Hell's Population Clock

[Webers.Home]

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FAQ: What if Adam had first eaten some fruit from the tree of life prior to
trying the forbidden fruit?

A: The tree of life doesn't work like a vaccine, rather, it's a remedy
portrayed in the Bible as a treatment for whatever ails you. (Rev 22:2)

In other words; under normal circumstances Adam had no use for the tree of
life at first because he was already immortal. Adam was created impervious
to death; an advantage he lost by tampering with the forbidden fruit when
he was instructed not to.

• Gen 2:16-17 . . And the Lord God commanded the man: You are free to
eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.

Well; Adam didn't drop dead to the floor when he ate the forbidden fruit. In
point of fact he continued to live 800 more years beyond the birth of his son
Seth. (Gen 5:4)

So the death that Adam underwent due to tasting the forbidden fruit began
with his loss of immortality, i.e. Adam's body became infected with mortality
which, if left untreated, is 100% fatal. Mortality is a living death that
gradually broke Adam down to the point where his body could no longer
keep going.

The tree of life wouldn't prevent Adam from contracting mortality, but the
tree would've cured it and restored him to perfect health, but alas he wasn't
permitted to take advantage of it.

Pop Clock Update: 2,215 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 129,756,915
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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[Robo36]

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FAQ: What if Adam had first eaten some fruit from the tree of life prior to
trying the forbidden fruit?

A: The tree of life doesn't work like a vaccine, rather, it's a remedy
portrayed in the Bible as a treatment for whatever ails you. (Rev 22:2)

In other words; under normal circumstances Adam had no use for the tree of
life at first because he was already immortal. Adam was created impervious
to death; an advantage he lost by tampering with the forbidden fruit when
he was instructed not to.

• Gen 2:16-17 . . And the Lord God commanded the man: You are free to
eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.

Well; Adam didn't drop dead to the floor when he ate the forbidden fruit. In
point of fact he continued to live 800 more years beyond the birth of his son
Seth. (Gen 5:4)

So the death that Adam underwent due to tasting the forbidden fruit began
with his loss of immortality, i.e. Adam's body became infected with mortality
which, if left untreated, is 100% fatal. Mortality is a living death that
gradually broke Adam down to the point where his body could no longer
keep going.

The tree of life wouldn't prevent Adam from contracting mortality, but the
tree would've cured it and restored him to perfect health, but alas he wasn't
permitted to take advantage of it.

Pop Clock Update: 2,215 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 129,756,915
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_

Have you discovered the vaccine yet for our sin disease? Please report!

 

[ForestGreenCook]

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According to Jesus Christ's testimony as an expert witness in all matters
pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been
making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

†. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

†. Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

†. Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but
indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to,
only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with
me while I flesh this out.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the resident population of the United
States, projected to 12/10/14 at 03:35 pm New York time, was
approximately 319,408,600 with a death rate of approximately one every 12
seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all
ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths
are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,089 of
the current daily death rate of 7,200 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the
"many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to
51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,595 American adults transferring to
perdition every day: which translates to roughly 108 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact
percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think:
by the time CBS completes its half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones
minimum of 54 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the
netherworld.

Using the ratio of 2,595 condemned souls per 319,408,600 population:
computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently
estimated global population of 7,210,485,300 people, would suggest
something like 58,581 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld
every 24 hours; which translates to 2,441 souls every sixty minutes on the
clock.

That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity
in roughly 21 hours and 13 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily
number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this
morning, then by 03:13 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of
death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9%
higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths
spiking to 12.2% higher; and believe me folks, hell never closes; no, not at
all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global
warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, high school shootings,
terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil
pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices,
student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Federal debt, factory recalls,
overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain,
road rage, conscious decoupling, ISIS, gay marriage, the crisis in Ukraine,
Obamacare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, Oprah's millions, and
Letterman's retirement.

If the Lord is a credible witness; then it's apparent that souls never stop
cascading into the pits of hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable
millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken
processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in
the Box, Burger King, In-n-Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen,
Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and
wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering, the butchering, the
packaging, and the shipping never stop.

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I am chiming in on this thread a little late, but would like to inject my understanding of what I think that the scriptures evidence.

I do not think the scriptures tells us exactly how many are going to hell, and to heaven, but they do affirm that those that will inhabit heaven will be counted as the sand in the seashore, and the stars in the sky, which are so many that they can not be counted..

I believe that the scriptures teach that the Kingdom of God is one of the names of the church that Christ set up when he was upon the earth, and has been reigning as King over his kingdom from that time until now.

I also believe the scriptures to teach, in Eze 10, about a wheel within a wheel, the larger outer wheel represents the invisible church, and the smaller wheel within, is representing the visible church.

