Documentary—7 Pretrib Problems and the Prewrath Rapture
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Believers in the Christ will be covered from the wrath of God; a type and shadow of this protection is recorded in Exodus when the Hebrews were marked by lamb's blood as the angel of death roamed the streets.
The culmination of the age will not be marked by those in Christ in full retreat from the incursion of the enemy. We have nothing to fear. I think what rattles the denominations so much is that they do not know protection, preservation, and abundant life apart from the world's systems (the systems of the Kosmos). Prominent Evangelical and Charismatic preachers are taking advantage of this fear by selling buckets of MRE's to their flock. God will repay them for the harm they cause to the children.
That's all I have to say about this topic.
The culmination of the age will not be marked by those in Christ in full retreat from the incursion of the enemy. We have nothing to fear. I think what rattles the denominations so much is that they do not know protection, preservation, and abundant life apart from the world's systems (the systems of the Kosmos). Prominent Evangelical and Charismatic preachers are taking advantage of this fear by selling buckets of MRE's to their flock. God will repay them for the harm they cause to the children.
That's all I have to say about this topic.
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Not from this verse or passage, other than the fact that Jesus said "Let not your heart be troubled". But other passages clearly show the reason for the Tribulation. It is the time of Jacob's trouble.
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Dan 12:1)
"Jacob" and "thy people" stand for Israel and the Jews. The Church is not subject to this period of Tribulation under the Antichrist. Which also happens to be an expression of the wrath of God towards the unbelieving and the wicked.
The Church will be in Heaven when the Antichrist takes total control of the earth. The Holy Spirit (who restrains Satan and the Antichrist) must first be "taken out of the way". And since the Church is indwelt by the Spirit, the saints are also removed from the earth at that time. Evil will reign for 3 1/2 years.
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. (Dan 12:1)
"Jacob" and "thy people" stand for Israel and the Jews. The Church is not subject to this period of Tribulation under the Antichrist. Which also happens to be an expression of the wrath of God towards the unbelieving and the wicked.
The Church will be in Heaven when the Antichrist takes total control of the earth. The Holy Spirit (who restrains Satan and the Antichrist) must first be "taken out of the way". And since the Church is indwelt by the Spirit, the saints are also removed from the earth at that time. Evil will reign for 3 1/2 years.
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That is incorrect. Just as Enoch was raptured before the Flood, just as Noah's family entered the Ark before the Flood, just as Lot's family was dragged out of Sodom before its judgment, God removes His saints from periods of His wrath against the wicked. And only a fool would deny that God allowing Satan and the Antichrist total control for 3 1/2 years is not a part of His wrath. Indeed the judgments of the first six trumpets will occur at this time, while those of the 7th trumpet will be a part of the Great Tribulation. And "God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ".
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This is an excellent documentary on the rapture. It's a little long (2 hours 16 min.), but it's worth watching. It's a very professional production with graphics and illustrations throughout. It takes the pre-wrath position and does a very thorough job of comparing that with pre-trib. Enjoy! 
I have been looking at the reasoning/scriptures behind this twofold rapture theory I discovered not long ago. It says that the first rapture consists of a glorification/transfiguration event and a rapture event. This rapture will be for the glorified gentile chosen ones and the main harvest that undergoes further refining when great tribulation comes to those who are part of the lukewarm church. This theory does account for some who will not be a part of this rapture. Some will become martyrs according to Revelation 2:10 because they had soiled garments and were not ready when the glorification event took place. According to this theory, this rapture will help the the remnant of Israel to realize that Jesus is their Lord.
The second rapture event is for those who overcome. In this theory the second rapture would occur after the great tribulation for the remnant of Israel mentioned in Matthew 24. It would consist of those who are the called, chosen, and faithful of Israel and any gentiles who refuse the mark of the beast under great tribulation. Of course there will be some of the 144.000 of Israel and other gentiles who become martyrs as well during this period. In this theory, these servants who are preserved by the Lord are removed before the Day of the Lord begins. From what I have seen, the following scriptures are given to support this second rapture. The Matthew 24:29-31 verses weren't given but perhaps could be applicable to this second rapture.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-10
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
Matthew 24:36-44
Revelation 14:14-16
Matthew 24:29-31
However the Lord coordinates things, I do agree that there will be a pre-wrath rapture.
