Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??

[Nehemiah6]

What does God's word say about women pastors?

They are not to ever be appointed as pastors. Totally excluded.

 

[Evmur]

And the AOG has lead the way!

Women Pastors.
Speaking in tongues.
Teaching a 2nd blessing.
Insisting on water baptisms.
Physical healings are demanded.
Miracles are expected.
God wants you to be rich.

And.....your responce about ignoring the Word of God has nothing to do with the thread of Women not being pastors according to the WORD OF GOD!

Now we talking about bible church, if your church is not doing miraculous stuff with tongues and interpretation and prophecy your church is not bible.

You can make up all kind of fancy doctrines and excuses for not doing these things but you are not bible.

The way you appoint your leaders is not bible and the way you minister and function is not bible ... yet you are telling everybody else that they are not bible.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There is no Scripture conflating "pastor" with "elder".

Elders are called "shepherds" and "pastor" is the translation for "poimen" (which means shepherd). So you are totally off base in this matter. Pastor/elder/bishops are the shepherds and overseers of the flocks of local churches.

1 PETER 5: THE DUTIES AND PROPER ATTITUDE OF PASTOR/ELDER/BISHOPS
1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

Actual shepherds feed their flocks and also take oversight of them (watch over them). This analogy applies in churches. Hence the Chief Shepherd (Christ) will hold the pastors accountable for failing to do both these duties (which is more common than not).

 

[Dino246]

Elders are called "shepherds" and "pastor" is the translation for "poimen" (which means shepherd). So you are totally off base in this matter. Pastor/elder/bishops are the shepherds and overseers of the flocks of local churches.

1 PETER 5: THE DUTIES AND PROPER ATTITUDE OF PASTOR/ELDER/BISHOPS
1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.

Actual shepherds feed their flocks and also take oversight of them (watch over them). This analogy applies in churches. Hence the Chief Shepherd (Christ) will hold the pastors accountable for failing to do both these duties (which is more common than not).

"Totally off base"? Hardly. Rather, holding the complementarian feet to the fire of Scripture.

 

[CS1]

And the AOG has lead the way!

Women Pastors.
Speaking in tongues.
Teaching a 2nd blessing.
Insisting on water baptisms.
Physical healings are demanded.
Miracles are expected.
God wants you to be rich.

And.....your responce about ignoring the Word of God has nothing to do with the thread of Women not being pastors according to the WORD OF GOD!

LOL You are wrong

 

[CS1]

I can only tell you what the Bible says. The Bible IS 100% CORRECT! The Bible says in 1 Timothy 3:1-2...........
"This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach"

Do YOU think that is what GOD SAID???? Do YOU think I said that or do you think that God called me and asked me what I thought????

What GOD SAID is 100% CORRECT!!!!

All I can respond to your question is.......I believe and accept what GOD SAID!

Not that you need to know and not that it matters one little bit, but I attend a Southern Baptist Church. That church has a WOMAN song leader, a WOMAN treasurer, a several WOMAN Bible study teachers but NO ORDAINED WOMEN as Pastors or DEACONS.

And on top of that, because that church has had about 50 years old solid BIBLE preaching, not one single WOMAN would accept the office of Pastor or Deacon because they know what the Word of God actually says!

I was not speaking to you I was asking a question to someone else But I enjoy your comments .

NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.

many here just spew false narrative.

 

[CS1]

Well, i cant find in the bible a hint ore any proof that woman pastors are biblical.
In this i am 100% shure. Because the bible dont teach it.

please show me where it says "women can't be pastors. You lambast about pentecostal having no doctrine yet you can't even explain the very point you believe in.

 

[Aidan1]

So you can't actually admit that your standard is wrong? Sad.

There is no Scripture conflating "pastor" with "elder". Claiming that 1 Timothy 3 is about pastors is simply wrong. Further, the alleged restrictions on females being elders breaks down when you see that Phoebe was a deacon (Romans 16:1). Because of that, you must see that "husband of one wife" means "not a polygamist" rather than "not a female".

I have evering already said in this regard in a former post to Angela.
I know that the mayority today would support your view.
You cant change my understanding from the scripture and I cant change yours.
If you would study the use of eldest and bishop in the NT you would find out that they have the same dutys and responsibilitys

 

[Aidan1]

So you can't actually admit that your standard is wrong? Sad.