The straight gate in Luke 13:24, and Matt 7:14 harmonize as representing the visible church, and the wide gate representing the invisible church that are preaching and teaching a false doctrine.

 

[Webers.Home]

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FAQ: Human sacrifices are not allowed in the covenant that Moses' people
agreed upon with God in the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and
Deuteronomy. Since Jesus was a Jew whose religion was governed by that
covenant, then how was it legal for him to die for the sins of the world?

A: The laws of God are not retroactive (Deut 5:2-4, Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13)
This is extremely important because Jesus was designated, and scheduled,
to die on a cross prior to God creating even a single atom for the current
cosmos. (1Pet 1:18-21 & Rev 13:8)

Pop Clock Update: 2,218 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 129,932,658
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.

 

[Lisamn]

If the Lord is a credible witness; then it's apparent that souls never stop
cascading into the pits of hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable
millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken
processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in
the Box, Burger King, In-n-Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen,
Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and
wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering, the butchering, the
packaging, and the shipping never stop.

I didn’t know that anyone was in hell or that the white throne judgement has already occurred...

 

[Webers.Home]

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The world death toll thus far due to the Coronavirus is in the neighborhood
of 2,280,990.

That represents approximately .0294% of the world's recent population of
7,740,955,811 people, which is not even one percent; in point of fact, a
good deal less than one percent.

In the future, Heaven will cause the world to turn on itself in an apparent
attempt to self-destruct with weapons, disease, famine, and wild animals
that will cause fully 25% to perish; i.e. one fourth. (Rev 6:7)

If perchance the world's population in that day is the same as now, then
1,935,238,953 people will lose their lives before the calamity is over; in
other words: 1.93 billion. That's something like 848 times the number of
world coronavirus deaths thus far.

Pop Clock Update: 2,248 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 131,690,088
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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[Webers.Home]

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• 1Pet 1:22a . . Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth
through the Spirit

The grammatical tense of the words "have purified" is past rather than
future. In other words, the souls of the Christians to whom Peter penned his
epistle were already purified before it arrived.

The Greek word for "purify" generally refers to making something clean
and/or sanitized; usually by washing. It doesn't refer to sinless perfection;
for example your pots and pans and dishes may be dented, scratched, and
chipped, but they're still suitable for their intended purpose just so long as
they're clean.

Jesus once told his men "Now you are clean through the word which I have
spoken unto you" (John 15:3). His word didn't make them sinless. In other
words: they retained their various dents, scratches, and chips, so to speak;
in point of fact, Peter went on from there to deny even knowing Jesus.

A number of the Old Testament's rituals served to cleanse the people of
contamination brought on them by their sins, but did nothing to make the
people sinless; not even the great day of atonement Yom Kippur. The people
went right on sinning as before just as soon as the ritual was over. So
purification and sinless perfection are two very different spiritual conditions.

This is a very important element of Christianity so it's worth taking the time to
understand.

Pop Clock Update: 2,252 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 131,924,412
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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[Funkus]

You are actually in error webers.home
if Jesus's word doesn't make you sinless then why should those purified be saved and others not?
they are both sinful. now here is what you need to know - your ideas are simply the legalism of the pharisees which Jesus condemned
if you were born in the time of Jesus would you have followed him or condemned him like they did?
i think you would have condemned him so you need to repent, you need to repent and stop this madness of this thread you have a veil over your mind and if no-one else has the balls to say it - then i will

 

[Webers.Home]

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if no-one else has the balls to say it

As an American citizen, my country's Constitution permits me to use as
much gutter language as I please. However, I'm not only governed by the
Constitution, but also by a power above that does not allow it.

• Col 3:8 . . Put off . . . filthy language from your lips.

The Greek word translated "filthy language" is aischrologia (ahee-skhrol-og
ee'-ah) and means vile conversation.

Webster's defines "vile" as (1) morally despicable or abhorrent, (2)
physically repulsive; viz: foul and/or odious, (3) of little worth or account;
viz: common, vulgar, (4) tending to degrade, demean, and/or denigrate, (5)
disgustingly and/or utterly bad; viz: obnoxious, contemptible, unacceptable,
disagreeable, and (6) base; viz: crude, churlish, and/or unrefined.

It would be nice if visitors to Christian web sites made an effort to curb their
tongue if for no other reason than courtesy for our religion's beliefs and
practices, and our personal sensibilities.
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[Funkus]

God is good, not just a little bit, but all good. he would never torture people like you say so actually i am helping you. i'm saying what others do not and i don't see the need to pussy foot around lol. all i ask is that you think about it. it may be futile but i might sow a seed of repentance in you that one day will come to fruition

 

[Webers.Home]

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• Rev 8:7 . . The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and
fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the
earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green
grass was burned up.

