The Way of the Sword in the Old Testament; Has it Ended?
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Put on the whole armor of God.
Paul in Ephesians 6 Paul clarifies that the battle is not against flesh and blood, but a spiritual battle against the evil spiritual forces. Paul then goes on to elaborate on the armor but it is apparent at this point that we are NOT to put on a literal suit of armor and do earthly battle. Instead we are to put on the armor of the Word and Faith and of the Spirit and do spiritual battle.
There are several defensive pieces of armor and only one offensive piece of armor - the sword. The sword comes last. I interpret this as being the last piece to use. Once you have the rest of the armor on you can then, and only then, go on the offensive.
In revelation 19 Jesus had a sword come out of his mouth. Normally a warrior would draw his sword from his sheath, but Jesus has the sword come out of his mouth - this is strange and needs careful consideration.
Since Jesus's Kingdom is not of this world, Then perhaps this sword from his mouth represents spiritual power and victory more so than fleshly slaughter.
Paul in Ephesians 6 Paul clarifies that the battle is not against flesh and blood, but a spiritual battle against the evil spiritual forces. Paul then goes on to elaborate on the armor but it is apparent at this point that we are NOT to put on a literal suit of armor and do earthly battle. Instead we are to put on the armor of the Word and Faith and of the Spirit and do spiritual battle.
There are several defensive pieces of armor and only one offensive piece of armor - the sword. The sword comes last. I interpret this as being the last piece to use. Once you have the rest of the armor on you can then, and only then, go on the offensive.
In revelation 19 Jesus had a sword come out of his mouth. Normally a warrior would draw his sword from his sheath, but Jesus has the sword come out of his mouth - this is strange and needs careful consideration.
Since Jesus's Kingdom is not of this world, Then perhaps this sword from his mouth represents spiritual power and victory more so than fleshly slaughter.
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God has authority over the governments and uses them for his purposes.
But the promised land is no longer Israel. The promised land is the church. The church is where the promise land is now. The promised land is in the spiritual realm now.
God's people are those who are in Christ Jesus. The Jews are not God's people unless they call on the name of the Lord and that name is Jesus Christ.
And for this purpose God establishes governmental authorities. It is these governmental authorities that bare the sword and serves justice and order. I believe a christian does has freedom to serve the government as a police officer or soldier. But that christian does not bare arms in the name of Christ. He bares arms in the name of the municipality he is police officer in to keep peace and order. Or he bares arms in the name of the country he serves to keep peace and order.
We are not to bare arms and draw the sword in the name of Christ or in the name of God. Christ said, "No more of this!" We are not to bring forth christianity by the sword.
But the promised land is no longer Israel. The promised land is the church. The church is where the promise land is now. The promised land is in the spiritual realm now.
God's people are those who are in Christ Jesus. The Jews are not God's people unless they call on the name of the Lord and that name is Jesus Christ.
And for this purpose God establishes governmental authorities. It is these governmental authorities that bare the sword and serves justice and order. I believe a christian does has freedom to serve the government as a police officer or soldier. But that christian does not bare arms in the name of Christ. He bares arms in the name of the municipality he is police officer in to keep peace and order. Or he bares arms in the name of the country he serves to keep peace and order.
We are not to bare arms and draw the sword in the name of Christ or in the name of God. Christ said, "No more of this!" We are not to bring forth christianity by the sword.
The temple was a literal stone temple in the OT but became a spiritual temple in the NT with Jesus being the cornerstone. Jesus is not a literal cornerstone obviously, but a spiritual cornerstone.
And just like the temple the literal promised land has also moved into the spiritual realm. The promised land is now the church.
But many evangelicals want to revert back to a literal promised land in Israel and a literal stone temple in Jerusalem. And they want to combine the church with the American government to fight with literal swords for it.
And just like the temple the literal promised land has also moved into the spiritual realm. The promised land is now the church.
But many evangelicals want to revert back to a literal promised land in Israel and a literal stone temple in Jerusalem. And they want to combine the church with the American government to fight with literal swords for it.
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Not according to Deuteronomy 4:40. Also the end times will take place in this land of Jesus reigning in a new Kingdom.
Yes but God's chosen race still has God's hand on them.
Romans 11:1-2
New International Version
The Remnant of Israel
11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:
Agree to everything in this quote but the no more of this quote by Jesus. You seem to apply it out of context.
Yes but God's chosen race still has God's hand on them.
Romans 11:1-2
New International Version
The Remnant of Israel
11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel:
Agree to everything in this quote but the no more of this quote by Jesus. You seem to apply it out of context.
God did not reject Israel. But many of them rejected God and His Savior.
God shows no partiallity toward or against the Jews. This is false teaching to promote Catholism by another name. The Pope gave special attention to Israel and ordered for four crusades to obtain it.
Romans 10:11-13
11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[a] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Acts 10:34-35
34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
GOD SHOWS NO PARTIALITY
God shows no partiallity toward or against the Jews. This is false teaching to promote Catholism by another name. The Pope gave special attention to Israel and ordered for four crusades to obtain it.
Romans 10:11-13
11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[a] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Acts 10:34-35
34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
GOD SHOWS NO PARTIALITY
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Evangelical Christians have a high opinion not just of the Jewish state but of Jews as people. That Jewish voters are overwhelmingly liberal doesn’t seem to bother evangelicals, despite their own conservative politics. Yet Jews don’t return the favor: in one Pew survey, 42 percent of Jewish respondents expressed hostility to evangelicals and fundamentalists.