There is no Scripture conflating "pastor" with "elder". Claiming that 1 Timothy 3 is about pastors is simply wrong. Further, the alleged restrictions on females being elders breaks down when you see that Phoebe was a deacon (Romans 16:1). Because of that, you must see that "husband of one wife" means "not a polygamist" rather than "not a female".

You forgot one option: ," not remarried, while his devorced wife is alive"

 

[Aidan1]

please show me where it says "women can't be pastors. You lambast about pentecostal having no doctrine yet you can't even explain the very point you believe in.

If you cant read the several repeatet biblical Text, i cant help you.
It is useless to show you scripture, but you ignore the text everytime and blameing me not to show you the text.
Even the fact that nowwhere the biblical Text suggests ore says clear that woman can become Pastor/eldest.

 

[Aidan1]

Apart from the Brethren I do not know any Evangelical church which has leaders who are appointed according to the biblical way. ... so why are the kettles calling the pots black?

What has this to do with my post?

 

[Evmur]

What has this to do with my post?

Plenty

You cannot criticize other for not being scriptural in appointing ministers if you yourself [or your denomination] do not appoint ministers according the scriptures.

 

[Aidan1]

Plenty

You cannot criticize other for not being scriptural in appointing ministers if you yourself [or your denomination] do not appoint ministers according the scriptures.

I do not critisise, i gave answer to the OP question.
I am not in the position to apoint Ministers.
I am no eldest ore leader of any church.
But I can tell you what the bible says in this OP question. And I already did.

I am belong to non denomination, because in heaven we will also have non. ( in the church i am in my place i dont agree with all their teachings. The Alternative would be to leave this church and be without church.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC???????

I guess that means something to YOU but not to me so it was a waste of your time.


What if a woman desires the office of a Bishop??????? .............
So what!!!!!! If God says NO then what does it matter what anyone wants??? Talk about "Ignorant" !!!


Then you posted this.........
"Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:"
here the term "HELPERS" is the Greek word, G4904 συνεργός sunergos (sïn-er-ğos') adj.
a co-laborer, i.e. coadjutor.
[from a presumed compound of G4862 and the base of G2041]
KJV: companion in labour, (fellow-)helper(-labourer, -worker), labourer together with, workfellow"

A coadjutor bishop (or bishop coadjutor) is a bishop in the Catholic religion.

If YOU would like to start a thread on the UNBIBLICAL Catholic teachings, I would be glad to join in.

And YOU have the audacity to call other people ignorant???
WHERE in all of that doe we read that Priscilla and Aquila were ORDAINED PASTORS??????

Why don't you give up this silly back and forth......you are embarrassing yourself my friend.

First, GINOLJC, to all. this is an initialism for
Greeting
In
the
Name
Of
the
Lord
Jesus
the
Christ

the "t's" in the are not used... for there is no more "cross".... T ...... (smile).

second, definitions are definitions rather or not if Catholic use them or not, a "BISHOP" is in the Bible, and "Helper" identify the Bishop as in Roman 16:3. so why start a tread on Catholic religion when you cannot get the one you're in now, RIGHT? as the scriptures states, Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:4 "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

then you said, "And YOU have the audacity to call other people ignorant???
WHERE in all of that doe we read that Priscilla and Aquila were ORDAINED PASTORS??????". did you not READ

Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:" THE BIBLE JUST TOLD YOU..... duh? see the Holy Ghost by his apostle said, "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren". THIS IS MY GOAL.

and as for the quote, you made "you are embarrassing yourself my friend". "silly back and forth?" are you kidding me? ... are yourself.....
I rather embarrass myself, instead of being ashame of CHRIST. LISTEN,

1 Corinthians 4:9 "For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."
1 Corinthians 4:10 "We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised."
1 Corinthians 4:11 "Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;"
1 Corinthians 4:12 "And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:"
1 Corinthians 4:13 "Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
1 Corinthians 4:14 "I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."

I rather be a "FOOL" for Christ, than for men, nor for the wisdom of this world. in God I have hope, but men.... nothing.

so lastly, what I posted is Irrefragable... thought so.

