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FreeGrace2 said:
First, there is no such thing as an "infilling of the Holy Spirit". There is an indwelling and there is the filling, which is different. Which did you mean by the conflated word that you used?
Second, NO believer from Adam on received the Holy Spirit upon believing in the Messiah, UNTIL the Day of Pentecost. It's all in Acts 2. Initially, only Jews received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon faith in Christ immediately. In Acts 8 Gentiles had hands laid on them after they believed in order to receive the Holy Spirit.
lol. How could I have corrected your made up word if I hadn't read your post?
Again, there is no such thing as the "infilling" of the Holy Spirit.
Maybe you could edit your own posts before sharing.
First, there is no such thing as an "infilling of the Holy Spirit". There is an indwelling and there is the filling, which is different. Which did you mean by the conflated word that you used?
Second, NO believer from Adam on received the Holy Spirit upon believing in the Messiah, UNTIL the Day of Pentecost. It's all in Acts 2. Initially, only Jews received the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon faith in Christ immediately. In Acts 8 Gentiles had hands laid on them after they believed in order to receive the Holy Spirit.
lol. How could I have corrected your made up word if I hadn't read your post?
Again, there is no such thing as the "infilling" of the Holy Spirit.
Maybe you could edit your own posts before sharing.
Btw:
HEB.6:-5 And this we will do ( laying aside those religious symbols, baptisms,laying on of hands,raising the dead ECT ) if God permit.For it is impossible for THOSE who were ONCE enlightened,and have TASTED of the HEAVENLY GIFT,AND WERE MADE PARTAKERS OF THE HOLY GHOST,and have TASTED the GOOD WORD OF God and the POWERS of the world to come,
The FOUNDATION is Jesus and his shed blood,then we follow his commands to keep building on that sure foundation JESUS. We leave the symbolic acts behind ( for there is much greater) having been filled with the Holy Ghost ( Acts 2:1-4 ) we continue to press's toward the mark.
God has a plan for each of us,some obey some not so much!
If you stagnate at the first fruits of repentance you are not moving forward or growing .
Jesus' sacrifice was ALL,ALL,ALL,ALL that is required to be forgiven !!!!!!!
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but yourself and mr wonderful think it is by water...hope you use a good deodorant type soap
the rest of us say that is not true
interestingly, the Bible says that is not true
“I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. no water...all God's doing, why? BECAUSE HE DECIDED TO FOR HIS OWN SAKE which sounds like what we call grace Isaiah 43:25
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight Ephesians 1:7-8
how are we saved?
THROUGH JESUS BLOOD.
but you ride that lie about water right to the bitter end while telling others they are not saved.
you tell others to read a verse and compare verses and go on about your integrity and you are pointedly and completely wrong and you will never admit it short of an intervention by God Himself. sadly though, it is my experience that having gone down this error over and over and over in your mind, you have created deep ruts of deception that you need help to climb out of
God can do this for you. You don't even have to apologize to anyone. Although once you are set free from the deception of believing in water regeneration, you probably will want to do that anyway.
but yourself and mr wonderful think it is by water...hope you use a good deodorant type soap
the rest of us say that is not true
interestingly, the Bible says that is not true
“I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. no water...all God's doing, why? BECAUSE HE DECIDED TO FOR HIS OWN SAKE which sounds like what we call grace Isaiah 43:25
4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6 and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
7 so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight Ephesians 1:7-8
how are we saved?
THROUGH JESUS BLOOD.
but you ride that lie about water right to the bitter end while telling others they are not saved.
you tell others to read a verse and compare verses and go on about your integrity and you are pointedly and completely wrong and you will never admit it short of an intervention by God Himself. sadly though, it is my experience that having gone down this error over and over and over in your mind, you have created deep ruts of deception that you need help to climb out of
God can do this for you. You don't even have to apologize to anyone. Although once you are set free from the deception of believing in water regeneration, you probably will want to do that anyway.
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