I'm thinking about writing a book

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Unearthed

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Hello everybody,

I'm a long time lurker on here and thought I would make the jump and join you all on this forum.

I'm considering writing a book titled "The Great Tithing Scam".
Obviously it would be about how tithing is in fact not a requirement of those living under the new covenant.

Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?

Thank you.
 

Truth7t7

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Hello everybody,

I'm a long time lurker on here and thought I would make the jump and join you all on this forum.

I'm considering writing a book titled "The Great Tithing Scam".
Obviously it would be about how tithing is in fact not a requirement of those living under the new covenant.

Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?

Thank you.
One thing you have correct us, old testament tithing isnt a doctrinal requirement in the Church, but in my opinion a ploy for $$$

The New Testament Church brought their wealth and laid it at the Apoatles feet, and distribution was made to everybody that had need in the Church

A far cry from where things are today, as you have the name it and claim it word of faithers give it to me and you will be blessed, on and on

I personally believe the words should be offering, and reference should be to the scripture below, something I have never heard preached from a pulpit :)

Problem is, very few Churches are distributing to the needs in the body

Acts 4:31-35KJV
31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
 

Lanolin

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well, I look after a church library and notice that some of the older books were like 'give God your money!' so I chucked them out.

You meant to give it to the poor not God. God doesnt need your money. He will pay you back if you give it to the poor.
 

Unearthed

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well, I look after a church library and notice that some of the older books were like 'give God your money!' so I chucked them out.

You meant to give it to the poor not God. God doesnt need your money. He will pay you back if you give it to the poor.
As you will know, all too often church pastors equate themselves with God in the sense that they say giving them your money is giving God your money.
 

Aldg19

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I’m thinking about writing one about my life and it will be a faith based one
 

Lanolin

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As you will know, all too often church pastors equate themselves with God in the sense that they say giving them your money is giving God your money.
well thats silly cos God doesnt need our money lol
Even Jesus back in the day said whos head is on the coin? Caesars not Gods. And Caesar wasnt God. Give to caesar what is caesar's and God what is God's
 

Truth7t7

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As you will know, all too often church pastors equate themselves with God in the sense that they say giving them your money is giving God your money.
In The Name Of Jesus, A Poor Nation In Africa, As People Are Starving?



Top Richest Pastors In Nigeria 2021: Pastors Net Worth And Cars
March 13, 2021


Richest Pastors in Nigeria – The word “Pastor” is derived from Latin and can be translated as a shepherd. The biblical understanding of the word pastor can be translated as the minister. In today’s world, pastors are middlemen between God and men.


Richest Pastors In Nigeria

#1Bishop David Oyedepo$200m – ₦92 billion

#2Pastor Chris Oyakhilome$126m – ₦57.9 billion

#3Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye $110m – ₦50.1 billion

#4Prophet Temitope Babatunde Joshua $100m – ₦46 billion

#5David Ibiyeomie$41m ₦18.8 billion

#6Pastor Ayodele Oritsejafor $32m ~ ₦14.7 billion

#7Sam Adeyemi$19m – ₦8.7 billion

#8Apostle Johnson Suleman$10.5m – ₦4.8 billion
 

ResidentAlien

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Hello everybody,

I'm a long time lurker on here and thought I would make the jump and join you all on this forum.

I'm considering writing a book titled "The Great Tithing Scam".
Obviously it would be about how tithing is in fact not a requirement of those living under the new covenant.

Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?

Thank you.
Yes, this would be a great contribution if done professionally.

New Testament tithing is one of the biggest scams around. It's not taught in the New Testament—notta, zip, zilch. In the New Testament sharing is taught, equality and fairness. The big-name preachers who teach tithing are growing fat from their gullible parishioners. How is that fair or equal?

Someone needs to write a good book exposing this fraud. What really surprises me though is how many people have bought it hook, line and sinker. If they read their Bibles they wouldn't be taken in by this.
 

Truth7t7

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Yes, this would be a great contribution if done professionally.

New Testament tithing is one of the biggest scams around. It's not taught in the New Testament—notta, zip, zilch. In the New Testament sharing is taught, equality and fairness. The big-name preachers who teach tithing are growing fat from their gullible parishioners. How is that fair or equal?

Someone needs to write a good book exposing this fraud. What really surprises me though is how many people have bought it hook, line and sinker. If they read their Bibles they wouldn't be taken in by this.
2 Peter 2:1-3KJV
1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
 

Unearthed

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Yes, this would be a great contribution if done professionally.

New Testament tithing is one of the biggest scams around. It's not taught in the New Testament—notta, zip, zilch. In the New Testament sharing is taught, equality and fairness. The big-name preachers who teach tithing are growing fat from their gullible parishioners. How is that fair or equal?

Someone needs to write a good book exposing this fraud. What really surprises me though is how many people have bought it hook, line and sinker. If they read their Bibles they wouldn't be taken in by this.
I'll write the book but I feel I need some help. If I can get a group of us together to write it that would be fantastic!
 
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Hello everybody,

I'm a long time lurker on here and thought I would make the jump and join you all on this forum.

I'm considering writing a book titled "The Great Tithing Scam".
Obviously it would be about how tithing is in fact not a requirement of those living under the new covenant.

Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?

Thank you.
I agree that tithing Is not required,GOD doesn't need our money but after GOD saves us HE puts In us fruit of the SPIRIT, we are HIS workmanship and then the reborn Christian will want to renew their minds to the new creation that they have become and will display Spiritual fruit so then GOD doesn't need our monies but we now love GOD and our neighbors and will tithe because we want our brother to experence spiritual rebirth.
 

