Why Covid 19 When We Have Healing Power

[Major]

THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT ON THE CHURCH.

In an age when so many people are Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'.

Why has the Covid 19 virus ravaged the world?????? WHY has so many people died???
A lack of faith??????

Does anyone else believe that the Neo-Pentecostal originating at Azuza St. has done more HARM to the Gospel and the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ than the Catholics during the dark ages. The Catholic's destruction was outright visible and UNPRENTENTIOUS, BRUTAL AND CHRISTLESS.

It seems to me that the Pentecostal Charismatic false teaching has harmed God's church in a very subtle way.

 

[Blik]

If we ate only food as God created it, no adjustment of our food by man, our immune system would handle infection, even our science tells us so.

Our food is so extremely man made instead of left as God created it that our main food is processed carbs or white carbs.

 

[JaumeJ]

Perhaps all denominations are doing disservice to our Savior in their abject disagreement with one another. making points of faith the fulcrum of their teaching.

 

[Funkus]

The Azuza street thing has 'danger' warning signs flashing all over it. it isn't good
i'n spiritual warfare you have to pick a side to be on!

 

[Major]

If we ate only food as God created it, no adjustment of our food by man, our immune system would handle infection, even our science tells us so.

Our food is so extremely man made instead of left as God created it that our main food is processed carbs or white carbs.

I do not understand how this comment speaks to the thread in focus.

 

[Major]

The Azuza street thing has 'danger' warning signs flashing all over it. it isn't good
i'n spiritual warfare you have to pick a side to be on!

Actually my friend, it is NECESSARY!

 

[CS1]

THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT ON THE CHURCH.

In an age when so many people are Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'.

Why has the Covid 19 virus ravaged the world?????? WHY has so many people died???
A lack of faith??????

Does anyone else believe that the Neo-Pentecostal originating at Azuza St. has done more HARM to the Gospel and the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ than the Catholics during the dark ages. The Catholic's destruction was outright visible and UNPRENTENTIOUS, BRUTAL AND CHRISTLESS.

It seems to me that the Pentecostal Charismatic false teaching has harmed God's church in a very subtle way.

I think your line of questioning is not founded in truth but more of an opinion.


You don't have to apply this to only COVID-19 any sickness for that matter. If you have issues with the claims
of those who are as you say "Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'"

You should ask them and not assume it is all. FYI Pentecostals have died from COVID-19 too. I know your question is asked out of a bias and to try and place those whom you disagree with in a bad way and that is your issue however, as a pentacostel who was healed and recovered from COVID-19 I can only speak for myself and what I have seen and did.

In California we the " Church were ordered to close down and had placed on us great restrictions that many other places did not.

We did not close our church. we had service outside then moved inside. We visited many homes and advised our elderly to stay home and be safe. We were and are prudent.

You may not know this but we in the United State lose people each year to the flu and Cold approx. 335,000 people except in 2020 because COVID-19 came and the flu and cold did not show up this past winter.


we in our church prayed and battled COVID-19 but the great battle was the spirit of fear that had gripped people and those in church. WE fought suicide, addictions, depression, anger, hate, abuse of children, and wives, poverty, and death.

We lost people to each of those. YET!! God saved, healed, set free and restored, and provided.

IF you did not see any of that which I have mentioned,


"THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT "

On you, why not? What were you doing for the past year? Why were you not feeding the hungry visiting the widows praying for the sick speaking to your mayor and doing all you could to comfort, edify, and build up?

Look in the mirror guy.


We have not been given a spirit of fear but of POWER, LOVE, and a healthy mind!

Did you do any of that? IF not that very INDICTMENT is on you, my friend. How do I know ow that? Because you who judge will be judged by that same Measure you Met.

As for me, I thank God for Hid healing and that I was able to visit the sick ( those who had COVID-19) He Healed by own Daughter

while in the hospital during her surgery on her knee and many in CC were praying for her and she was on the verge of dying pale white. I was not allowed in the hospital only one parent I could only speak to her and the doctor by way of face timeline.

Her lungs were full of fluid and it was not looking good. The doctor told me she has COVID-19 looking to place HER ON A VENTILATOR.

AS THE DOCTOR WAS THERE I told my wife to turn up the volume and so the doctor can hear me and show me to my daughter. I said Doctor we are going to pray right NOW!

