Employers requiring a vaccination

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Runningman

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Some employers are mandating that all current and future employees receive a vaccine for covid-19. What this demonstrates is a gross misunderstanding of what a vaccine is. A vaccine is not a cure, doesn't create 100% immunity, and doesn't prevent the spread of viruses. All it does is boost immunity to a virus by tricking the body into creating anti-bodies.

People who have caught covid-19 naturally will have anti-bodies. Therefore, requiring a vaccine is an invalid opinion made by employers with no knowledge of how vaccines work.

Furthermore, if you've already caught a strain of covid-19 then a vaccine would be redundant. Yet they won't accept positive blood test for anti-bodies as sufficient to prove immunity.

So what motivates them? Politics and propaganda. People are pushing for vaccines because that's what their information overlords are saying. They don't think about it; they just repeat what they heard and defend it rigorously.

There really isn't any reasoning with them other than full compliance with their narrative. Therefore, I take the stance of resisting the vaccine at all costs because of the sinister push to force a vaccine, but most of all due to how unethical it is.

Modern vaccines are created from the research and development of testing viruses on the stem cells of murdered babies. I don't want that blood on my hands. Nor will I compromise what's right for money.

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24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
 
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Runningman said:
Some employers are mandating that all current and future employees receive a vaccine for covid-19. What this demonstrates is a gross misunderstanding of what a vaccine is. A vaccine is not a cure, doesn't create 100% immunity, and doesn't prevent the spread of viruses. All it does is boost immunity to a virus by tricking the body into creating anti-bodies.

People who have caught covid-19 naturally will have anti-bodies. Therefore, requiring a vaccine is an invalid opinion made by employers with no knowledge of how vaccines work.

Furthermore, if you've already caught a strain of covid-19 then a vaccine would be redundant. Yet they won't accept positive blood test for anti-bodies as sufficient to prove immunity.

So what motivates them? Politics and propaganda. People are pushing for vaccines because that's what their information overlords are saying. They don't think about it; they just repeat what they heard and defend it rigorously.

There really isn't any reasoning with them other than full compliance with their narrative. Therefore, I take the stance of resisting the vaccine at all costs because of the sinister push to force a vaccine, but most of all due to how unethical it is.

Modern vaccines are created from the research and development of testing viruses on the stem cells of murdered babies. I don't want that blood on my hands. Nor will I compromise what's right for money.

Matthew 6:24
24No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Have already told my employer that I will NOT take the crud EVER.
 
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I got an email today that testing this year will just be highly encouraged. It hinted that next year it might be mandatory. Not gonna take it regardless of mandates. My company deserves to go under. So woke. So stupid. I'm looking for something else. I'm tempted to go Galt and just stop contributing to this whole system anymore. It's all so tiresome.
 
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surfer14 said:
I got an email today that testing this year will just be highly encouraged. It hinted that next year it might be mandatory. Not gonna take it regardless of mandates. My company deserves to go under. So woke. So stupid. I'm looking for something else. I'm tempted to go Galt and just stop contributing to this whole system anymore. It's all so tiresome.
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I don't think all employers will require it, but I've heard some are. It's concerning. You will probably be able to find alternatives to employment.
 
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Runningman

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self employment maybe
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It could come to that. I see the requirement of a vaccine as a gateway to them having full control of peoples' lives. If they can get people to have an experimental vaccine injected into the body for fear of losing employment then where is the line drawn?

Is there a point where you would rather face unemployment than comply with something? If so, what is it?
 
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What employers?
 
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How do y'all feel about public schools requiring polio vaccinations?
 
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How do y'all feel about public schools..?
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Great question. I disagree with them. I think they shouldn't exist. Your kids are your responsibility. It's not a legitimate function of the government.
 
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How do y'all feel about public schools requiring polio vaccinations?
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Polio vaccines have been around for decades. If he surprised if many people are against them

I expect those with a valid medical reason to be exempt from them would be still allowed to go to school
 
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surfer14 said:
Great question. I disagree with them. I think they shouldn't exist. Your kids are your responsibility. It's not a legitimate function of the government.
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So private tutors or private schools would be a better option. for those who are unable to home school their child to senior high school level
 
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I've had mixed messages from the higher-ups on whether or not the vaccine will be required. At my work, I would say the vast majority wants vaccines to be required.

I think the issue is more pressure from co-workers. We have business trips and no one will want to travel with the unvaccinated. Also, outside clients may not want to meet with the unvaccinated.

How do you all plan to react if the employers require masks for the unvaccinated? It is kind of like an identification system.
 
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TheIndianGirl said:
I've had mixed messages from the higher-ups on whether or not the vaccine will be required. At my work, I would say the vast majority wants vaccines to be required.

I think the issue is more pressure from co-workers. We have business trips and no one will want to travel with the unvaccinated. Also, outside clients may not want to meet with the unvaccinated.

How do you all plan to react if the employers require masks for the unvaccinated? It is kind of like an identification system.
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Probably varies by state laws and the type of organization it is that is requiring masks or vaccinations. I think vaccine history is protected private medical information so unless it's required to show proof of vaccine history contingent upon employment then there's probably a medical discrimination case to be made.

I think this might be uncharted legal territory so it'll take some lawsuits to test workplace policies in court in order to set a precedent. It's going to happen.

I think when/if courts do uphold employer's ability to discriminate employment on basis of medical status then it'll be as I suspected all along: we're creeping toward full-blown fascism.
 
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Runningman said:
Some employers are mandating that all current and future employees receive a vaccine for covid-19.
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OSHA has warned them that they would become liable for any impact of adverse vaccination effects on their workers. This would be a Workers Comp issue which would negatively impact the employers. In any event it would be ILLEGAL, since the vaccines are not fully approved but approved for emergency use only (and there is no emergency). Why do these people fail to educate themselves?
 
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