Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

[flygplan]

Did you read the entire post? Politics is just one of several areas where Leftism has been shown to be an agent of destruction. Which ideology condemns Creationism and exalts the lie of Evolution? Leftism. What has become of the American Educational system? Leftist indoctrination, et al.

Paul says we are not to be ignorant of the devil's devices, and the antidote for ignorance is to get informed.

Hitler wasn't a leftist, but all the contrary. We all know how that ended up. Both sides of politics: left or right when they become radical are bad. Both wings aren't either communist or fascist when moderate. We seem to forget that too easy these days. Even when I do incline towards the right wing, I do not even want to see what this looks like when it becomes radical.

 

[JesusWhereRU]

The key to determining which church Christ did and did not establish, as well as which church is Christ's true church today is found in Revelation 12:17 KJV and Revelation 14:12 KJV, and please pay special attention to the emphasis:

Revelation 12:17 KJV:

"And the dragon (Satan) was wroth with the woman (church) and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED..."​

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(a "remnant" of a thing looks exactly like the the entire thing, as a remnant of a bolt of carpet perfectly matches what was at the beginning of that bolt of carpet -- no changes)

"...which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."​

Revelation 14:12 KJV:

"...keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus."​

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Therefore, God's "remnant" church today is the same as it was in the beginning:

• the church which keeps the commandments of God
• has the testimony of Jesus aka "Spirit of Prophecy" (Revelation 19:10 KJV)
• and has the faith of Jesus Who went to the Cross saying "not My will, but Thine be done"

Catholicism has never taught the commandments of God, does not possess the Spirit of Prophecy, and demands faith be in the Popes/Priesthood - not Jesus - for salvation.

The early church was established in Palestine, not Rome, and that which was moved and headquartered in Rome was not God's church, for God's church had fled from apostasy into the wilderness, as the prophecies said she would - she emerged completely from the wilderness during the era of the Protestant Reformation.

I may not have time to read ALL of this today

but I've read about 1/2

the first thought that comes to me is this: You will never, EVER get me to believe that the Catholic Church is not the Church Christ founded.. I know this because I FOUND Jesus there in a way I could never, ever find Him anywhere else. I tried other communities... I never gained any power over sin until I ... well, first it was the rosary, then I made my way back to the Catholic Church...

The main thing I love about the Church is the Real (tangible, felt) Presence of Jesus Christ which emanates from the consecrated Hosts (John 6:27-72, 1 Cor 11:23...)

Protestants do not know about this, have not experienced it. Until they do, t hey will undoubtedly go on hating Catholicism and of course misunderstanding it completely...

that is their choice...

But again, I myself will never, EVER turn my back on the Jesus I have found in the Real Presence.. Yes, one can experience His Presence through reading His Words in the Bible... and yet, those words... Well, let's put it this way

you can read a letter from someone you love deeply

or you can be in that person's presence..

which do u prefer?

 

[Phoneman-777]

Hitler wasn't a leftist, but all the contrary. We all know how that ended up. Both sides of politics: left or right when they become radical are bad. Both wings aren't either communist or fascist when moderate. We seem to forget that too easy these days. Even when I do incline towards the right wing, I do not even want to see what this looks like when it becomes radical.

Of course Hitler was a leftist. The political spectrum is as follows, from Left to Right:

Total Gov't Totalitarianism -------------------------------------Center-------------------------------------------Zero Gov't. Anarchy

Now, where did Hitler line up? That's right....all the way over to the left, along with Marxism, Nazism, Fascism, Leninism, Stalinism, and every other "big government" ism there is.

 

[Phoneman-777]

I may not have time to read ALL of this today

but I've read about 1/2

the first thought that comes to me is this: You will never, EVER get me to believe that the Catholic Church is not the Church Christ founded.. I know this because I FOUND Jesus there in a way I could never, ever find Him anywhere else. I tried other communities... I never gained any power over sin until I ... well, first it was the rosary, then I made my way back to the Catholic Church...

The main thing I love about the Church is the Real (tangible, felt) Presence of Jesus Christ which emanates from the consecrated Hosts (John 6:27-72, 1 Cor 11:23...)

Protestants do not know about this, have not experienced it. Until they do, t hey will undoubtedly go on hating Catholicism and of course misunderstanding it completely...

that is their choice...

