Is QAnon part of the delusion in 2 Thessalonians 2:11?

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pottersclay

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I'm glad to find another watchman such as yourself to inquire on current events.
My answer to this is no....people of the Q have always existed with in society.
The delusion that Paul is referring to is that man will have the answer and solutions to the world's problems. Even if the problems are bigger than him. This will open the door for conditioning and grooming for anti-christ.
 

luigi

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I'm glad to find another watchman such as yourself to inquire on current events.
My answer to this is no....people of the Q have always existed with in society.
The delusion that Paul is referring to is that man will have the answer and solutions to the world's problems. Even if the problems are bigger than him. This will open the door for conditioning and grooming for anti-christ.
Even if QAnon isn't the delusion/s the Lord will send upon mankind who deny the truth, so that they can take pleasure in not believing; from what I read in the Washington Post article, QAnon members seem to be very detached from reality, unwilling to believe the truth, and instead choosing to believe in lies. As such QAnon members do meet the criteria described in 2 Thessalonians 2.
 
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Even if QAnon isn't the delusion/s the Lord will send upon mankind who deny the truth, so that they can take pleasure in not believing; from what I read in the Washington Post article, QAnon members seem to be very detached from reality, unwilling to believe the truth, and instead choosing to believe in lies. As such QAnon members do meet the criteria described in 2 Thessalonians 2.
I think you have it all reversed. Most of what Q says, and much of what the so-called Anons claim, is true. Society is a wicked place, and there is a conspiracy of pedophiles, homosexuals and every shade of devil-worshipper at its highest levels controlling the world stage.

I suspect, although I do not know, that the deception Q will bring is that when these wicked men are universally exposed and overthrown, and when people realise how blind they have been and how wonderful to have such evil deposed, they will place their faith in mankind to dispel of such evils by himself, or someone other than Christ.
 
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I wouldn't be so quick to judge them based off of a WaPo article. I mean, it's WaPo so of course they're just going to say anything about Q to discredit it. It's called confirmation bias.

How does one tell which news station is right for them? By picking the one that confirms their bias.

A lot of Q people are very patriotic, Bible believing, Trump supporters who are tired of government corruption. WaPo wants you to believe they are a threat and maybe Q is but not to you.

Q is a threat to the powers that be even though it probably started off as a psyop. It's large and influential now and they're basically just trying to do damage control against Q to keep people on the reservation.

If WaPo is anti-Q then Q is probably worth a closer look. There is some good in Q.
 

luigi

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I wouldn't be so quick to judge them based off of a WaPo article. I mean, it's WaPo so of course they're just going to say anything about Q to discredit it. It's called confirmation bias.

How does one tell which news station is right for them? By picking the one that confirms their bias.

A lot of Q people are very patriotic, Bible believing, Trump supporters who are tired of government corruption. WaPo wants you to believe they are a threat and maybe Q is but not to you.

Q is a threat to the powers that be even though it probably started off as a psyop. It's large and influential now and they're basically just trying to do damage control against Q to keep people on the reservation.

If WaPo is anti-Q then Q is probably worth a closer look. There is some good in Q.
The Washington Post article are interviews with different people whose family members are QAnon members. These QAnon members have disowned their own family members and friends for not being on board with their beliefs, some of which are absolutely ridiculous. Examples: Members of congress running pedophile rings out of pizza parlors, where they're also eating babies.
As such, QAnon members who believe in such ridiculous stuff, are delusional, and do meet the criteria of denying the truth, while believing in lies.
 

luigi

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I think you have it all reversed. Most of what Q says, and much of what the so-called Anons claim, is true. Society is a wicked place, and there is a conspiracy of pedophiles, homosexuals and every shade of devil-worshipper at its highest levels controlling the world stage.

I suspect, although I do not know, that the deception Q will bring is that when these wicked men are universally exposed and overthrown, and when people realise how blind they have been and how wonderful to have such evil deposed, they will place their faith in mankind to dispel of such evils by himself, or someone other than Christ.
I am aware that there is evil in the highest places of government, which has been the case since the world began, and which the bible confirms. What is different now is QAnon using modicums of truth, then twisting it with lies, and directing its accusations against certain individuals, and or political parties. The Nazis in Germany did this also.
 

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Quoting from the Washington Post
The Washington Post -- just like the New York Times -- is simply a propaganda tool for the Democrats and Left Liberals. Therefore anything they publish cannot be taken at face value. It is one of the sources of Fake News. The Left fears the QAnon Movement, which has many Trump supporters.