PICJAG,
101G


and if you care to know what "PICJAG" means? as the apostle said above in verse 12, "being reviled, we bless". PICJAG means,
Peace
In
Christ
Jesus
the
Almight
God

being reviled, ............. we bless with the "PEACE" of the Lord Jesus the Christ, the Almighty God.

 

[CS1]

If you cant read the several repeatet biblical Text, i cant help you.
It is useless to show you scripture, but you ignore the text everytime and blameing me not to show you the text.
Even the fact that nowwhere the biblical Text suggests ore says clear that woman can become Pastor/eldest.

AGAIN if you can't explain it then maybe you really don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Magenta]

First, GINOLJC, to all. this is an initialism for
Greeting
In
the
Name
Of
the
Lord
Jesus
the
Christ

the "t's" in the are not used... for there is no more "cross".... T ...... (smile).

second, definitions are definitions rather or not if Catholic use them or not, a "BISHOP" is in the Bible, and "Helper" identify the Bishop as in Roman 16:3. so why start a tread on Catholic religion when you cannot get the one you're in now, RIGHT? as the scriptures states, Matthew 7:3 "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:4 "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?" Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

then you said, "And YOU have the audacity to call other people ignorant???
WHERE in all of that doe we read that Priscilla and Aquila were ORDAINED PASTORS??????". did you not READ

Romans 16:3 "Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:" THE BIBLE JUST TOLD YOU..... duh? see the Holy Ghost by his apostle said, "Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren". THIS IS MY GOAL.

and as for the quote, you made "you are embarrassing yourself my friend". "silly back and forth?" are you kidding me? ... are yourself.....
I rather embarrass myself, instead of being ashame of CHRIST. LISTEN,

1 Corinthians 4:9 "For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."
1 Corinthians 4:10 "We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised."
1 Corinthians 4:11 "Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;"
1 Corinthians 4:12 "And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:"
1 Corinthians 4:13 "Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day."
1 Corinthians 4:14 "I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you."

I rather be a "FOOL" for Christ, than for men, nor for the wisdom of this world. in God I have hope, but men.... nothing.

so lastly, what I posted is Irrefragable... thought so.

PICJAG,
101G


and if you care to know what "PICJAG" means? as the apostle said above in verse 12, "being reviled, we bless". PICJAG means,
Peace
In
Christ
Jesus
the
Almight
God

being reviled, ............. we bless with the "PEACE" of the Lord Jesus the Christ, the Almighty God.

Thank you for explaining the meaning of the initials you use in your posts

I also learned a new word today! Irrefragable Thanks again!

 

[Major]

I was not speaking to you I was asking a question to someone else But I enjoy your comments .

NOw yes of course the bible is 100% Correct but is your application? I asked where does it say " women can't be pastors ". The truth is the bible has no language that stated that. it is seen in the context of Qaulification for a Bishop which is like a Pastor. That was what I was hoping one of you would say, But you or none of you self-proclaimed Theologians did.

many here just spew false narrative.

MY apologies.

The Bible does not say in the specific words....."Women can not be Pastors".

In the qualifications to be a Pastors.....Paul said "that if a MAN desires to be a Bishop HE must be........."!

To me, that is self explanatory and the actual words that a woman can not be a bishop is not needed.

Again.....please be CORRECT in your accusations......I have NEVER claimed to be a theologian any more than you have claimed to be a corrective advisor of what is said.

I am nothing but an old country boy from Alabama who did NOTHING but post the EXACT words from the Bible. Go back and see from the 1st post in this thread if I said I was anything other that what I just said.

I simply read the Bible. Believe it and accept it.

 

[Major]

LOL You are wrong

Well, that is your opinion and it may very well be. However there is a 50 % chance that I am not.

 

[Major]

Now we talking about bible church, if your church is not doing miraculous stuff with tongues and interpretation and prophecy your church is not bible.

You can make up all kind of fancy doctrines and excuses for not doing these things but you are not bible.

The way you appoint your leaders is not bible and the way you minister and function is not bible ... yet you are telling everybody else that they are not bible.

Why don't YOU start that thread but until then, why not focus on this one?????

Why not leave your AOG propaganda fro the thread you start.

 

[Major]

What does God's word say about women pastors?

Why don't YOU read the Bible my friend.

Start with 1st Timothy 3:1-5!!!!!