I assume that we all agree that these things require wisdom and wisdom is from god only.That wisdom can not be found in the land of the living.That in fact we must die to self.and die daily.This in fact is the way to find youth in Asia,.The fountain of youth that is of course is Jesus.point is if one wants to know the future they must first be known by him.Knowledge puff up love makes clear.
Lot and noah.
Both framed by Jesus exactly what they were. PREJUDGEMENT dynamics.
It even says watch and be ready
Wicked in both instances in another location and both ISOLATED into judgement.
Righteous dealt with and GEOGRAPHICALLY separated.
Same with the baby Jesus. He escaped.
Plus the 2 escape verses.
Yes the foolish virgins enter the trib. Yes they are all martyred EXACTLY as the word of God indicates." ....all take the mark..."
There are NOT verses that erase the pretrib rapture verses.
Point to the time stamp on the vid where ANY pretrib rapture verses get successfully erased.
Both framed by Jesus exactly what they were. PREJUDGEMENT dynamics.
It even says watch and be ready
Wicked in both instances in another location and both ISOLATED into judgement.
Righteous dealt with and GEOGRAPHICALLY separated.
Same with the baby Jesus. He escaped.
Plus the 2 escape verses.
Yes the foolish virgins enter the trib. Yes they are all martyred EXACTLY as the word of God indicates." ....all take the mark..."
There are NOT verses that erase the pretrib rapture verses.
Point to the time stamp on the vid where ANY pretrib rapture verses get successfully erased.
You don't even understand these verses brother. Verses 4-6 is about the 70 AD sacking of Jerusalem, notice the first question, WHEN WILL THESE THINGS BE (Templs destruction Jesus had just explained) AND what is the sign of your coming AND the End of the World?
Then verses 7-14 are about the Church age. NOTICE in verse 6 Jesus says the END(70th week) is not now but later on. Then in verse 14 Jesus explains THE END (70th week) where they could not make a mistake, he stated that the Gospel must be preached unto ALL THE WORLD, then the END (70th week) would come. Thus, the Disciples knew of India and China, so they knew until these nations had heard the Gospel Jesus could not return. Then Jesus goes into the 70th-week END in Matt. 15-31.
When you start put with the wrong premiss you can wrong conclusions. If you think 2 = 3 and say 2 + 2 = 6 in your mind you will be correct, but in truth, you will always be incorrect via that answer. You are saying the Tribulation (70th week) is the verses you cited, that sir is just not true.
Then verses 7-14 are about the Church age. NOTICE in verse 6 Jesus says the END(70th week) is not now but later on. Then in verse 14 Jesus explains THE END (70th week) where they could not make a mistake, he stated that the Gospel must be preached unto ALL THE WORLD, then the END (70th week) would come. Thus, the Disciples knew of India and China, so they knew until these nations had heard the Gospel Jesus could not return. Then Jesus goes into the 70th-week END in Matt. 15-31.
When you start put with the wrong premiss you can wrong conclusions. If you think 2 = 3 and say 2 + 2 = 6 in your mind you will be correct, but in truth, you will always be incorrect via that answer. You are saying the Tribulation (70th week) is the verses you cited, that sir is just not true.
Those being addressed by Paul were troubled about their deceased loved ones. Not about their own skins.
Any other reading takes the exhortation to comfort each other out of context.
Paul wrote in a nutshell-
"Do not grieve about your deceased loved ones. The Lord will raise them before you at his return"
1 Thes 4:
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.
Any other reading takes the exhortation to comfort each other out of context.
Paul wrote in a nutshell-
"Do not grieve about your deceased loved ones. The Lord will raise them before you at his return"
1 Thes 4:
13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.