"Over the course of the last week, the cultural and political phenomenon known as the QAnon Movement has been categorically attacked by nearly every major legacy media organization in the US in what appears to be a coordinated effort to mischaracterize and discredit it in rapid succession.

Notable left-leaning publications from the Washington Post, NY Times, USA Today, Bloomberg, to magazines like The New Yorker, Newsweek, and Fortune, to national and cable news outlets such as NBC News, CNN, CBS News, and MSNBC, and even national broadcasting services such as PBS and the BBC have all shined in concert a glaringly critical spotlight on the movement.

Other than the consistently negative media coverage of President Trump, such a barrage of coordinated mainstream media attacks has not been seen since Wikileaks published The Podesta Emails in the final weeks before the 2016 US Presidential Election.

The coverage’s common denominator is the use of shared descriptives including “fringe, far-right, false, deranged, insane, bizarre, cult, and conspiracy theory” in an attempt to marginalize the movement. The media blitz reached a zenith after President Trump’s rally in Tampa, Florida on July 31, where a contingency of attendees sported “Q” t-shirts and raised homemade placards directing viewers to #QAnon and to www.Qanon.pub, the website that re-publishes QAnon’s 8chan content.

By all objective standards, the popularity of the movement is on the rise. Yet, QAnon remains by design inherently mysterious. No one knows QAnon’s actual identity, as the information is exclusively published on the anonymous forum 8chan. In an age increasingly characterized by big tech profiteering from the sale of users’ private metadata and algorithm-based censorship, 8chan remains one of the last online vestiges that values freedom of thought, speech, and information."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/ascending-legacy-media-spotlight-propels-qanon-movement/

So to answer your question, it is not QAnon that is a part of the strong delusion mentioned in 2 Thessalonians, but ALL THE MAINSTREAM AND SOCIAL MEDIA, which are lying to the public every day in order to promote their false Leftist/Marxist/Communist worldview. The MSM networks have become garbage purveyors, constantly shielding the evildoers, and constantly attacking those who uphold conservative values.
 

luigi

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The Washington Post -- just like the New York Times -- is simply a propaganda tool for the Democrats and Left Liberals. Therefore anything they publish cannot be taken at face value. It is one of the sources of Fake News. The Left fears the QAnon Movement, which has many Trump supporters.

"Over the course of the last week, the cultural and political phenomenon known as the QAnon Movement has been categorically attacked by nearly every major legacy media organization in the US in what appears to be a coordinated effort to mischaracterize and discredit it in rapid succession.

Notable left-leaning publications from the Washington Post, NY Times, USA Today, Bloomberg, to magazines like The New Yorker, Newsweek, and Fortune, to national and cable news outlets such as NBC News, CNN, CBS News, and MSNBC, and even national broadcasting services such as PBS and the BBC have all shined in concert a glaringly critical spotlight on the movement.

Other than the consistently negative media coverage of President Trump, such a barrage of coordinated mainstream media attacks has not been seen since Wikileaks published The Podesta Emails in the final weeks before the 2016 US Presidential Election.

The coverage’s common denominator is the use of shared descriptives including “fringe, far-right, false, deranged, insane, bizarre, cult, and conspiracy theory” in an attempt to marginalize the movement. The media blitz reached a zenith after President Trump’s rally in Tampa, Florida on July 31, where a contingency of attendees sported “Q” t-shirts and raised homemade placards directing viewers to #QAnon and to www.Qanon.pub, the website that re-publishes QAnon’s 8chan content.

By all objective standards, the popularity of the movement is on the rise. Yet, QAnon remains by design inherently mysterious. No one knows QAnon’s actual identity, as the information is exclusively published on the anonymous forum 8chan. In an age increasingly characterized by big tech profiteering from the sale of users’ private metadata and algorithm-based censorship, 8chan remains one of the last online vestiges that values freedom of thought, speech, and information."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/ascending-legacy-media-spotlight-propels-qanon-movement/

So to answer your question, it is not QAnon that is a part of the strong delusion mentioned in 2 Thessalonians, but ALL THE MAINSTREAM AND SOCIAL MEDIA, which are lying to the public every day in order to promote their false Leftist/Marxist/Communist worldview. The MSM networks have become garbage purveyors, constantly shielding the evildoers, and constantly attacking those who uphold conservative values.
Either QAnon members are delusional, or those disclaiming QAnon beliefs are delusional. Since I do not believe members of Congress are running pedophile rings out of pizza parlors, where they're also eating babies;...I then see QAnon members as those who deny truth and choose to believe lies, and thereby meet the criteria in 2 Thessalonians 2:11.
 

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First off, every word The Washington Post utters is lies, half truths, propaganda and deception.

