The Invention of Homosexuality

[EnglishChick]

Oh wow! Now God is allowing people to starve on purpose. You're getting worse and worse. Now you're agreeing with Darwins "Survival of the Fittest" dogma. So abortion is God's way of regulating the population. smh No, you're just utterly wrong. Totally against what the Bible teaches. And it wouldn't matter what proof anyone could show you, you're determined that God gave you knowledge He gave no one else. It's simply and utterly wrong. On every level, you're wrong.

medicine is witchcraft? Maybe but Jesus blood does cover that sin and we are no longer in condemnation. However I do agree that medicine can have undesirable side effects so I kind of agree with you about the effect it can have on society

 

[Lanolin]

Homosexuality has been and remains to be a topic of strong opinion. One of the reasons many object to God being loving and merciful is, why would He judge people for being homosexual when they were born that way? Those who defend God’s character suggest homosexuality is a choice. That is the only way that they can justify it. However, it is clear that some dudes are just born feminine. They don’t act the same or think the same as those born masculine and vice versa for women. So, did He in fact create homosexuality? I asked Him. This is how He explained it to me.

All creation is balanced, or created to be balanced. When there is imbalance, the scales tip and something gets triggered to bring it back. Populations are controlled by food in general. There is natural thinning of the herds. Top predator populations are controlled by hormones. Alphas procreate. Females determine which suitors get to pass on their genes. When human populations increase too rapidly for an area the scales tip. First food shortages may cause the group to divide in search for greener pastures. Too many alphas may cause battles to force natural selection. When neither happens then stress and poor nutrition cause testosterone levels to drop in populations. This causes females to find less suitable men to pass on their genes, creating less birth to death ratio. Since humans glorify sex and celebrate it and allow it to define them, it becomes problematic. Rather than a dude following instincts and being celibate, he adopts the taught programming that all people will be unfulfilled if they don’t find the love of their life. God invented sex but He didn’t invent sexuality, how one defines their expression of hormonal urges. Sex is the procreative mechanism designed to perpetuate humanity so strong healthy populations survive while weak ones thin. It’s a mercy. It’s balance. When He sent Israel on military campaigns to destroy populations, it was to maintain balance. Who knows what might have happened if He didn’t? He does. Anyways, the point is this. Sexuality is psychological. It is how one formulates input, emotions and programming to compute a rationale regardless of logic. He did design a system that causes some men to be less manly and some women to be less feminine. It was man however that interpreted that input incorrectly. What?! Sex wasn’t designed to define us and make us whole? Nope. It’s not some sacred gift we give to another, making us one with them? Not exactly. Eliminate the programming from your thoughts, all of it. Allow He who designed us renew your mind. Don’t even listen to me. Listen to Him who told me.

interesting.

I did think it was something to do with population and food scarity as in some areas the ratio of males to females is very skewed. sodom and gomorrah and many cities are like this...in some cities there are too many men and they cant find women. while others there are too many women because half the population has died because of wars etc. on some remote islands like in samoa, they train up men do be women eg fa a fine, because of lack of women to do essential tasks like housework and looking after family.

in schools that are single sex schools males form friendships with males and females with females and if they cant control themselves it will eventually become sexual. same sex realtionships are rife in schools like that.

but it isnt that women are looking to pass on genes and if they cant find anyone suitable they just go with some random man, any man. eg what happened after sodom, Lots own daughters slept with him. both of them. and had children.

 

[Lanolin]

i dont know about children decalring thesmelves gay or straight before puberty, what I do know is that adults can MOLEST children before puberty.

 

[EnglishChick]

i dont know about children decalring thesmelves gay or straight before puberty, what I do know is that adults can MOLEST children before puberty.

Yes I think paedophilia is a separate issue though

 

[Lanolin]

Maybe there was something in the water in sodom and gomorrah, or the slime pits they had there affected them.
who knows. God knows!

 

[Ahwatukee]

Why don't we listen to what God says on the matter in Romans Chapter 1?

I don't think you'll find "choice" had anything to do with it. It's all the sovereign will of God.

Hello OrphanedRepublican,

Actually, the verse says that "God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." So, God is not forcing those desires upon them, but is allowing them to do the evil desires of their hearts. It's not God's will that they do this. He's just stepping out of the way and allowing them to do the things that ought not be done.

 

[mustaphadrink]

Although I don't think it makes a difference of you born that way or not . Some people are alcoholics . They have a tendency to react to alcohol in an abnormal way. some people are like that with food

But Bible says drunkenness is a sin. So am alcoholic may have an illness but they can choose sobriety. It is hard. So hard. But it happens. So if someone is gay they have choice to commit homosexuality or not

What has being happy got to do with being homosexual?

