Jesus Is Our Truth, Reward, And Faithfulness So We Can Lie, Steal, and Fornicate?

[listenyoumust]

Matthew 24:12-13 KJV proves both of you wrong...it says in the last days many saints will kill their agape cold and dead through iniquity, fail to endure to the end, and be lost: Matthew 24:12-13 KJV

And the Ark also had at least one window through which they could have crawled out, and likely a lot more - otherwise the people outside would have drowned and the people inside would have suffocated...

 

[posthuman]

Matthew 24:12-13 KJV proves both of you wrong...it says in the last days many saints will kill their agape cold and dead through iniquity, fail to endure to the end, and be lost: Matthew 24:12-13 KJV

And the Ark also had at least one window through which they could have crawled out, and likely a lot more - otherwise the people outside would have drowned and the people inside would have suffocated...

what do you figure you're going to tell Him on that day?

lord, lord, didn't i urge them not to trust You? ​

didn't i preach to them to faithlessly try justify themselves through works?​

didn't i steadfastly teach that the cross was ineffective?
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[listenyoumust]

brother thank so much for sharing . iron sharpen iron . firstly Matthew 24:12-13 KJV was referring to the day of the lord's appearance will be as a thief in the night to the unbeliever. to the believer his day of justification .. he didnt justify him but believed God for a reward. like Abraham. thanks for the proverbs. you seem to put diligence in studying . reason this word

 

[Phoneman-777]

what's my point??
my point is that y'all butchering the scripture in order to preach a false gospel of works.
and you're all puffed up telling yourself how smart you are while you act like fools.

that's antichrist.

Butchering? It was from your very own butcher shop that you made that twisted claim the wicked are able to possess "agape" by falsely equating the verb "agapeo" which simply means "to love", with the noun "agape" which is specifically the unconditional, divine love from above -- or have you forgotten?

FELLOW CHRISTIANS, IF YOU AGREE WITH POSTHUMAN
THAT THE WICKED ARE ABLE TO POSSESS "AGAPE"
PLEASE STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.

(For those of you who might be considering this heretical nonsense, please read why he's wrong):
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John plainly tells us that "agape" is known only to the commandment keeping saints (1 John 5:2-3 KJV) which IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIES the wicked due to their inability to keep the commandments (Romans 8:7 KJV).

 

[Phoneman-777]

Being a SDA puts you at odds with NT salvation .

Being a OSAS believer puts you at odds with Christ.

 

[listenyoumust]

Butchering? It was from your very own butcher shop that you made that twisted claim the wicked are able to possess "agape" by falsely equating the verb "agapeo" which simply means "to love", with the noun "agape" which is specifically the unconditional, divine love from above -- or have you forgotten?

FELLOW CHRISTIANS, IF YOU AGREE WITH POSTHUMAN
THAT THE WICKED ARE ABLE TO POSSESS "AGAPE"
PLEASE STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.

(For those of you who might be considering this heretical nonsense, please read why he's wrong):
​

John plainly tells us that "agape" is known only to the commandment keeping saints (1 John 5:2-3 KJV) which IMMEDIATELY DISQUALIFIES the wicked due to their inability to keep the commandments (Romans 8:7 KJV).

for ypu pointing a finger is it okay to refere to you a pharisee?according to scripture.

 

[Phoneman-777]

the Law proved you were a sinner.

And Jesus proved by the indwelling power of the Spirit, we can be obedient to the same.

 

[Phoneman-777]

You twisted that
It doesn't say "are called the least by those in the kingdom of heaven" it says "shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven" why did you twist it?

You have said previously they will be damned but Jesus said they shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven, they are though still in the kingdom of heaven.

Paul taught exactly the same doctrine about false teachers who would build upon the foundation he had laid their works would be burned up and they will suffer loss although they will be saved but as through fire. This also is the famous doctrine of Hebrews chapter 10 that everybody worries about.