I prayed in the name of Jesu her my daughter's healing and prayed in the Spirit as I was led to do so. I after I was done I told my daughter YOU DO NOT have COVID-19. The doctor was very upset and was even more upset when my 16-year-old daughter told that doctor " I do not have COVID-19"

they transported her to " Children hos[ital in Madera CA. The next day she was able to breathe her lungs were clear and she tested four-time negative for COVID-19.

The doctor has called me and my wife more than once hoping we will not sue him but We have the proof.

All Glory to God. So, when you ask this question out of your bias know that God is asking you the same thing.

I want everyone to know if you have a FAMILY MEMBER who has COVID-19 or has lost someone to COVID-19 as I too HAVE THAT HAPPEN. Know that Fear caused more death than COVID-19 and deception. I stand with you all in faith praying and believing God for your healing and protection in Jesus' name amen.


God bless

 

[Major]

I think your line of questioning is not founded in truth but more of an opinion.


You don't have to apply this to only COVID-19 any sickness for that matter. If you have issues with the claims
of those who are as you say "Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'"

You should ask them and not assume it is all. FYI Pentecostals have died from COVID-19 too. I know your question is asked out of a bias and to try and place those whom you disagree with in a bad way and that is your issue however, as a pentacostel who was healed and recovered from COVID-19 I can only speak for myself and what I have seen and did.

In California we the " Church were ordered to close down and had placed on us great restrictions that many other places did not.

We did not close our church. we had service outside then moved inside. We visited many homes and advised our elderly to stay home and be safe. We were and are prudent.

You may not know this but we in the United State lose people each year to the flu and Cold approx. 335,000 people except in 2020 because COVID-19 came and the flu and cold did not show up this past winter.


we in our church prayed and battled COVID-19 but the great battle was the spirit of fear that had gripped people and those in church. WE fought suicide, addictions, depression, anger, hate, abuse of children, and wives, poverty, and death.

We lost people to each of those. YET!! God saved, healed, set free and restored, and provided.

IF you did not see any of that which I have mentioned,


"THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT "

On you, why not? What were you doing for the past year? Why were you not feeding the hungry visiting the widows praying for the sick speaking to your mayor and doing all you could to comfort, edify, and build up?

Look in the mirror guy.


We have not been given a spirit of fear but of POWER, LOVE, and a healthy mind!

Did you do any of that? IF not that very INDICTMENT is on you, my friend. How do I know ow that? Because you who judge will be judged by that same Measure you Met.

As for me, I thank God for Hid healing and that I was able to visit the sick ( those who had COVID-19) He Healed by own Daughter

while in the hospital during her surgery on her knee and many in CC were praying for her and she was on the verge of dying pale white. I was not allowed in the hospital only one parent I could only speak to her and the doctor by way of face timeline.

Her lungs were full of fluid and it was not looking good. The doctor told me she has COVID-19 looking to place HER ON A VENTILATOR.

AS THE DOCTOR WAS THERE I told my wife to turn up the volume and so the doctor can hear me and show me to my daughter. I said Doctor we are going to pray right NOW!

I prayed in the name of Jesu her my daughter's healing and prayed in the Spirit as I was led to do so. I after I was done I told my daughter YOU DO NOT have COVID-19. The doctor was very upset and was even more upset when my 16-year-old daughter told that doctor " I do not have COVID-19"

they transported her to " Children hos[ital in Madera CA. The next day she was able to breathe her lungs were clear and she tested four-time negative for COVID-19.

The doctor has called me and my wife more than once hoping we will not sue him but We have the proof.

All Glory to God. So, when you ask this question out of your bias know that God is asking you the same thing.

I want everyone to know if you have a FAMILY MEMBER who has COVID-19 or has lost someone to COVID-19 as I too HAVE THAT HAPPEN. Know that Fear caused more death than COVID-19 and deception. I stand with you all in faith praying and believing God for your healing and protection in Jesus' name amen.


God bless

I have been involved in feeding the hungry every Tuesday at our church through our food pantry.
We as a church have been doing that now for the past 10 0r 12 years.

And yes, we have prayed for every single person we know of.

But you see.....I am NOT a believer in a man having the ability to call down the Holy Spirit and heal anyone who is sick.
The Bible says that we are to call the ELDERS of the Chruch together and pray for the sick and then GOD DOES THE healing....not a Faith healer by hitting someone on the head.

YOU of course missed the point altogether. There are many people today who believe in the Prosperity Gospel and the Healing ministry of their church.

