Do agnostics go to hell?

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Platosgal

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The Answer is right from the mouth of Jesus himself.
John 3:3
3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born -again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”


John3:16-17

16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

many stops at that verses but Jesus went on to say :

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18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Being born again is a decision God makes
We are not capable of "birthing " ourselves
Therefore
An Agnostic may be in process- we don't know and can't judge
Our job is to pray for mercy and share the Gospel
 
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No one but Christians are saved.

Every other ideology, philosophy, religion, spirituality, belief system, or lack thereof will not save someone.

Only faith in Christ saves anyone.
It is my belief that God is righteous and merciful and will make an exception for babies or people who can't mentally understand.

Jesus said this in John 9:41:
41Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
You said before that only Christians will be saved and those with a lack of belief system will not be saved. Jesus said "None come to the Father except through me" but as we read passages like John 9:41 (or NT passages about Abraham being saved), it becomes clear that it's more complicated than explicit titles and self-descriptions. Abraham would have called himself a Hebrew, but rejoiced in Christ (John 8:56) without necessarily calling himself a Christian.

I am hesitant to conclusively say that all "agnostics" end up in the same basket.
 

CS1

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The conversation becomes more complicated when we look at theory of mind and the science of belief as a state of consciousness.

https://academic.oup.com/ct/article/25/1/23/4061179

Do agnostics go to hell?
This is the question. From a biblical understanding and the truth of God's word those who do not accept Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior placing their faith in Him, will not be saved from Hell. Human consciousness(the Mind) can be seared or become numb to the calling to repent by the Holy Spirit because of rejection.
 

CS1

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Do babies go to hell?
no babies do not go to hell why do they not go? is it because they are agnostics? No. it has everything to do with the righteous judgment of God. 61 million abortions of living beings were murdered that God fully knew while in the womb. As a normative those who are not babies who have come to the knowledge and tasted of it sinned. Babies have not done so. that is not an argument an agnostic has made a choice to believe that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God. babies are not agnostics.
 

throughfaith

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The only way to be glorified is to recieve Jesus. John 1.12 .
 

Wansvic

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Do agnostics go to hell?
Yes. Only those who obey Jesus and are born again can enter the kingdom of heaven. (John 3:3-5) All others will spend eternity in hell. (Mark 16:16)
 

Wansvic

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Being born again is a decision God makes
We are not capable of "birthing " ourselves
Therefore
An Agnostic may be in process- we don't know and can't judge
Our job is to pray for mercy and share the Gospel
It is God's will that none perish. However, many will due to their personal choices. Jesus said He will knock, but the responsibility of opening the door is required of all those He calls.

"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Rev 3:20
 

Blik

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Do babies go to hell?
I'm almost a 100 years old, I'll soon be going to the Lord,, it is one of the first questions I am going to find out about.

That is why I baptized my babies, speaking for them when they could not speak for themselves and vowing to teach them until they could speak for themselves.
 
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Do agnostics go to hell?
This is the question. From a biblical understanding and the truth of God's word those who do not accept Jesus Christ as the Lord and Savior placing their faith in Him, will not be saved from Hell. Human consciousness(the Mind) can be seared or become numb to the calling to repent by the Holy Spirit because of rejection.
"But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." - James 1:6-8

Self-described agnostics are sometimes trying to express double-mindedness (ambivalence). Teenagers and the like often go through weird stages that end up reinforcing the good in them and aligning their faith in beneficial ways. "Unstable" is a fitting word in those cases. Surely, more important than the words a youth uses for shock value is what is written on their heart (the actual thing they are judged by). We should see this as weak faith as opposed to a lack of faith. Instead of showing contempt for these people we should encourage positive growth.

"Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him." - Romans 14:1-3
 

Funkus

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Why would babies go to hell if Jesus said you have to be like one to enter heaven?
 