Although that event is depicted as something completed already, it's actually
yet future. The apostle John wrote of something he was shown; like
describing a movie.

The Greek word translated "grass" includes not only lawns and pastures, but
also crops; particularly cereals, i.e. those farmed primarily for their grain;
e.g. corn, wheat, oats, rye, and rice; et al.

Apparently their destruction isn't beyond recovery because grasses show up
again in a later calamity. (Rev 9:4)

The purpose seems to be the destruction of one whole year's worth of global
harvest. That could be very bad for 3rd world folk who live hand to mouth,
viz: those whose very survival depends upon regular yields.

The cost of grain will already be in a state of inflation prior to the global
destruction of the grasses (Rev 6:6). The calamity described in Rev 8:7 will
surely drive up the cost of food even higher; possibly to the point where
quite a few people around the world won't be able to get enough to eat as
often as they'd like.

One third of all trees are slated for destruction too; which no doubt will
affect not only those used for lumber, but also fruit trees, e.g. fig, orange,
apple, apricot, prune, peach, cherry, banana, and olives etc; along with a
number of varieties that produce nuts.

Pop Clock Update: 2,282 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 133,681,842
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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[Webers.Home]

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Righteousness and Justification are spoken of together in Rom 5:18 the
same as they are in Rom 3:21-24. So then, if perchance someone is
fortunate to obtain the righteousness, then they will automatically obtain the
justification that goes along with it.

FYI: Righteousness pertains to innocence, and Justification pertains to
acquittal.

For example: former US President Donald Trump was recently accused of
insurrection. His accusers in the Senate failed to convict him, i.e. the
majority voted for his innocence and consequently he was acquitted.

This is what God has done for some of us; except that He has declared us all
guilty rather than innocent (Rom 3:23). However; via our faith in Jesus'
blood as an adequate propitiation for our sins, God granted us a gratuitous
adjudication of innocence, and consequently an acquittal. It's all spelled out
in Rom 3:21-28.

The first prayer I prayed that made some sense contained the words below:

"God, I know I'm a sinner. I would like to take advantage of your son's
death"

My prayer wasn't much to brag about; but it was the smartest sixteen words
I'd ever spoken up to that time.

Pop Clock Update: 2,285 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 133,857,585
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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[Pilgrimshope]

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According to Jesus Christ's testimony as an expert witness in all matters
pertaining to the afterlife; most of the world's responsible souls haven't been
making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

†. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching,
and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there
few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait
gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

†. Matt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and
broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But
small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find
it.

†. Matt 22:14 . . For many are called, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as consisting of, or amounting to, a large but
indefinite number; while "few" is defined as consisting of, or amounting to,
only a small number; viz: relative to many then, few is the lesser. Bear with
me while I flesh this out.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the resident population of the United
States, projected to 12/10/14 at 03:35 pm New York time, was
approximately 319,408,600 with a death rate of approximately one every 12
seconds; which translates to an average of 7,200 American deaths of all
ages, races, and genders during just one 24-hour calendar day.

According to 2009 US Census data; roughly 27.3% of America's daily deaths
are under the age of 19, which would indicate that approximately 5,089 of
the current daily death rate of 7,200 per 24 hours are adults. Giving the
"many" the benefit of the doubt by limiting their maximum percentage to
51%, would indicate a minimum of 2,595 American adults transferring to
perdition every day: which translates to roughly 108 per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact
percentages to represent the quantities of "few" and "many". But just think:
by the time CBS completes its half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones
minimum of 54 Americans become new arrivals in the fiery sector of the
netherworld.

Using the ratio of 2,595 condemned souls per 319,408,600 population:
computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently
estimated global population of 7,210,485,300 people, would suggest
something like 58,581 new arrivals in the fiery sector of the netherworld
every 24 hours; which translates to 2,441 souls every sixty minutes on the
clock.

That rate would fill the 51,800 seats of the new Yankee Stadium to capacity
in roughly 21 hours and 13 minutes. In other words: if the world's daily
number of condemned souls started filing into the stadium at 06:00 am this
morning, then by 03:13 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full to capacity.

Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of
death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9%
higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths
spiking to 12.2% higher; and believe me folks, hell never closes; no, not at
all: it's open for business 24/7/365 nonstop and indifferent to global
warming, Wall Street crashes, massive layoffs, high school shootings,
terrorism, tsunamis, earthquakes, nuclear meltdowns, air, water, and soil
pollution, freeway pile-ups, brown-outs, threatened species, gasoline prices,
student debt, GMO, trade deficits, Federal debt, factory recalls,
overpopulation, desertification, genocides, revolutions, civil wars, acid rain,
road rage, conscious decoupling, ISIS, gay marriage, the crisis in Ukraine,
Obamacare, blood diamonds, fracking, twerking, Oprah's millions, and
Letterman's retirement.

