Would God Have us Solve Confusion of baptisms?
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Mmm. Hmmm. You are one of those people who thinks he knows better than the apostles. He thinks he knows better than the Bible.
Paul said to imitate him as he imitated Christ. Christ told the eleven to baptize 'the nations.' In Mark 16 it says that he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Paul had a special call to preach. Any believe can baptize. Paul did not have to be the one to do the baptizing, but the people needed to be baptized. Your interpretation of this verse does not align with the rest of the New Testament scriptures.
The way the apostles understood baptism had a lot to do with the actual basic usage of the word, which had to do with washing with water. It's the apostolic interpretation and application. Why should I think you know better than the apostles?
After all those eleven apostles were actually standing there when Jesus said the Spirit would 'lead you into all truth.' You were not.
Paul said to imitate him as he imitated Christ. Christ told the eleven to baptize 'the nations.' In Mark 16 it says that he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Paul had a special call to preach. Any believe can baptize. Paul did not have to be the one to do the baptizing, but the people needed to be baptized. Your interpretation of this verse does not align with the rest of the New Testament scriptures.
The way the apostles understood baptism had a lot to do with the actual basic usage of the word, which had to do with washing with water. It's the apostolic interpretation and application. Why should I think you know better than the apostles?
After all those eleven apostles were actually standing there when Jesus said the Spirit would 'lead you into all truth.' You were not.
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In fact, the Apostles did not do very well at all, with the exceptions of John the Beloved. Look at the Revelations that John got from Jesus His Pre-Eminence, yet Apostle Peter was the Angel of that Church age; that whasoever he binds in the earth shall be bound in heaven. They made many mistakes, which is why they could be martyred at all, which is why the head of the Church, Apostle Peter, denied Christ thrice, pointing to the three denials of the church. during the night time of apostasy.
1, Paganism
2. Papalism
3. False Protestantism.
The reason why it was before the cock crowed, was to reveal that it was before the dawn of a new day. That day in question, is the sabbath day, when the 7th Angel of the Church shall begin to sound, the mysteries of GOD shall be finished.
1, Paganism
2. Papalism
3. False Protestantism.
The reason why it was before the cock crowed, was to reveal that it was before the dawn of a new day. That day in question, is the sabbath day, when the 7th Angel of the Church shall begin to sound, the mysteries of GOD shall be finished.
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This is what it means. Why do you think Apostle Peter did not receive the revelations that John the Beloved did? Why do you think they couldn't kill john? It is written:
7 The Lord is my strength and my shield; my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth; and with my song will I praise him.
How could the Apostles be Martyed is this is true? It is also written:
Touch not my annointed and do my Prophets no harm.
look at how throughout the 4 books, they could not even touch Jesus His Pre-Eminence until HE allowed them to do so.
Then look at how An Angel came to free Apostle Peter from Prison.
How can the Apostles be matyred if they did well?
What are you talking about?
I have no reason at all to think that Peter did not receive the revelations of John the beloved. Peter may have been asleep in Christ when John wrote Revelation.
The Bible does not say whether John died or not, just that Jesus said __if__ it was His will that he remained until He came, what was that to Peter. The book of John is explicit about this.
That is a command. A lot of people are disobedient. Many prophets were murdered and they put the Anointed one to death.
Since Jesus did well, how can you ask the question? None of John's writings teach your theories about water baptism, either.
I have no reason at all to think that Peter did not receive the revelations of John the beloved. Peter may have been asleep in Christ when John wrote Revelation.
The Bible does not say whether John died or not, just that Jesus said __if__ it was His will that he remained until He came, what was that to Peter. The book of John is explicit about this.
That is a command. A lot of people are disobedient. Many prophets were murdered and they put the Anointed one to death.
Since Jesus did well, how can you ask the question? None of John's writings teach your theories about water baptism, either.
It is not a command, it is a warning, not a plea.
John the Beloved was bannished to the Island of Patmos after they tried to boil him alive.
You have no reason to think... lol do you choose to be naive? Do you know how a Prophet receives Revelations from GOD?
John the Beloved was the only one that Jesus His Pre-Eminence appeared to in HIS transfigured state to give HIM Revelations about the end times. And look at the detail of them, how John the beloved sealed them also writing them down in the Language of the Prophets...
saul paul did not get them, Apostle Peter did not get them. Only John the Beloved did. And it was John, who was told: behold thy mother, and to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Behold, thy son, revealing that the Church was put in the hands of John.
This is the reason why he was bannished, they rejected his messages. As it is written, if they hated me, they will hate you also. And Jude was the only one who received his messages, that is why he wrote of Enoch, and of the body of Moses being taken up by Arch Angel Michael, that is why it was John the Beloved that was given Revelations.
