negative for COVID-19. She called a “COVID hotline” on August 13 and was advised to go to the emergency room because she also now had chest pains. Doctors said she was suffering from “inflammation,” but no blood clots or heart attack.
Symptoms continue worsening
Seven days after the injection, Mrs. Higgins said she was “miserable.” The only thing helping her chest pains and heart palpitations was medication, she said. Mrs. Higgins also reported body aches, headaches, dry mouth and a fever. Doctors appeared desperate to blame COVID, giving her two more tests since the first one. She said her condition had gotten to the point that she had great difficulty caring for her baby and doing work around the house.
Doctors at King’s Daughter Medical Center diagnosed her with blood clots in her lungs. Mrs. Higgins said she now had to face the possibility of dying and leaving her children without a mother.
Later that evening, Mrs. Higgins said doctors confirmed that she was having a “very exaggerated response to the vaccine.” They also told her the grim truth: that they don’t know a lot about any of what was happening to her (since all of the experimental injections are still in clinical trials). She’s receiving Lovenox injections to help prevent further blood clots.
This day was also her first sign of regret. “If you want to get vaccinated, that’s great. I fully support you.. but the shaming has to stop for those who choose not to,” she said.
Later that day, she again expressed regret, implying that she was shamed into getting something she didn’t want.
Back to work, uncertain future
Mrs. Higgins provided another update on August 19. She was concerned because she’d been in the hospital for days and her kids didn’t understand why. She once again confirmed she was suffering from blood clots and myocarditis, and now added thrombocytopenia (low blood platelets). Mrs. Higgins had CT scans, X-rays, echocardiograms, and, of course, more COVID-19 tests.
Mrs. Higgins reported that she went back to work yesterday for the first time in two weeks. But her August 22 update is a lot to unpack. She implored people to talk to their doctors still, despite her doctor giving her advice that led to myocarditis and blood clots. She also had this to say:
“I don’t ever want anyone to think I am anti-vax, or that I believe COVID isn’t real..or whatever other impression may be floating out there in Facebook land. I never want to advise anyone on whether or not they should get the jab because I think it’s a personal thing and everyone is different.”
Nobody claimed that the vaccine has no sideeffects or will not harm. But in these days we have unvaccined people sick in our hospitals. And the virus will have more side and longtime effects then the vaccine.
If you like to report, you will find more then about the virus victims then the vaccined.
But, i fear in the net you will find more about the vaccined victims. It is an interest to create a false picture about it.
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