Unearthed

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I agree that tithing Is not required,GOD doesn't need our money but after GOD saves us HE puts In us fruit of the SPIRIT, we are HIS workmanship and then the reborn Christian will want to renew their minds to the new creation that they have become and will display Spiritual fruit so then GOD doesn't need our monies but we now love GOD and our neighbors and will tithe because we want our brother to experence spiritual rebirth.
This is the kind of manipulation I'm talking about.
Giving money to your Church is NOT a sign that you've received forgiveness for your sins. It's a sign that you've been manipulated to think that tithing is a sign of "true belief" or "true faith".
 

Nehemiah6

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Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?
I'm not sure you really need a book on that subject. But if that helps you somehow, then go for it.
 
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In The Name Of Jesus, A Poor Nation In Africa, As People Are Starving?



Top Richest Pastors In Nigeria 2021: Pastors Net Worth And Cars
March 13, 2021


Richest Pastors in Nigeria – The word “Pastor” is derived from Latin and can be translated as a shepherd. The biblical understanding of the word pastor can be translated as the minister. In today’s world, pastors are middlemen between God and men.


Richest Pastors In Nigeria

#1Bishop David Oyedepo$200m – ₦92 billion

#2Pastor Chris Oyakhilome$126m – ₦57.9 billion

#3Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye $110m – ₦50.1 billion

#4Prophet Temitope Babatunde Joshua $100m – ₦46 billion

#5David Ibiyeomie$41m ₦18.8 billion

#6Pastor Ayodele Oritsejafor $32m ~ ₦14.7 billion

#7Sam Adeyemi$19m – ₦8.7 billion

#8Apostle Johnson Suleman$10.5m – ₦4.8 billion
You didn't post your sources, but If this Is true I would wonder If those pastors and bishops think of the poor and If they donate to the poor or If they just see this as If It Is just a lucrative occupation.

Sidenote:Is a billion dollars over there equal to less than or more than a billion dollars In America?😬

1 John 4:18-21
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18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

19 We love him, because he first loved us.

20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.
 
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This is the kind of manipulation I'm talking about.
Giving money to your Church is NOT a sign that you've received forgiveness for your sins. It's a sign that you've been manipulated to think that tithing is a sign of "true belief" or "true faith".
Although I agree with you,but by your response to my post you are saying something I didn't even say I get the feeling you only saw the words " I agree "then you made a trigger happy response.
 
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Hello everybody,

I'm a long time lurker on here and thought I would make the jump and join you all on this forum.

I'm considering writing a book titled "The Great Tithing Scam".
Obviously it would be about how tithing is in fact not a requirement of those living under the new covenant.

Is this something that we feel needs writing and would be a good contribution to Christian culture?

Thank you.
That would be absolutely fantastic. It would bless those that already practice this and are blessed by it's truth.
We'll just pray that God digs deeper into his pockets to keep the little churches functioning.
Those that are blessed to have a building to fellowship in can just pray for the utilities to be free of charge.
What's wrong in giving if you believe in something so strongly.
We are not under the law of tithing but for those that choose to do and give what harm did it do.
It is the steward that has to answer for it. Their the ones held accountable.
I have had many of blessing come from the practice in fact cain and able gave first fruits.
No matter which way you go it's all the lord's we are only stewards of everything and anything.
 

Unearthed

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Although I agree with you,but by your response to my post you are saying something I didn't even say I get the feeling you only saw the words " I agree "then you made a trigger happy response.
You wrote more than just "I agree".

For instance you wrote

"...GOD doesn't need our monies but we now love GOD and our neighbors and will tithe because we want our brother to experence spiritual rebirth".

You're implying that modern day Christians should tithe because they love God. This is incorrect.
 

Unearthed

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That would be absolutely fantastic. It would bless those that already practice this and are blessed by it's truth.
We'll just pray that God digs deeper into his pockets to keep the little churches functioning.
Those that are blessed to have a building to fellowship in can just pray for the utilities to be free of charge.
What's wrong in giving if you believe in something so strongly.
We are not under the law of tithing but for those that choose to do and give what harm did it do.
It is the steward that has to answer for it. Their the ones held accountable.
I have had many of blessing come from the practice in fact cain and able gave first fruits.
No matter which way you go it's all the lord's we are only stewards of everything and anything.
There is nothing wrong with giving to Church. I have never said there is anything wrong with this.
But there is something wrong with the teaching that says that modern Christians must tithe, hence "The Great Tithing Scam".

:)
 

Blik

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The old covenant was breathed by our Holy Creator, it was not of the devil. What is of God is Holy and Good, yet many say it was a mistake and God cancelled His mistake. The Lord does not say that, the Lord told us that He made a better covenant. The old covenant was in stone, the new covenant repeats the old covenant (the laws of the old covenant) but repeats them in our hearts and it is based on love.
 

Unearthed

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The old covenant was breathed by our Holy Creator, it was not of the devil. What is of God is Holy and Good, yet many say it was a mistake and God cancelled His mistake. The Lord does not say that, the Lord told us that He made a better covenant. The old covenant was in stone, the new covenant repeats the old covenant (the laws of the old covenant) but repeats them in our hearts and it is based on love.
So you're saying it's a requirement for modern day Christians to tithe?