Not By Works
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He was “among” them - willing to associate with an illegal, severely persecuted sect where even something so seemingly innocuous as burying deceased loved ones could get you busted and sentenced to death.
He was likely a backslider who Paul recognized needed the most effective wake up call God can provide: turning one “over to Satan” which can only mean prayer requests for God to allow negative consequences for sin to come.
And again, the operative word is “might”. The text doesn’t say he “will” he saved in the day of the Lord, it says “might” be saved in that day - or possibly lost in that day.
He was likely a backslider who Paul recognized needed the most effective wake up call God can provide: turning one “over to Satan” which can only mean prayer requests for God to allow negative consequences for sin to come.
And again, the operative word is “might”. The text doesn’t say he “will” he saved in the day of the Lord, it says “might” be saved in that day - or possibly lost in that day.
When did I say I believe that?
God saved me before I did any work whatsoever.
God keeps me in spite of myself.
If our works had any part in our salvation, we would split hell wide open, because all of our works are at least in part tainted by sin. Christ sanctifies, makes acceptable our works, just as the sprinkling of blood sanctified the altar.
God saved me before I did any work whatsoever.
God keeps me in spite of myself.
If our works had any part in our salvation, we would split hell wide open, because all of our works are at least in part tainted by sin. Christ sanctifies, makes acceptable our works, just as the sprinkling of blood sanctified the altar.
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It does otherwise you would not have responded.
I did answer your question by posting Bible verses from Corinthians 3.
As believers we will have good works and bad works. Do you agree?
Neither will save us. Do you agree?
Maybe it would be useful to qualify what we think works are.
The point I was trying to make is that you said we will not be saved by bad works and I was saying neither will good works get us saved.
I was trying to convey that works do not save us but faith in Jesus crucified, died, and risen and confess him as Lord is what saves us.
Bad works decrease and good works increase.
Sanctification.
I did answer your question by posting Bible verses from Corinthians 3.
As believers we will have good works and bad works. Do you agree?
Neither will save us. Do you agree?
Maybe it would be useful to qualify what we think works are.
The point I was trying to make is that you said we will not be saved by bad works and I was saying neither will good works get us saved.
I was trying to convey that works do not save us but faith in Jesus crucified, died, and risen and confess him as Lord is what saves us.
Bad works decrease and good works increase.
Sanctification.
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Of course. I base my soul’s security on Romans 4:5. Romans 4:5 is the front door into the house. God wants us to Feel free to make the whole house our dwelling place. God’s grace is a bountiful palace. There’s so many rich blessings that lie behind the first door, so many other doors that lead deeper.
Nice chatting with you.
Nice chatting with you.
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The "Seal of God" refers to being "marked" with an outward sign of identification such as Abraham's "sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith he had," and doesn't refer to being "sealed shut" inside an inescapable enclosure or circumstance, as you suggest. The words "sign" and "seal" are used interchangeably in Scripture.
Furthermore, you should know that Isaiah said, "Bind up the testimony, Seal (or "Mark") the law among My disciples", which means the Seal of God has to do with God's law --- isn't it interesting that in Revelation 14, those who have the Seal of God are keeping God's law, which means that those who get the Mark of the Beast must be breaking it, right?
Furthermore, you should know that Isaiah said, "Bind up the testimony, Seal (or "Mark") the law among My disciples", which means the Seal of God has to do with God's law --- isn't it interesting that in Revelation 14, those who have the Seal of God are keeping God's law, which means that those who get the Mark of the Beast must be breaking it, right?
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The mere fact he thinks someone who has been truly born of God and experienced his true grace and forgiveness would willingly give God the finger and tell him to take his grace and do you know what with it. (As an old friend in of Mine used to argue) Just leads me to Believe he has never experienced it himself
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Once upon a time there was a group of individuals who loved God more than anybody in the history of the world...but for some inexplicable reason chose to turn their backs on Him.
The Bible calls them "fallen angels".
How foolish it would be for anyone to accuse them of never having experienced God's love, right or wrong?
The Bible calls them "fallen angels".
How foolish it would be for anyone to accuse them of never having experienced God's love, right or wrong?
I have a prayer request. I fell on ice and hurt my back very bad. Nothing broke, but it is extremely painful. Also 9 days ago, I had my 8th Stroke, but it seems I am okay, but it is seems nothing happen except a left arm went numb, my face and tongue went numb aslo. God Bless you all.
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