What is the Royal Law or Law of Liberty?

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eternally-gratefull

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Your criticisms mean absolutely nothing, as your ability to assess what is and isn't a right relationship with God is as lacking as your ability to rightly divide the Word of Truth.

So, keep trusting in that worthless OSAS License to Sin you think grants you immunity to keep doing the very things that made necessary the death of my dear Savior, and I'll strive to "keep His commandments and do those things which are pleasing in His sight."
Whatever dude, you self righteousness reeks of phariseeism.
I do not teach a license to sin, we teach the law of Christ, in loving and serving our God and our neighbor and in doing so fulfilling what God desires. True faith works, it sees itself as what it is. And changes that self serving will to seek after the things of the spirit, knowing what kind of abba father he has

your right, my criticisms do not mean anything, buts Gods word does. And it is telling you to stop watering down the law to fit your prideful self righteousness, while excusing your own sin while at the same time casting stones at Gods people, who have already repented of their sins and acknowledge them daily.

thr law requires perfection, you are not their yet, so instead of judging others as if you have no sin, fall on your knees and repent of your own sin, and come to the cross where the rest of us have found salvation and power to become the sons of God
 
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eternally-gratefull

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to him who knows to do good and not do so, to him it is sin.

as much as you legalists try to deny this , the " little sins" count the same as " big sins"

in God's eyes, taking a pen home from work without asking as the same as robbing a bank.
It’s amazing they cast stones, when they water down the law and give themselves a license to commit their own sins,
 

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as i said, they think only the " big sins" count.

they fail to realize that God's standard is perfection.

if one does not fully , 100% , with no doubt, trust a perfect sinless Savior, for salvation, they will not receive it.
 
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as i said, they think only the " big sins" count.

they fail to realize that God's standard is perfection.

if one does not fully , 100% , with no doubt, trust a perfect sinless Savior, for salvation, they will not receive it.
Just like the pharisees. Always railed about the big sins. But refused to acknowledge their own sins or outright denied them
 
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Romans 3:21KJV
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

James 2:17-26KJV
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Scripture should harmonize with Scripture,right ? <-----•
GOD was Inspiring James to write to those men about how those men are justified to other men,but their works didn't justify them to GOD.
Romans 4:1-2
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1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?

2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God.
 
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Its a faulty question.
How so? I think it is very relevant.

If you're going to argue that Romans 7:25 teaches that the Christian experience consists of serving God with our minds while simultaneously serving Sin with our flesh, then the question I ask hangs meat on your flawed theological skeleton:

I asked can a man gaze toward heaven in his neighbor's bedroom thinking faithful thoughts to God while in the act of adultery with his neighbor's wife?

The reason you don't answer has nothing to do with the question being "faulty" -- you don't answer because the only answer is "no", which means Romans 7:25 KJV does not teach, as you claim, that the Christian can serve two masters: the Law of the Spirit and the Law of Sin.
 
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Just like the pharisees. Always railed about the big sins. But refused to acknowledge their own sins or outright denied them
Paul says in Hebrews 12:3-4 KJV that until you sweat great drops of blood fighting against the temptation to break the law, he doesn't wanna hear any whining from you or anyone else about how "we can't keep it".
 

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so, of course, you KNOW Paul wrote the letter to the Hebrews....
 
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Whatever dude, you self righteousness reeks of phariseeism.
I do not teach a license to sin, we teach the law of Christ, in loving and serving our God and our neighbor and in doing so fulfilling what God desires. True faith works, it sees itself as what it is. And changes that self serving will to seek after the things of the spirit, knowing what kind of abba father he has

your right, my criticisms do not mean anything, buts Gods word does. And it is telling you to stop watering down the law to fit your prideful self righteousness, while excusing your own sin while at the same time casting stones at Gods people, who have already repented of their sins and acknowledge them daily.

thr law requires perfection, you are not their yet, so instead of judging others as if you have no sin, fall on your knees and repent of your own sin, and come to the cross where the rest of us have found salvation and power to become the sons of God
Your Antinomianism reeks of "lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life" which is the love of the world.

The Arizona Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to block audit of what they claim was "the most honest presidential election ever in U.S. history"...which begs the question, "If there was no fraud, why are they not throwing the entire process open for full investigation so as to prove once and for all there wasn't any?"

If OSAS License to Sin folks really love Jesus - and not the world - then that begs the question, "Why do you need a OSAS License to Sin?"
 
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so, of course, you KNOW Paul wrote the letter to the Hebrews....
Most scholars agree it was Paul, and it's easier to type that instead of "the writer of the book of Hebrews" all the time, right?
 

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Matthew 7:2 (NASB) "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.
 

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How so? I think it is very relevant.

If you're going to argue that Romans 7:25 teaches that the Christian experience consists of serving God with our minds while simultaneously serving Sin with our flesh, then the question I ask hangs meat on your flawed theological skeleton:

I asked can a man gaze toward heaven in his neighbor's bedroom thinking faithful thoughts to God while in the act of adultery with his neighbor's wife?

The reason you don't answer has nothing to do with the question being "faulty" -- you don't answer because the only answer is "no", which means Romans 7:25 KJV does not teach, as you claim, that the Christian can serve two masters: the Law of the Spirit and the Law of Sin.
I've never said any verse teaches anything, to you . You and I haven't discussed what Romans 7.25 is SAYING . You brought it up out of no where and started using it as a proof text for your strange thoughts .
 

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Most scholars agree it was Paul, and it's easier to type that instead of "the writer of the book of Hebrews" all the time, right?
just because the king jimmy version says it was Paul, that does not make it so....
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Paul says in Hebrews 12:3-4 KJV that until you sweat great drops of blood fighting against the temptation to break the law, he doesn't wanna hear any whining from you or anyone else about how "we can't keep it".
If we could keep it. Jesus would have stayed in heaven and placed us under law.
also funny how you pulled scripture out of context, read the next two verses

5 My son, do not despise the[c]chastening of the Lord,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”


he is talking about Gods rebuke and chastening. Not us trying our hardest. You refuse to give God any credit, he will refuse you period
 
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Your Antinomianism reeks of "lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life" which is the love of the world.

The Arizona Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to block audit of what they claim was "the most honest presidential election ever in U.S. history"...which begs the question, "If there was no fraud, why are they not throwing the entire process open for full investigation so as to prove once and for all there wasn't any?"

If OSAS License to Sin folks really love Jesus - and not the world - then that begs the question, "Why do you need a OSAS License to Sin?"
Yet your the one excusing your sin. And pumping your chest like a pharisee.

Good day sir. You have nothing to offer me. Or God
 
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I've never said any verse teaches anything, to you . You and I haven't discussed what Romans 7.25 is SAYING . You brought it up out of no where and started using it as a proof text for your strange thoughts .
So, you're admitting that Romans 7:25 does NOT teach that we can serve two masters: the Law of the Spirit and the Law of Sin?
 
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If we could keep it. Jesus would have stayed in heaven and placed us under law.
You understand nothing. We CAN keep it because we can do "all things" through Jesus, but He would STILL have to have come and died to deliver us from the penalty of having broken it before we had Christ's strengthening power to do "all things". SMH
 
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You understand nothing. We CAN keep it because we can do "all things" through Jesus, but He would STILL have to have come and died to deliver us from the penalty of having broken it before we had Christ's strengthening power to do "all things". SMH
So he did not have to deliver you for future sins? Come on.

yes you can do all things, yet here you are excusing your sins because you supposedly do not commit the big ones.

any sin you commit is punished by the death penalty no matter how small that sin is. When you realize this, maybe then you can truly repent,