But again, I myself will never, EVER turn my back on the Jesus I have found in the Real Presence.. Yes, one can experience His Presence through reading His Words in the Bible... and yet, those words... Well, let's put it this way

you can read a letter from someone you love deeply

or you can be in that person's presence..

which do u prefer?

While you may have found Christ there, the Catholic church CANNOT be the church Christ founded, because the Catholic Church teaches CONTRARY to the Bible and Jesus. The end times message from God to us is to "come out of her (Babylon), MY PEOPLE" which means God's people are found in every faith and system, but we are called to come out of such false ideologies once we hear the voice of God. We can't deny the facts of Scripture about what constitutes God's church, and the Catholic church ain't it.

 

[flygplan]

Of course Hitler was a leftist. The political spectrum is as follows, from Left to Right:

Total Gov't Totalitarianism -------------------------------------Center-------------------------------------------Zero Gov't. Anarchy

Now, where did Hitler line up? That's right....all the way over to the left, along with Marxism, Nazism, Fascism, Leninism, Stalinism, and every other "big government" ism there is.

I guess we need to read a little bit more before throwing just opinions because of what we think. Your "political spectrum" line couldn't be further from the reality of history and politics. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

In his (and Hess's) book; Mein Kampf, Hitler portrays himself as anti-marxist/anti-communist and anti-semitic. Here is why I believe we are called to be careful when throwing information we don't even know we're talking about when it comes to politics and what is what. Totalitarian governments can swing both ways: right or left.

Sir Winston Churchill said this about Hitler's politics in his book "The Gathering Storm":

“All was there—the programme of German resurrection, the technique of party propaganda; the plan for combating Marxism; the concept of a National-Socialist State; the rightful position of Germany at the summit of the world. Here was the new Koran of faith and war: turgid, verbose, shapeless, but pregnant with its message.”

We can obviously see it was his own twisted way of combatting Marxist communism. Obviously his view was not towards a state run economy (Communism) but a market economy that was war-driven, and far-right nationalist, which was driven by mass privatization. So where in all this is communism? I ask.

Now these are facts. Documented; not my gut, not my view on politics. It'd be better to hear more of this and less misinformation. It's more constructive.

 

[Nehemiah6]

So where in all this is communism?

Today it is not the same as back then. We have an amalgam of Marxist/Communist/Fascist/Anarchist/Racist thinking among the American Leftists. Antifa is blatantly Fascist and BLM is blatantly racist. And the word "Socialist" is common to "Nazi" as well as "USSR". Two sides of the same coin. Satanic Bondage and Oppression.

We have the COVID and Vaccine Gestapo at the same time that the State wants to control free speech and install Statism through trillions of dollars going into the wrong hands. Add to that Black Racism (including CRT), where black farmers are given federal assistance and white farmers are denied the same. This was recently ruled unconstitutional, but Biden and the Democrats give a hoot about the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, or the rule of law. Anarchy must prevail before the American Bolsheviks take total control.

 

[Phoneman-777]

I guess we need to read a little bit more before throwing just opinions because of what we think. Your "political spectrum" line couldn't be further from the reality of history and politics. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

In his (and Hess's) book; Mein Kampf, Hitler portrays himself as anti-marxist/anti-communist and anti-semitic. Here is why I believe we are called to be careful when throwing information we don't even know we're talking about when it comes to politics and what is what. Totalitarian governments can swing both ways: right or left.

Sir Winston Churchill said this about Hitler's politics in his book "The Gathering Storm":

“All was there—the programme of German resurrection, the technique of party propaganda; the plan for combating Marxism; the concept of a National-Socialist State; the rightful position of Germany at the summit of the world. Here was the new Koran of faith and war: turgid, verbose, shapeless, but pregnant with its message.”

We can obviously see it was his own twisted way of combatting Marxist communism. Obviously his view was not towards a state run economy (Communism) but a market economy that was war-driven, and far-right nationalist, which was driven by mass privatization. So where in all this is communism? I ask.

Now these are facts. Documented; not my gut, not my view on politics. It'd be better to hear more of this and less misinformation. It's more constructive.

How much control did Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Caesar, etc., wish to exert over the masses?

Would you say it was closer to Total Govt. Control or Anarchy?

