How to be Born Again
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Yes you need a verse that says Noah built an Ark otherwise we've made it up . Thankfully we have one ( or two )
John 3:16 “ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Yes at least we have something to work with there . But the good news is not " Jesus" or 'Genesis to revelation " . This is what some are saying ..Just a generic statement.
Try Romans 6 read the whole chapter.
Here's one verse that backs up John 3:16 perfectly.
Roman 6
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Sounds to me like Jesus is the good news. There are many more scriptures that bears this out.
Romans 5
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Thats a bogus reason since TULIP is supported by scripture. Do you know what the acronym TULIP stands for ?
" Jesus is the good news " . Yes but what about Jesus and when ? His birth ? If you were there at his birth what about Jesus would you say was good news ? It certainly was bad news for the disciples when Jesus died. They were distraught at his death . They also didn't believe the resurrection either . So the resurrection was not good news for them until later. Imagine us today not seeing the death and resurrection as good news ?
I'm not questioning how a calvinist ' supports' his doctrines by scripture. A jehovah witness ' supports ' his doctrines with scripture . I said none of Calvinism s central doctrines are explicitly stated . Not one time does the bible SAY what the Calvinist teaches .
Tell an atheist " Jesus is good news " for what he might ask .
FreeGrace2 said:
You're not even able to engage anything I say. You haven't supported your beliefs and you haven't refuted mine.
I have proven that election is for service. I have many more verses too.
How many verses have you found that link election with salvation?
The issue is about election. But, yes, man is born in a hopeless situation naturally.
But so what? Everyone can receive the free gift of eternal life. By trusting in the work of Christ.
Are you aware that Titus 2:11 says that the grace of God brings salvation to all men (everyone). Do you believe that?
You're not even able to engage anything I say. You haven't supported your beliefs and you haven't refuted mine.
I have proven that election is for service. I have many more verses too.
How many verses have you found that link election with salvation?
I see no relevance with what you posted in response to what I posted.
The issue is about election. But, yes, man is born in a hopeless situation naturally.
But so what? Everyone can receive the free gift of eternal life. By trusting in the work of Christ.
Are you aware that Titus 2:11 says that the grace of God brings salvation to all men (everyone). Do you believe that?
OK, I just gave verses that refutes the calvinist claims.
And you don't even attempt to prove me wrong. What's up with that?
OK, you claim all of tulip is biblical.
Then quote a verse for EACH point. Like I did which refutes each point.
OK, if tulip is supported by Scripture, please quote at least one verse for each point.
I don't think you can. In fact, I know you can't.
Your estimation is right . The only thing to say is on the P . They teach it as eternal security ( which i do hold to ) but its for all practical purposes its works salvation. You have to look constantly to your works in order to keep on trying to guess if your really one of the elect all along. It leads to fear and its essentially ' Lordship salvation ' .
Verse 8: “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.” And that’s the truth. There is no way that an unsaved man in this dispensation can please God. The flesh of an unsaved man operates on the basis of its senses; what it can see, touch, smell, hear, and feel. That is walking by sight. The Scriptures say, “without faith it is impossible to please him [God]” (Heb. 11:6). The Lord is pleased with praise and thanksgiving (Psa. 69:30–31), but the songs of the flesh deal with sex or romance or beauty, or drinking or men or women, or even nonsense. If a man wants to please God in the New Testament, then he will receive Christ and follow Scripture (1Thess. 4:1) and keep himself free to fight the battle to which God has called him (2 Tim. 2:4). Now, an unsaved man can get God’s attention with his prayers, like Cornelius did (Acts 10). God will often show mercy on an unsaved fellow who cries out to Him. After all, God “maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matt. 5:45). That’s God’s mercy to unsaved people. But when it comes to pleasing God, a man has to exercise faith in what God told him to do (Heb. 11:6). In this dispensation, God told men to believe on Jesus Christ for salvation (John 6:29). When that happens, then the man is no longer “in the flesh.” He is now “in the Spirit” (Rom. 8:9). With the new man living inside of him, the Christian can now please God by “making melody in your heart to the Lord” (Eph. 5:19). He now has the ability to follow Scripture in a way that will please God and to fight the good fight for Jesus Christ. Only in Christ can a man fulfill the purpose for which he was created (Rev. 4:11).