There is no such thing as a born again christian losing their salvation.

As to the covenant of the law it was God who wrote it who also annulled it. In Jeremiah God foretold He would make a new covenant with the Jews because they had broken the covenant that then existed. Jesus said His blood was the blood of that new covenant.

God never at any time entered into a covenant of law with the Gentiles, we are not given the commandments of Moses we are given the good news about Jesus Christ. We do keep HIS commands.

And if you want to preach Moses you should be aware that you opening the door to adultery for Moses law allows for divorce upon the production of a written note of divorce ... Jesus said that is adultery.

You preach greasy grace, sloppy agape, and make grace a disgrace. You ignore the parable of the Unmerciful Servant who was fully forgiven and fully conscious of it, but wound up having his impossible debt reinstated because he refused to continue in the grace of his master.

 

[Phoneman-777]

for ypu pointing a finger is it okay to refere to you a pharisee?according to scripture.

You mean pointing out false doctrine? We're told in Scripture it's our duty. (Ephesians 5:11 KJV)

 

[Phoneman-777]

Once they were in the ark they could not get out for it could only be opened from the outside. The ark signifies salvation.

The Ark had windows...maybe read the story again?

 

[listenyoumust]

You mean pointing out false doctrine? We're told in Scripture it's our duty.

not likely as i thought . brother do your work , i love you, correct with meekness.if your intention is truly to gain a brother. or maybe you are projecting by pointing the finger ....hmmm food for thought

 

[Phoneman-777]

when are you going to realize that if God gives us a righteous heart we don't need a ministry of death to tell us that we shouldn't steal?

LOL The way you people fight to forget our obligation to obey the Ten Commandments - especially when He even began one of them with the word "REMEMBER" - it's a wonder God only wrote them in stone instead of writing them in the stratosphere!

 

[Phoneman-777]

who is this imaginary person you think God has supernaturally saved, given a new heart, and is renewing their mind and conforming to His image, but who hates righteousness and wants to spend all their lives in sin?

you're living in your own head spending all your time here hating imaginary people that don't exist, dude. your entire conversation is animosity towards people that do not exist.

God saves.
when He saves, He saves.
quit acting like He only half-saves and fails even at that. did Christ die for nothing??

"Imaginary"?

Is that why porn addiction is so prevalent among "Christian" men?

Is that why many businessmen refuse to do business with professed "Christians"?

Is that why divorce is so prevalent among "Christian" couples?

Is that why children grow up and want nothing to do with Christ because of the example of their "Christian" parents?

I think you need to re-evaluate whether the problem with disregard of God's Ten Commandments is "imaginary" among "Christians", especially OSAS Licensees and Antinomianists whose bread and butter is fighting against God's law.

 

[Phoneman-777]

THROUGH DEATH YET THE BELIEVER ARE LIBERATED MY BROTHER. NO CONTRADICTION THERE.

"He who sins is slave to sin" no matter how much they raise their hands in church and accuse others of "leeeeeeeeeeeeegalism".

 

[listenyoumust]

The Ark had windows...maybe read the story again?

the trouble wi

LOL The way you people fight to forget our obligation to obey the Ten Commandments - especially when He even began one of them with the word "REMEMBER" - it's a wonder God only wrote them in stone instead of writing them in the stratosphere!

the dysfuction in your learning is from the way you read .. the bible is not a history book of facts .... its the word of God IS spirit .

"He who sins is slave to sin" no matter how much they raise their hands in church and accuse others of "leeeeeeeeeeeeegalism".

yes you have spoken well. Jesus cured a leper , did he become sin ? no the leper was healed . Jesus in the believer covers sin like it never was there. you need to study differently / i love your zeal

 

[Phoneman-777]

what do you figure you're going to tell Him on that day?

lord, lord, didn't i urge them not to trust You? ​

didn't i preach to them to faithlessly try justify themselves through works?​

didn't i steadfastly teach that the cross was ineffective? ​

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"Go easy on Posthuman, Lord, after all, how could he know he was surrounding himself with all those false pulpit prophets and the only one he had speaking truth to him was a half witted Phoneman."