You should put down you lying Political Science textbooks and get an actual education on what's really going on:

 

[gb9]

you and i disagree a lot over in the Bible discussion forum, maybe we can agree on this-

what is it going to take to get people to wake up and to see the times we are living in, and what is going on.??

i mean, if the government coming to your door and wanting to inject you with something in a needle does not wake folks up, what will??

 

[49]

you and i disagree a lot over in the Bible discussion forum, maybe we can agree on this-

what is it going to take to get people to wake up and to see the times we are living in, and what is going on.??

i mean, if the government coming to your door and wanting to inject you with something in a needle does not wake folks up, what will??

Folk may disagree with me, and that's fine...the writing is on the wall. To answer your question: when blood is in the streets, and brother turns against brother, child against parent, neighbor against neighbor. It is coming....

 

[gb9]

Folk may disagree with me, and that's fine...the writing is on the wall. To answer your question: when blood is in the streets, and brother turns against brother, child against parent, neighbor against neighbor. It is coming....

i was not speaking to you about disagreeing . i generally agree with you.

sorry i was not clear about that....

 

[49]

i was not speaking to you about disagreeing . i generally agree with you.

sorry i was not clear about that....[/QUOTE

Not at all, I am rarely in BDF, and knew who you were speaking to

Do appreciate though

 

[Phoneman-777]

you and i disagree a lot over in the Bible discussion forum, maybe we can agree on this-

what is it going to take to get people to wake up and to see the times we are living in, and what is going on.??

i mean, if the government coming to your door and wanting to inject you with something in a needle does not wake folks up, what will??

The Protestant Reformers proved from the Bible that the Papacy is the 1st Beast of Revelation 13 - the Antichrist which claims to take the place of Christ. John Wesley wrote a commentary about this very chapter which expressed the sentiments of Historicism's teaching that the 1,260 year reign of the 1st Beast was about to come to a close (the 1,260 years from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.) by virtue of a "deadly wound" and he said the Protestant church was looking for the soon arising of the 2nd Beast which would come up as the 1st Beast was going down.

There's no doubt if any of them were alive today, they'd point to EXACTLY which nation PRECISELY fits the description of that 2nd Beast: the United States. So, it shouldn't surprise anyone this nation is doing what it's doing. Things are NOT going to get better. They're going to get so bad that in desperation, the people will clamor for legislation enforcing worship, and this worship will be global - if anyone refuses to accept the Mark of this global apostate religion, it will not be well with them. But, refuse, we must, if we are Christians at all.

 

[gb9]

The Protestant Reformers proved from the Bible that the Papacy is the 1st Beast of Revelation 13 - the Antichrist which claims to take the place of Christ. John Wesley wrote a commentary about this very chapter which expressed the sentiments of Historicism's teaching that the 1,260 year reign of the 1st Beast was about to come to a close (the 1,260 years from 538 A.D. to 1798 A.D.) by virtue of a "deadly wound" and he said the Protestant church was looking for the soon arising of the 2nd Beast which would come up as the 1st Beast was going down.

There's no doubt if any of them were alive today, they'd point to EXACTLY which nation PRECISELY fits the description of that 2nd Beast: the United States. So, it shouldn't surprise anyone this nation is doing what it's doing. Things are NOT going to get better. They're going to get so bad that in desperation, the people will clamor for legislation enforcing worship, and this worship will be global - if anyone refuses to accept the Mark of this global apostate religion, it will not be well with them. But, refuse, we must, if we are Christians at all.

and to back that up, right here and now folks are demanding the federal gov. mandate vaccines.....

 

[ChoirLoft]

Fascism can’t survive without a government big enough to force it upon us all.

The nature of Fascism is best described as Corporatism. (*)

Corporate 'force' is regularly used against the community irregardless of government awareness or regulation. Sometimes it's applied with government sanction.

Corporate prices are generally fixed - as in pharmaceuticals, food prices, small appliances including electronics, and the garbage we're exposed to in the form of advertising. No government in history has so promulgated its policies and interests upon a civilian population as has American based mega-corporations.

The American government is supported and guided by these corporate interests. Specifically there are three branches of this unelected government; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel. It remains a subject of considerable debate as to which of these branches of unelected government are most dangerous and least considerate of the American public. It is a proven fact that the combination of these three is dangerous aggressive and disinterested in international or domestic law.