Wansvic

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I think the answer to this specific question is. - I don't know?
Because no one knows for sure
Either way
And If you know an agnostic
It is a Christians job to pray for said agnostic
And tell them the gospel
Some times use words
Thankfully we can know for sure. The word is clear, a person who rejects Jesus is destined for hell.

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:48

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16
 

Wansvic

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I'm very glad that I am not the one who decides who will go to hell. Jesus never sent anyone to tell people they are going to hell.

I believe in the wider mercy. Billions of human souls will not be in hell.
I believe the following scripture speaks to different methods of winning people to the truth:

"And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." Jude 22-23
 

CS1

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"But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways." - James 1:6-8

Self-described agnostics are sometimes trying to express double-mindedness (ambivalence). Teenagers and the like often go through weird stages that end up reinforcing the good in them and aligning their faith in beneficial ways. "Unstable" is a fitting word in those cases. Surely, more important than the words a youth uses for shock value is what is written on their heart (the actual thing they are judged by). We should see this as weak faith as opposed to a lack of faith. Instead of showing contempt for these people we should encourage positive growth.

"Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him." - Romans 14:1-3
You are describing a teenager's immaturity, not cognitive accountability. Doubt is a battle all will fight as Christians. Doing so doesn't mean they are agnostic. In addition, the context of what is an agnostic is not what we want to make it to be to justify our unwillingness to action our "faith" because I have not had my intellect groomed enough to agree there is a God.

The word of God is clear. those who come to God Must believe that He is, and a reward of those who seek Him diligently.

the child is just that a child. God holds the parent responsible for not teaching them about God. it is hard for agnostics to teach children about God is they are wavering in faith.
 

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Why would babies go to hell if Jesus said you have to be like one to enter heaven?
I would like to see that Scripture verse. I do recall ones about being as a child, but a baby? :unsure::oops:
 

Blik

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Thankfully we can know for sure. The word is clear, a person who rejects Jesus is destined for hell.

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Babies have not rejected Jesus.

What about people in cultures that have not heard the word?
 

CS1

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Babies have not rejected Jesus.

What about people in cultures that have not heard the word?
we are to leave them unto the Lord.
 

Wansvic

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Babies have not rejected Jesus.

What about people in cultures that have not heard the word?
I agree that babies do not have the ability to reject Jesus. I have often wondered if aborted babies or babies who have died before coming of age will have an opportunity to accept or reject Jesus in the Millennial reign. Nothing in scripture that I am aware of, just something I ponder on occasion.

As to other cultures, we serve a just God and can believe everything stated in His word. It says the gospel will be preached to all nations. This speaks to the truth that all will be given the opportunity to choose Jesus as Savior.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." Matt. 24:14
 
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You are describing a teenager's immaturity, not cognitive accountability.
Teenagers aren't cognitively accountable? Many churches disagree with that opinion as they allow confirmation in the early teens (or younger).

Doubt is a battle all will fight as Christians. Doing so doesn't mean they are agnostic.
I never said doubt would necessarily make Christians agnostic. But someone that calls themselves agnostic isn't necessarily not Christian.

The word of God is clear. those who come to God Must believe that He is, and a reward of those who seek Him diligently.
A person with mixed feelings (like an angst-filled teenager) does believe - but may also have opposing beliefs at the same time. How does anyone accurately categorise someone with mixed feelings without fully knowing their heart as Christ does?

the child is just that a child. God holds the parent responsible for not teaching them about God. it is hard for agnostics to teach children about God is they are wavering in faith.
My concern is more for the angsty teenager bit and the best approach to bringing a rebellious spirit fully back into the love of Christ. Or a young adult. Or any troubled person of faith. Telling someone with mixed feelings that they are going to hell (without true certainty of that statement) seems like the wrong approach. The intention is correct. It just feels like the wrong approach to me. Especially if someone has lost a child (at any age) that had trouble in their faith. How ghastly to have someone preach that their child is bound to hell (when that statement is not a proven Biblical truth). God will be the judge of that.