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

Hello OrphanedRepublican,

Actually, the verse says that "God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." So, God is not forcing those desires upon them, but is allowing them to do the evil desires of their hearts. It's not God's will that they do this. He's just stepping out of the way and allowing them to do the things that ought not be done.

Hmm, I follow the logic and that is, "giving them over" knowing what the result will be is the same as will. He doesn't give everyone over because if he did, he couldn't perform his covenant. His will is definitely to perform his covenant despite our evil desires of our hearts.

So, then the question becomes, since all are evil, which do you "give over" and which do you save? Sounds like sovereign will of God stuff to me.

 

[OrphanedRepublican]

I see someone who thinks the verses mean something that they do not...

Perhaps or perhaps I see the same in someone "chiming in" without edifying.

 

[kaylagrl]

Perhaps or perhaps I see the same in someone "chiming in" without edifying.

Sigh, land sakes I'm getting sick of the mystical, magical, unicorn, seeing thru mists messages I've been getting here lately. Lest I sound like Foghorn Leghorn, " If you have somethin' to say spit it out sunshine. Quit blowin' at the hide and get to the fur"!! smh

 

[Platosgal]

I know ALOT about that world and I know Men and Women who have been set free from it
Basically...if you dont struggle with it
LEAVE the subject ALONE
Unless It Is In The Church
Then the bible is clear to have Nothing to do with it..( America is sugffering because of acceptance of Gay Clergy, Gay agendas and Fornication in general)
If an adult non christian is questioning you about "it"
Tell them to read the bible and figure it out
If A teen or kid questions you
Be gentle and kind and direct them to a Recovered Gay Person...but stay out if it if you dont know or struggle with it
It is the world's problem

 

[ankagirl]

Homosexuality has been and remains to be a topic of strong opinion. One of the reasons many object to God being loving and merciful is, why would He judge people for being homosexual when they were born that way? Those who defend God’s character suggest homosexuality is a choice. That is the only way that they can justify it. However, it is clear that some dudes are just born feminine. They don’t act the same or think the same as those born masculine and vice versa for women. So, did He in fact create homosexuality? I asked Him. This is how He explained it to me.

All creation is balanced, or created to be balanced. When there is imbalance, the scales tip and something gets triggered to bring it back. Populations are controlled by food in general. There is natural thinning of the herds. Top predator populations are controlled by hormones. Alphas procreate. Females determine which suitors get to pass on their genes. When human populations increase too rapidly for an area the scales tip. First food shortages may cause the group to divide in search for greener pastures. Too many alphas may cause battles to force natural selection. When neither happens then stress and poor nutrition cause testosterone levels to drop in populations. This causes females to find less suitable men to pass on their genes, creating less birth to death ratio. Since humans glorify sex and celebrate it and allow it to define them, it becomes problematic. Rather than a dude following instincts and being celibate, he adopts the taught programming that all people will be unfulfilled if they don’t find the love of their life. God invented sex but He didn’t invent sexuality, how one defines their expression of hormonal urges. Sex is the procreative mechanism designed to perpetuate humanity so strong healthy populations survive while weak ones thin. It’s a mercy. It’s balance. When He sent Israel on military campaigns to destroy populations, it was to maintain balance. Who knows what might have happened if He didn’t? He does. Anyways, the point is this. Sexuality is psychological. It is how one formulates input, emotions and programming to compute a rationale regardless of logic. He did design a system that causes some men to be less manly and some women to be less feminine. It was man however that interpreted that input incorrectly. What?! Sex wasn’t designed to define us and make us whole? Nope. It’s not some sacred gift we give to another, making us one with them? Not exactly. Eliminate the programming from your thoughts, all of it. Allow He who designed us renew your mind. Don’t even listen to me. Listen to Him who told me.

Leviticus 20:13 says ‘If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
A lot of people hate that this verse is in the bible because they don’t like to hear it. But you can’t deny it. It’s there!
In Romans 1:26-27, the Bible says ‘For this cause God gave them up to VILE affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their ERROR which was meet.
Here, the Bible calls homosexuality “vile affections” and “against nature”. God created us to long for intimacy with the opposite sex. Being gay or lesbian is a sin, and it is destroying the nations today.