It isn't Fascism that can't survive without government in America, it's the other way around. The Federal government as it is known today cannot survive in its present form without this corporate influence and direction. Thus the office of the President of the United States is a middle management position only. True decisions are made by those who "pull his strings" as well as implemented according to the orders he receives. This situation has been apparent since the mid 1960's.

It has been said that if a man is going crazy he should move to Washington, DC where it will not be noticed.

The rest of the self-servicing uninformed public lives elsewhere. Christians, who ought to know better, are so heavenly minded they are of no earthly value.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) Benito Mussolini uttered this definition early in his administration in pre-WWII Italy. It remains true today especially in twenty-first century America.

 

[ChoirLoft]

Well, the only people screaming "fascism" today are those on the left criticizing the right, and the very tactics they claim to use to fight the myth of "right wing fascism" are left wing tactics: leftist big government censure of freedom, leftist media brainwashing, leftist zombie use strong arm tactics described in "Rules for Radicals" with "Radicals" defined politically as "far left ideologues, etc.

None of that sounds remotely even "right of center", but we'll have to agree to disagree

You are correct - provisionally.

It's true political leftists accuse Republicans of fascism at every turn of a discussion, but its also true that political conservatives accuse Democrats of Communist tendencies. Neither is completely accurate. Both disregard the true nature of American politics, which has nothing at all to do with the will of the people.

In truth, rule of the American society is determined by three non-elected groups; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel.

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rourke

"The CIA has every imaginable media outlet covered." - William Casey former director of the CIA

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." -Thomas Jefferson

"No nation ..can.. preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." - James Madison (4th President of the united States)

Neither Democrats nor Republicans are interested in the will or the benefit of the American people. Read their own words;

"The role of government is to rein in the rights of the people." - Bill Clinton (D)

'There ought to be limits to freedom.' - George W. Bush (R)

Anybody who believes that one Democratic leader or a Republican leader can willingly and independently lead America into a prosperous and free future is denying the truth of history and the flow of events. There can be NO liberty or prosperity apart from surrender to Christ Jesus and His will for our lives and for our country.

But America has turned its back upon Jesus - choosing instead to follow religious or political celebrities instead. As a result the gospel has been diluted and God's LAW has been denied.

IF GOD DOESN'T JUDGE AMERICA HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.

Indeed, that judgment may already be upon us.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

[OldSage]

Days of Sodom

 

[OldSage]

 

[Phoneman-777]

and to back that up, right here and now folks are demanding the federal gov. mandate vaccines.....

You mean vaccines for a "virus", the survival rate of which is 99.7%?

 

[Phoneman-777]

The nature of Fascism is best described as Corporatism. (*)

Corporate 'force' is regularly used against the community irregardless of government awareness or regulation. Sometimes it's applied with government sanction.

Corporate prices are generally fixed - as in pharmaceuticals, food prices, small appliances including electronics, and the garbage we're exposed to in the form of advertising. No government in history has so promulgated its policies and interests upon a civilian population as has American based mega-corporations.

The American government is supported and guided by these corporate interests. Specifically there are three branches of this unelected government; the military-industrial complex, the intelligence community and our financial cartel. It remains a subject of considerable debate as to which of these branches of unelected government are most dangerous and least considerate of the American public. It is a proven fact that the combination of these three is dangerous aggressive and disinterested in international or domestic law.

It isn't Fascism that can't survive without government in America, it's the other way around. The Federal government as it is known today cannot survive in its present form without this corporate influence and direction. Thus the office of the President of the United States is a middle management position only. True decisions are made by those who "pull his strings" as well as implemented according to the orders he receives. This situation has been apparent since the mid 1960's.

It has been said that if a man is going crazy he should move to Washington, DC where it will not be noticed.

The rest of the self-servicing uninformed public lives elsewhere. Christians, who ought to know better, are so heavenly minded they are of no earthly value.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) Benito Mussolini uttered this definition early in his administration in pre-WWII Italy. It remains true today especially in twenty-first century America.

It's not the other way around.

Corporations DO NOT have arms with which to shove in our face to impose their will...but GOVERNMENT not only has seemingly unlimited arms at their disposal, but they are in bed with their willing corporate accomplices for the continuous development of new weaponry for use by government via the Military Industrial Complex.

 

[gb9]

You mean vaccines for a "virus", the survival rate of which is 99.7%?

yep, that is the virus that we must get the vax for, it is the only way to survive ( they say).