This is not about you or your family or what has happen to you. I could have included my brother who dies from covid 19 and the neighbor on my street but I did not. I am just asking why there is not a team of faith healers doing what they say can be done???????

The point is.......IF there is such a power available to man today ...then why has over a million people died?????

No doubt your recollection is valid. Now why are YOU not going from room to room in every hospital and healing those in them????/

This has nothing to do with BIAS or anything else. It just a simple question of WHY it continues when many peole such as yourself belive in faith healings. It just seems to me that you would be able to actually answer this very simple, common question that has been asked to me by many others.

 

[CS1]

I have been involved in feeding the hungry every Tuesday at our church through our food pantry.
We as a church have been doing that now for the past 10 0r 12 years.

And yes, we have prayed for every single person we know of.

But you see.....I am NOT a believer in a man having the ability to call down the Holy Spirit and heal anyone who is sick.
The Bible says that we are to call the ELDERS of the Chruch together and pray for the sick and then GOD DOES THE healing....not a Faith healer by hitting someone on the head.

YOU of course missed the point altogether. There are many people today who believe in the Prosperity Gospel and the Healing ministry of their church.

This is not about you or your family or what has happen to you. I could have included my brother who dies from covid 19 and the neighbor on my street but I did not. I am just asking why there is not a team of faith healers doing what they say can be done???????

The point is.......IF there is such a power available to man today ...then why has over a million people died?????

No doubt your recollection is valid. Now why are YOU not going from room to room in every hospital and healing those in them????/

This has nothing to do with BIAS or anything else. It just a simple question of WHY it continues when many peole such as yourself belive in faith healings. It just seems to me that you would be able to actually answer this very simple, common question that has been asked to me by many others.

I agree with you there nor do I believe I can call down anything but I do believe that faith in what God has done in the word of God and we can ask HIM to do it again according to His will.

God saves it in His nature.
Gods heals it is His nature
God provides it is his nature.

 

[Major]

I agree with you there nor do I believe I can call down anything but I do believe that faith in what God has done in the word of God and we can ask HIM to do it again according to His will.

God saves it in His nature.
Gods heals it is His nature
God provides it is his nature.

YES. GOD does all those things.

But NO MAN has the ability heal or raise the dead or to call the Holy Spirit to do as he demands.

 

[CS1]

YES. GOD does all those things.

But NO MAN has the ability heal or raise the dead or to call the Holy Spirit to do as he demands.

I can tell you this God has healed at the prayer of a righteous man As James 5 says. There are many things we can do because of the Name of Jesus that we are asking in Faith. Buda can't Mohammad can't sitting in a trans meditation state starring at your third eyeball

And FYI None here is demanding that is a strawman too. The stuff you come up with you need to leave Youtube alone.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Why has the Covid 19 virus ravaged the world?????? WHY has so many people died??? A lack of faith??????

Those claims were generally invalid. Had the gift of miraculous healings continued to this day (as many claim they have) then the hospitals would have been empty and all COVID patients would have been healed. There are many instances in Scripture where the person who needed healing did not have any faith in Christ. But they were still healed or raised from the dead. So it is not lack of faith on the part of the sick person (who may be an unbeliever).

What should have really happened is that all Christian churches should have responded to the bogus pandemic with one voice: "We will not shut down, neither will we practice masking or social distancing". All governments should have been challenged to establish their case on true science, not fear-mongering.

 

[CS1]

Those claims were generally invalid. Had the gift of miraculous healings continued to this day (as many claim they have) then the hospitals would have been empty and all COVID patients would have been healed. There are many instances in Scripture where the person who needed healing did not have any faith in Christ. But they were still healed or raised from the dead. So it is not a lack of faith on the part of the sick person (who may be an unbeliever).

What should have really happened is that all Christian churches should have responded to the bogus pandemic with one voice: "We will not shut down, neither will we practice masking or social distancing". All governments should have been challenged to establish their case on true science, not fear-mongering.

God doesn't work on your human reasoning, not polls. No is anyone saying a lack of faith why one is not healed BUT Those who come to God must believe that HE IS and a reward of them that diligently seek HIM. God heals Because 1. He loves 2. to show HE is 3. to Bring attention to the Gospel. I don't think you go to hospitals very much do you? in your comment, I can tell you you don't
I dare to take oil and go and anoint the sick and pray for them in the name of Jesus asking HIM to heal Do that then come back.