 

[oldman]

Leviticus 20:13 says ‘If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
A lot of people hate that this verse is in the bible because they don’t like to hear it. But you can’t deny it. It’s there!
In Romans 1:26-27, the Bible says ‘For this cause God gave them up to VILE affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their ERROR which was meet.
Here, the Bible calls homosexuality “vile affections” and “against nature”. God created us to long for intimacy with the opposite sex. Being gay or lesbian is a sin, and it is destroying the nations today.

A key word in that verse is lust. But the world calls such 'love'.

 

[ankagirl]

A key word in that verse is lust. But the world calls such 'love'.

Very true!

 

[Hungry]

Leviticus 20:13 says ‘If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
A lot of people hate that this verse is in the bible because they don’t like to hear it. But you can’t deny it. It’s there!
In Romans 1:26-27, the Bible says ‘For this cause God gave them up to VILE affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is AGAINST nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is UNSEEMLY, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their ERROR which was meet.
Here, the Bible calls homosexuality “vile affections” and “against nature”. God created us to long for intimacy with the opposite sex. Being gay or lesbian is a sin, and it is destroying the nations today.

I absolutely agree homosexual relations are sinful and a clear abomination to God’s natural law. That isn’t the question. I understand that those apart from God are enslaved by the flesh and answer to its lustful desires be them gluttony, greed, alcoholism and every unholy sexual act. What was originally stated was how the body develops these unclean urges. Some respondents stated we are all born identically the same, and that we are not drawn to any sin based on our hardwiring and that everyone is equally susceptible to being homosexually tempted. That it’s a heads or tails choice we all make. Others stated that homosexuality was created by God to punish those who do not follow Him. All I suggested was that some people are naturally born less driven to procreate and that this was by God’s design. Then society through its propaganda takes these candidates less destined for fatherhood and warps them into thinking that unless they find some significant other and become sexually active they will never be happy. Then those who oppose God’s spoken Law and choose the flesh, God hands over to their abominable unnatural desires. This suggestion was not only rejected by all (but two) emphatically, but deemed me a heretical false prophet because I declared God revealed it to me in prayer.

Now you’re up to speed.

 

[Hungry]

Darwin also realized that he was a fraud (or had a fraudulent theory). He himself presented the arguments which refute his theory (at the end of his book On the Origin of Species). Of course this is totally off-topic. Why did homosexuals come up with the term "gay" when there is nothing gay about sexual perversion?

I’m pretty sure it was the homosexuals who coined the term to convince people they were happy. Also to encourage straight people to stop calling them queer.

 

[Hungry]

Hmm, I follow the logic and that is, "giving them over" knowing what the result will be is the same as will. He doesn't give everyone over because if he did, he couldn't perform his covenant. His will is definitely to perform his covenant despite our evil desires of our hearts.

So, then the question becomes, since all are evil, which do you "give over" and which do you save? Sounds like sovereign will of God stuff to me.

What covenant is God incapable to perform?

 

[SophieT]

Hello OrphanedRepublican,

Actually, the verse says that "God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." So, God is not forcing those desires upon them, but is allowing them to do the evil desires of their hearts. It's not God's will that they do this. He's just stepping out of the way and allowing them to do the things that ought not be done.

exactly. when people leave out key phrases or misinterpret, they create new doctrines and unsound teachings

 

[SophieT]

Sigh, land sakes I'm getting sick of the mystical, magical, unicorn, seeing thru mists messages I've been getting here lately. Lest I sound like Foghorn Leghorn, " If you have somethin' to say spit it out sunshine. Quit blowin' at the hide and get to the fur"!! smh

spot on. I've noticed the same thing. that and whiney people who speak two different things at the same time and then whine and cry about how mean you are because you pointed it out. and the people who coddle that behavior.

what are these people reading or being taught?

 

[SophieT]

Hmm, I follow the logic and that is, "giving them over" knowing what the result will be is the same as will. He doesn't give everyone over because if he did, he couldn't perform his covenant. His will is definitely to perform his covenant despite our evil desires of our hearts.

So, then the question becomes, since all are evil, which do you "give over" and which do you save? Sounds like sovereign will of God stuff to me.

you are not making any sense

the Bible speaks plainly and it is more than clear that absolutely nowhere does it state God created the desire for sin in the hearts of those who are homosexual or any other sin

you realize that about amounts to blasphemy? accusing God of contributing to the sin of fallen mankind?

there is no question. that is just you pulling God down to your level. but that just works in your own mind. it does not describe the holiness of God or what Romans actually states

Hmm, I follow the logic

interesting considering you appear to be totally illogical.

you are really lost in a supermarket dude