If the Lord is a credible witness; then it's apparent that souls never stop
cascading into the pits of hell in an endless procession like the unbelievable
millions of poultry broilers passing annually through Tyson chicken
processing plants on their way to Wendy's, McDonalds, Carl's Junior, Jack in
the Box, Burger King, In-n-Out Burger, KFC, A&W, Arby's, Dairy Queen,
Taco Bell, et al; and to supermarkets and restaurants all over the USA and
wherever else Tyson vends its meats. The slaughtering, the butchering, the
packaging, and the shipping never stop.

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What about these

“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:9-10, 14-

 

[Webers.Home]

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What about these

The quantities represented by few and many are relative, just as minority
and majority are relative, and large and small are relative, as well as near
and far.

For example: according to the 2020 World Almanac and Book Of Facts, as of
July 2019 there was an estimated 2.5 billion people identified as Christians
among the 7.7 billion people on Earth at the time.

People identified as Christians represented approximately 32% of the world,
whereas people identified as non Christians represented approximately 68%.

According to the arithmetic: Christians were the minority, i.e. the few;
whereas non Christians were the majority, i.e. the many.

Carrying this forward:

• Rev 7:9 . . After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man
could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood
before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms
in their hands.

Regardless of the size of that great multitude, the opposite side of the coin is
greater. In other words: Rev 7:9's multitude is fewer in number than the
multitude depicted at Rev 20:11-15.
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[tribesman]

Most non-white people are non-christians and they are today dominating world population and have also high nativity rates. RCC is still, I guess, the largest religious body in the world, but Islam is catching up through birth rates and "conversions".

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Yes, Catholics are Christians.

 

[Webers.Home]

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Yes, Catholics are Christians.

I was baptized an infant into Roman Catholicism and anon enrolled in
catechism classes where I went on to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.

I was led to believe that my chances of going to Heaven were better than
ordinary people because I was a Catholic, but in point of fact, my chances
were worse.

Because God would be holding me responsible to comply with everything
Rome teaches and stands for: all the commandments, all the dogma, all the
rituals, all the traditions, all the Councils, all the Bulls, all the rites, all the
holy days of obligation, all the whole entire Catechism-- everything --and
that's why Catholics go to Hell just like everybody else because there's no
favoritism with God; and the rule of thumb is: the more somebody knows,
the more they are held accountable. (Luke 12:47-48)

Ironically, an illiterate aboriginal has a better chance of making to Heaven
than a Catholic; and the aboriginals that don't make it will be punished far
less severe than the Catholics that don't make it. As it turns out; my
affiliation with Rome wasn't something to be proud of; no, it was something
to keep me awake nights ridden with anxiety about my future.

Pop Clock Update: 2,287 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 133,974,747
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
_

 

[tourist]

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I was baptized an infant into Roman Catholicism and anon enrolled in
catechism classes where I went on to complete First Holy Communion and
Confirmation.

I was led to believe that my chances of going to Heaven were better than
ordinary people because I was a Catholic, but in point of fact, my chances
were worse.

Because God would be holding me responsible to comply with everything
Rome teaches and stands for: all the commandments, all the dogma, all the
rituals, all the traditions, all the Councils, all the Bulls, all the rites, all the
holy days of obligation, all the whole entire Catechism-- everything --and
that's why Catholics go to Hell just like everybody else because there's no
favoritism with God; and the rule of thumb is: the more somebody knows,
the more they are held accountable. (Luke 12:47-48)

Ironically, an illiterate aboriginal has a better chance of making to Heaven
than a Catholic; and the aboriginals that don't make it will be punished far
less severe than the Catholics that don't make it. As it turns out; my
affiliation with Rome wasn't something to be proud of; no, it was something
to keep me awake nights ridden with anxiety about my future.

Pop Clock Update: 2,287 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If
the figures in post No.1 are within reason, then something like 133,974,747
new arrivals have checked into the fiery sector of Hades since December 10,
2014.
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In the 2287 days since the Hell's population clock has been ticking, by your estimation, how many new arrivals have checked into heaven?

 

[Webers.Home]

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In the 2287 days since the Hell's population clock has been ticking, by your
estimation, how many new arrivals have checked into heaven?

I don't attempt Heaven's numbers; too complicated.
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[tourist]

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I don't attempt Heaven's numbers; too complicated.
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Seems like it is more complicated to even attempt to calculate how many new arrivals in Hell. I believe that it is best to leave these calculations to God in regards to salvation or damnation or where the departed now reside.