Finally, the only two that should baptize are the Elijah. It is them that are the baptists because they have the messages that can transfigure a person in life. That is what baptism is, the immersion of the Spirit Being of the person into the immortal celestial body. Baptizm by water is being born into this earth because the GOD programmed the person into the soul, and immersed them into the physical body. The one who baptizes by the Spirit and fire, is who immerses the person into their immortal body without dying at all.
Baptism is very serious, and no person except those; the 3 Elijah, or the 12 Apostles of the Lamb, or who the 12 Apostles send, should ever delve into that.
John the Beloved was bannished to the Island of Patmos after they tried to boil him alive.
You have no reason to think... lol do you choose to be naive? Do you know how a Prophet receives Revelations from GOD?
John the Beloved was the only one that Jesus His Pre-Eminence appeared to in HIS transfigured state to give HIM Revelations about the end times. And look at the detail of them, how John the beloved sealed them also writing them down in the Language of the Prophets...
saul paul did not get them, Apostle Peter did not get them. Only John the Beloved did. And it was John, who was told: behold thy mother, and to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Behold, thy son, revealing that the Church was put in the hands of John.
This is the reason why he was bannished, they rejected his messages. As it is written, if they hated me, they will hate you also. And Jude was the only one who received his messages, that is why he wrote of Enoch, and of the body of Moses being taken up by Arch Angel Michael, that is why it was John the Beloved that was given Revelations.
Finally, the only two that should baptize are the Elijah. It is them that are the baptists because they have the messages that can transfigure a person in life. That is what baptism is, the immersion of the Spirit Being of the person into the immortal celestial body. Baptizm by water is being born into this earth because the GOD programmed the person into the soul, and immersed them into the physical body. The one who baptizes by the Spirit and fire, is who immerses the person into their immortal body without dying at all.
Baptism is very serious, and no person except those; the 3 Elijah, or the 12 Apostles of the Lamb, or who the 12 Apostles send, should ever delve into that.
You obviously don't know what context is. You don't know what the Word says. You abuse scripture. You strive to make the word of God of none effect.
1Tim 6:3If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not [d]agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4he is conceited and understands nothing; but he [e]has a sick craving for controversial questions and disputes about words, from which come envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction between people of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that [f]godliness is a means of gain.
Fits like a glove.
1Tim 6:3If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not [d]agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, 4he is conceited and understands nothing; but he [e]has a sick craving for controversial questions and disputes about words, from which come envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, 5and constant friction between people of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that [f]godliness is a means of gain.
Fits like a glove.
When we go through the water at church in that makeshift bath tub ,although I've seen other ' ceremonies ' . I've also heard of folks getting dunked into a literal bath. All this happens after the Holy Spirit immerses us into the body and the old man is killed and is buried, and we are joined to Christ in newness of life. Now we can argue to the cows come home as to its significance as a ceremony and a ' figure ' . But what ever the case maybe ,water does not do anything. Nor is your commitment to do it a prerequisite to anything. Get dunked ? ok fine. Don't get dunked ? ok fine . Its nothing to do with getting saved today .
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You think Mary was a virgin at the cross? That sounds like Roman Catholic doctrine, but your doctrine which tries to find contradiction between apostle's teaching. Your deluded doctrine almost has a mentally ill feel to it.
Are you saying John was on the island because Peter and the other disciples or Peter and Mary rejected his messages? My understanding is that the tradition...not scripture... says that the representative(s) of the Roman government had him imprisoned on the island, not that Peter had him banished.
The Bible does not teach your theory. There is no reason to think any of the apostles held to this. It is not what scripture teaches.
This was no the practice or teaching of the early church. Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit. The apostles baptized. Peter instructed others to baptize Gentiles. Philip the evangelist baptized. A disciple named Ananias baptized. There is no restriction in scripture on who may baptize. There is some evidence that the one who did the evangelizing may often have done the baptizing, but Peter even left that to others.
Are you saying John was on the island because Peter and the other disciples or Peter and Mary rejected his messages? My understanding is that the tradition...not scripture... says that the representative(s) of the Roman government had him imprisoned on the island, not that Peter had him banished.
The Bible does not teach your theory. There is no reason to think any of the apostles held to this. It is not what scripture teaches.
This was no the practice or teaching of the early church. Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit. The apostles baptized. Peter instructed others to baptize Gentiles. Philip the evangelist baptized. A disciple named Ananias baptized. There is no restriction in scripture on who may baptize. There is some evidence that the one who did the evangelizing may often have done the baptizing, but Peter even left that to others.
The Blessed Virgin Mary was called such because she gave her womb to the GOD at a time when it was impossible for her to procreate as she had not started to go through puberty yet. The children that were called Jesus His Pre-Eminence siiblings, were Josephs children that he had with his first wife. When the Blessed Virgin Mary gave her womb to the GOD, she did not take it back and give it to a man.