 

[Phoneman-777]

not likely as i thought . brother do your work , i love you, correct with meekness.if your intention is truly to gain a brother. or maybe you are projecting by pointing the finger ....hmmm food for thought

Thank you for the kind words...however, we are to "earnestly contend for the faith once delivered tothe saints".

When one who professes Christianity tries to decieve the weaker saints by proposing the falsehood that the wicked are able to possess "agape" in order to undermine an argument which destroys once and for all the false doctrine of OSAS and its accompanying License to Sin, we are to contend earnestly against such SATANIC tactics.

I've called on this person repeatedly to publicly withdraw his twisted idea of the wicked obtaining agape, yet he refuses to do so; likely because he is to cowardly to publicly admit his error and lay OSAS aside as a disproven doctrine of devils.

 

[Phoneman-777]

the trouble wi

the dysfuction in your learning is from the way you read .. the bible is not a history book of facts .... its the word of God IS spirit .

yes you have spoken well. Jesus cured a leper , did he become sin ? no the leper was healed . Jesus in the believer covers sin like it never was there. you need to study differently / i love your zeal

I've been telling these poor OSAS Shepherdless sheep that the mercy of God is ONLY for the "Just Man" who falls seven times but takes hold of the uplifting hand of Jesus and is helped back onto the Path of the Just...

...but for the Presumptuous Man who deliberately climbs down into the pit of Ten Commandment breakers, sits down and gets comfortable, swats away the uplifting hand of Jesus, and waves a "OSAS License to Sin" in His face, there is no such mercy for that man.

As you an imagine, the reception is about as good as the one Jesus got when He showed up preaching against that misguided status quo, too.

 

[listenyoumust]

Whoever is trying to promote the Law is denying Grace.
Those who try to push the Sabbath, the 7th day of the week, are those who have never tasted Grace.
I would say to them: 'You must be born again, born anew, born from above, born of the Spirit."
If you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Christ, you will never try to advocate Sabbatarianism.
Seventh Day Adventists are LIARS. (Read bit.ly/trulib1 upto bit.ly/trulib5.)
They have not experienced LIBERTY in Christ; they are still in BONDAGE.

my friend the law by Moses and GRace are one .a seed then a tree.

Thank you for the kind words...however, we are to "earnestly contend for the faith once delivered tothe saints".

When one who professes Christianity tries to decieve the weaker saints by proposing the falsehood that the wicked are able to possess "agape" in order to undermine an argument which destroys once and for all the false doctrine of OSAS and its accompanying License to Sin, we are to contend earnestly against such SATANIC tactics.

I've called on this person repeatedly to publicly withdraw his twisted idea of the wicked obtaining agape, yet he refuses to do so; likely because he is to cowardly to publicly admit his error and lay OSAS aside as a disproven doctrine of devils.

Firstly the wicked shall not escape being burnt ,God wants repentance for all . the simple , froward , proud will not be spared but if any repent his free. remember the parable of the man who took labourers some monrning , some noon and some just evening but paid all same day wage . was the master not fair to be gracious ?

 

[listenyoumust]

I've been telling these poor OSAS Shepherdless sheep that the mercy of God is ONLY for the "Just Man" who falls seven times but takes hold of the uplifting hand of Jesus and is helped back onto the Path of the Just...

...but for the Presumptuous Man who deliberately climbs down into the pit of Ten Commandment breakers, sits down and gets comfortable, swats away the uplifting hand of Jesus, and waves a "OSAS License to Sin" in His face, there is no such mercy for that man.

As you an imagine, the reception is about as good as the one Jesus got when He showed up preaching against that misguided status quo, too.

my brother show them works if they dont understand words . like i said apply meekness, thats a fruit of the spirit.