If you don't have a wonderful experience, challenging, and fulfilling doing so, I will never do it again.

But don't tell me of what would have happened IF gift of miraculous healings continued to this day that the hospitals would be empty

IF you are too scared to even pray for those in the hospital. What a wimp.

 

[Nehemiah6]

IF you are too scared to even pray for those in the hospital. What a wimp.

That is side-stepping the issue. Christians pray for those in hospitals daily. We are talking about miracle-workers doing literal miracles. When Peter and John healed the lame man they simply healed then and there. And all he wanted was a few coins.

 

[CS1]

That is side-stepping the issue. Christians pray for those in hospitals daily. We are talking about miracle-workers doing literal miracles. When Peter and John healed the lame man they simply healed then and there. And all he wanted was a few coins.

You, what about you?

 

[JaumeJ]

You, what about you?

You posst did include the miracle of your blessed daughter, and from here are praises of out maker going up for this healing.

Apparently you also have people responding to you posts without having read them. Not to worry, and I am certain you do not, we are to expect these types of incidents. I read it all and am blessed. You have side-stepped nothing.

 

[PaulChristensen]

THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT ON THE CHURCH.

In an age when so many people are Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'.

Why has the Covid 19 virus ravaged the world?????? WHY has so many people died???
A lack of faith??????

Does anyone else believe that the Neo-Pentecostal originating at Azuza St. has done more HARM to the Gospel and the Church of our Lord Jesus Christ than the Catholics during the dark ages. The Catholic's destruction was outright visible and UNPRENTENTIOUS, BRUTAL AND CHRISTLESS.

It seems to me that the Pentecostal Charismatic false teaching has harmed God's church in a very subtle way.

Are you saying that millions of Pentecostals and Charismatics right around the world who are a major part of God's church and who are getting people saved, healed and released from demonic oppression, are doing harm to God's church?

Maybe it is the false teaching of some Pentecostals and Charismatic who are doing the harm, in the same way that some Evangelicals are doing harm to the church through liberalism, denial of the resurrection, boring ritualistic church services, sermons that are only good for sleeping through, acceptance of homosexuals into the ministry. Notice that I said some Evangelicals, not Evangelicals in general.

I don't hear of Pentecostals or Charismatics burning dissenters at the stake like the Catholics did in their history, or Calvinist Puritans drowning Anabaptists, or New England Calvinists burning innocent women whom they accused of being witches.

 

[Blik]

YES. GOD does all those things.

But NO MAN has the ability heal or raise the dead or to call the Holy Spirit to do as he demands.

When we pray for healing the answer is often to heal the cause of the illness. If someone lives with drugs, sickness will follow. Healing from drugs would be to stop the drugs. Healing from stress related illness would be it relieve the stress.

Prayer for healing should include listening to the Lord for the Lord's ways. If we pray for healing of this virus, it should include listening to what causes our immune system to not handle the infection. That means to leave our food alone and not tamper with how God created it.

When wealthy people learned to only use the starchy white part of grain for bread those thousands of years ago, the wealthy became weak, the strong who couldn't afford it were strong.

 

[CS1]

I have been involved in feeding the hungry every Tuesday at our church through our food pantry.
We as a church have been doing that now for the past 10 0r 12 years.

And yes, we have prayed for every single person we know of.

But you see.....I am NOT a believer in a man having the ability to call down the Holy Spirit and heal anyone who is sick.
The Bible says that we are to call the ELDERS of the Chruch together and pray for the sick and then GOD DOES THE healing....not a Faith healer by hitting someone on the head.

YOU of course missed the point altogether. There are many people today who believe in the Prosperity Gospel and the Healing ministry of their church.

This is not about you or your family or what has happen to you. I could have included my brother who dies from covid 19 and the neighbor on my street but I did not. I am just asking why there is not a team of faith healers doing what they say can be done???????

The point is.......IF there is such a power available to man today ...then why has over a million people died?????

No doubt your recollection is valid. Now why are YOU not going from room to room in every hospital and healing those in them????/

This has nothing to do with BIAS or anything else. It just a simple question of WHY it continues when many peole such as yourself belive in faith healings. It just seems to me that you would be able to actually answer this very simple, common question that has been asked to me by many others.

You did not read my post nor are you doing anything you said you are doing, others are but not you. How can I say that?

because you exposed yourself with this comment:


"Now why are YOU not going from room to room in every hospital and healing those in them????"