The reason that conservative Christians—opposed to abortion and gay marriage and critical of political liberalism—can feel kindly toward Jewish liberals and support Israel so fervently is rooted in theology. One finds among fundamentalist Protestants a doctrine called dispensationalism. The dispensationalist outlook, which began in early-nineteenth-century England,
https://www.city-journal.org/html/why-don’t-jews-christians-who-them-13068.html
The reason that conservative Christians—opposed to abortion and gay marriage and critical of political liberalism—can feel kindly toward Jewish liberals and support Israel so fervently is rooted in theology. One finds among fundamentalist Protestants a doctrine called dispensationalism. The dispensationalist outlook, which began in early-nineteenth-century England,
https://www.city-journal.org/html/why-don’t-jews-christians-who-them-13068.html
"And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh." - Revelation 19:21
The sword from the mouth in Rev 19 also slays people. Revelation is a vision though, and could definitely be interpreted as a metaphor for spiritual power and victory based on other passages:
"(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed." - Luke 2:35
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
On the other hand, we do see passages that speak of the sword in a seemingly physical way:
"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." - Romans 13:4
It could be meant as a combination of physical and spiritual, but certainly the "way of the sword" could be interpreted to be completely spiritual.
The sword from the mouth in Rev 19 also slays people. Revelation is a vision though, and could definitely be interpreted as a metaphor for spiritual power and victory based on other passages:
"(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed." - Luke 2:35
"And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
On the other hand, we do see passages that speak of the sword in a seemingly physical way:
"For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." - Romans 13:4
It could be meant as a combination of physical and spiritual, but certainly the "way of the sword" could be interpreted to be completely spiritual.
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Jesus is both Messiah to Israel and the Gentile nations.
As for remnants-
Romans 11
New International Version
The Remnant of Israel
11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
As for remnants-
Romans 11
New International Version
The Remnant of Israel
11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.” 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
God promised Abraham, the father of the Jews, that He would give to him and his descendants the land that currently makes up modern-day Israel (Genesis 15:18–21). God confirmed that promise to Abraham’s son Isaac and grandson Jacob, who was called “Israel” (Genesis 26:3; 28:13; 32:28). This promise has end times revelations.
Genesis 12:2-3
2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Genesis 12:2-3
2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
“Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”
Matthew 5:38-39
yes the whole nature of the testament changed from this the sword
“Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.”
Deuteronomy 25:12 KJV
“And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
Deuteronomy 19:21 KJV
To this
“Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.”
Matthew 5:7
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Luke 6:35-38
The two covenants are contrary because they are for different purposes the sword is upon sinners , they live and die by the sword but Gods children go the way of peace and love , mercy forgiveness the covenant has went from a sword to a plowshare from sinners doomed to die to born again children of God who will live after death
One way is life the other can only bring death a sword is not needed in righteousness it’s what violent men use to fight against other violent men a work of the world is the sword a work of
Man
“And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
Genesis 6:13
Gods way is before violence the law came after and the sword came from that state now we are being taken back to before the fall before sin so the sword belongs to the world
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.”
Matthew 5:38-39
yes the whole nature of the testament changed from this the sword
“Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.”
Deuteronomy 25:12 KJV
“And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
Deuteronomy 19:21 KJV
To this
“Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.”
Matthew 5:7
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
Luke 6:35-38
The two covenants are contrary because they are for different purposes the sword is upon sinners , they live and die by the sword but Gods children go the way of peace and love , mercy forgiveness the covenant has went from a sword to a plowshare from sinners doomed to die to born again children of God who will live after death
One way is life the other can only bring death a sword is not needed in righteousness it’s what violent men use to fight against other violent men a work of the world is the sword a work of
Man
“And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
Genesis 6:13
Gods way is before violence the law came after and the sword came from that state now we are being taken back to before the fall before sin so the sword belongs to the world
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It is based on faith. Those seven thousand had faith in God and thus did not worship Baal. those seven thousand were a remnant based on their faith.
So sure there is a remnant in every generation, but that remnant must have faith in God, which is Jesus Christ. For Christ brings grace.
But what you are suggesting is different. You are suggesting that the ethnic Jew is a remnant regardless of faith. I say this is wrong.
So sure there is a remnant in every generation, but that remnant must have faith in God, which is Jesus Christ. For Christ brings grace.
But what you are suggesting is different. You are suggesting that the ethnic Jew is a remnant regardless of faith. I say this is wrong.
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Compare these two verses.
Deuteronomy 4:40.
English Standard Version
Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the LORD your God is giving you for all time.”
Exodus 12:14
English Standard Version
“This day [Passover] shall be for you a memorial day, and you shall keep it as a feast to the LORD; throughout your generations, as a statute forever, you shall keep it as a feast.
The Passover is to be kept as a statute forever. However, Christians do not keep Passover. Or, do they? Actually, they do. Believing on Jesus Christ is how the statute of Passover is kept forever. And this faith comes from the Spirit that dwells in our hearts. Passover is kept spiritually, in our hearts.
Likewise the land is also no longer literal. The land is the church. You possess the land (you belong to the church) if you possess the Spirit and believe in your heart.
Deuteronomy 4:40.
English Standard Version
Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the LORD your God is giving you for all time.”
Exodus 12:14
English Standard Version
“This day [Passover] shall be for you a memorial day, and you shall keep it as a feast to the LORD; throughout your generations, as a statute forever, you shall keep it as a feast.
The Passover is to be kept as a statute forever. However, Christians do not keep Passover. Or, do they? Actually, they do. Believing on Jesus Christ is how the statute of Passover is kept forever. And this faith comes from the Spirit that dwells in our hearts. Passover is kept spiritually, in our hearts.
Likewise the land is also no longer literal. The land is the church. You possess the land (you belong to the church) if you possess the Spirit and believe in your heart.
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