This is one of the most foolish questions you have asked.

1. we are in a pandemic and no one can visit the hospitals as they had before
2. Local and Fed Government is attacking the Church and placed restrictions on all of them
3. I could never as one person go to every Hospital and person it
4. Jesus never said to do that he said do what you can
5. The Maricle of my Daughter the hospital has suppressed due to legal reasons


You try to pray for every person in your local hospital and get back to me when you're done.

 

[TheLearner]

I think your line of questioning is not founded in truth but more of an opinion.


You don't have to apply this to only COVID-19 any sickness for that matter. If you have issues with the claims
of those who are as you say "Naming and Claiming healings and victories and are boasting of having so much POWER, PROSPERITY, and MIRACLES..'"

You should ask them and not assume it is all. FYI Pentecostals have died from COVID-19 too. I know your question is asked out of a bias and to try and place those whom you disagree with in a bad way and that is your issue however, as a pentacostel who was healed and recovered from COVID-19 I can only speak for myself and what I have seen and did.

In California we the " Church were ordered to close down and had placed on us great restrictions that many other places did not.

We did not close our church. we had service outside then moved inside. We visited many homes and advised our elderly to stay home and be safe. We were and are prudent.

You may not know this but we in the United State lose people each year to the flu and Cold approx. 335,000 people except in 2020 because COVID-19 came and the flu and cold did not show up this past winter.


we in our church prayed and battled COVID-19 but the great battle was the spirit of fear that had gripped people and those in church. WE fought suicide, addictions, depression, anger, hate, abuse of children, and wives, poverty, and death.

We lost people to each of those. YET!! God saved, healed, set free and restored, and provided.

IF you did not see any of that which I have mentioned,


"THIS is A HARSH BUT TRUE INDICTMENT "

On you, why not? What were you doing for the past year? Why were you not feeding the hungry visiting the widows praying for the sick speaking to your mayor and doing all you could to comfort, edify, and build up?

Look in the mirror guy.


We have not been given a spirit of fear but of POWER, LOVE, and a healthy mind!

Did you do any of that? IF not that very INDICTMENT is on you, my friend. How do I know ow that? Because you who judge will be judged by that same Measure you Met.

As for me, I thank God for Hid healing and that I was able to visit the sick ( those who had COVID-19) He Healed by own Daughter

while in the hospital during her surgery on her knee and many in CC were praying for her and she was on the verge of dying pale white. I was not allowed in the hospital only one parent I could only speak to her and the doctor by way of face timeline.

Her lungs were full of fluid and it was not looking good. The doctor told me she has COVID-19 looking to place HER ON A VENTILATOR.

AS THE DOCTOR WAS THERE I told my wife to turn up the volume and so the doctor can hear me and show me to my daughter. I said Doctor we are going to pray right NOW!

I prayed in the name of Jesu her my daughter's healing and prayed in the Spirit as I was led to do so. I after I was done I told my daughter YOU DO NOT have COVID-19. The doctor was very upset and was even more upset when my 16-year-old daughter told that doctor " I do not have COVID-19"

they transported her to " Children hos[ital in Madera CA. The next day she was able to breathe her lungs were clear and she tested four-time negative for COVID-19.

The doctor has called me and my wife more than once hoping we will not sue him but We have the proof.

All Glory to God. So, when you ask this question out of your bias know that God is asking you the same thing.

I want everyone to know if you have a FAMILY MEMBER who has COVID-19 or has lost someone to COVID-19 as I too HAVE THAT HAPPEN. Know that Fear caused more death than COVID-19 and deception. I stand with you all in faith praying and believing God for your healing and protection in Jesus' name amen.


God bless

sounds like your opinion friend. Google any denomination or church claiming no one in their crowed church are not getting the virus --- news related to that church proves crowed churches are spreading the virus. On my last such google one Calvary Chapel there were 650 cases(forget if this 650 was the full denomination ) and another 50 cases.

More than 50 members of San Antonio area church test positive for coronavirus
More than 50 church members test positive for COVD-19 | kens5.com

In California’s 'Bible Belt,' churches find ways around state's coronavirus lockdown orders

'I accept full responsibility:' Calvary Chapel pastor talks church's COVID-19 outbreak
Churches Were Eager to Reopen. Now They Are Confronting Coronavirus Cases.