Having said that, I believe Q is a psyop. Directed by who I’m not sure. Deep state for certain.

Textbook 1984. In the Book, Deep state O’Brien only pretended to help and be on Winstons side. Giving just enough truth to get him to believe. All the while setting him up for disaster.

Q is almost certainly right about many things, but I wouldn’t trust it. I warned my sister to steer clear of Q.
 

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pottersclay

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Even if QAnon isn't the delusion/s the Lord will send upon mankind who deny the truth, so that they can take pleasure in not believing; from what I read in the Washington Post article, QAnon members seem to be very detached from reality, unwilling to believe the truth, and instead choosing to believe in lies. As such QAnon members do meet the criteria described in 2 Thessalonians 2.
O I quite agree and there are many out there.
But what we're looking for is a belief that causes a apostasy....when the faithful are even challenged.
 
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The Washington Post article are interviews with different people whose family members are QAnon members. These QAnon members have disowned their own family members and friends for not being on board with their beliefs, some of which are absolutely ridiculous. Examples: Members of congress running pedophile rings out of pizza parlors, where they're also eating babies.
As such, QAnon members who believe in such ridiculous stuff, are delusional, and do meet the criteria of denying the truth, while believing in lies.
Again, confirmation bias. Cherry pick the people who confirm the anti-Q narrative without showing the success stories of Q anon.

It's the same way Prosperity Gospel works: show the people who happened to get rich by excessive contributions to the church while ignoring those who ended up in poverty after being deceived by false prophets.

It's very basic propaganda. I'm surprised they tricked you so easily.
 

luigi

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First off, every word The Washington Post utters is lies, half truths, propaganda and deception.

Having said that, I believe Q is a psyop. Directed by who I’m not sure. Deep state for certain.

Textbook 1984. In the Book, Deep state O’Brien only pretended to help and be on Winstons side. Giving just enough truth to get him to believe. All the while setting him up for disaster.

Q is almost certainly right about many things, but I wouldn’t trust it. I warned my sister to steer clear of Q.
You are claiming that the interviews of family members of QAnon believers are made up; since you believe that every word the Washington Post writes is lies, half truths, propaganda and deception.
 

luigi

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Let's focus on pedophile rings. Are you denying that such things exist, when the whole Jeffrey Epstein business was all about this, and ranking politicians were involved? https://www.thecut.com/tags/the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/

So now who is the one who is delusional?
As I stated in post #7, I am aware there being evil in the highest positions of government, as the bible confirms this. Does this mean that members of Congress are running pedophile rings out of pizza parlors, and are also consuming babies? Come on; only the most gullible, and those who want to believe such nonsense, would believe this. Those who then willfully choose to believe in this and other such ridiculous accusations, do so by exchanging the truth for a lie, and thereby meet the criteria in 2 Thessalonians 2.

Touching back on the first point of corruption at the highest levels in government; I do believe that most of the Democratic members of Congress and the Senate, along with the GOP members of Congress and the Senate are corrupt, self serving, doing the bidding of their corporate lobbyists. These lobbyists for big business have various means by which they monetarily recompense our legislators to do their bidding. Most members of Congress and the Senate are therefore financially very well off, and would not need to open pedophile rings in pizza parlors.
 

luigi

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O I quite agree and there are many out there.
But what we're looking for is a belief that causes a apostasy....when the faithful are even challenged.
Very true that we are looking for an apostasy to truth. Members of QAnon seem to be fertile ground for such a movement.
 

luigi

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Again, confirmation bias. Cherry pick the people who confirm the anti-Q narrative without showing the success stories of Q anon.

It's the same way Prosperity Gospel works: show the people who happened to get rich by excessive contributions to the church while ignoring those who ended up in poverty after being deceived by false prophets.

It's very basic propaganda. I'm surprised they tricked you so easily.
The first interview in the Post article was about a 20 something year old whose mother disowned him. His stepmother then picked up the 20 something year old, and told him that what his natural mother did to him was not love. If the 20 something year old's mother did not know love for her own natural born son, because of her new beliefs in QAnon; then, since God is love (1 John 4:7-8 & 16), there is something very wrong with QAnon, where its affects are Anti love/AntiChrist.
 
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The first interview in the Post article was about a 20 something year old whose mother disowned him. His stepmother then picked up the 20 something year old, and told him that what his natural mother did to him was not love. If the 20 something year old's mother did not know love for her own natural born son, because of her new beliefs in QAnon; then, since God is love (1 John 4:7-8 & 16), there is something very wrong with QAnon, where its affects are Anti love/AntiChrist.
They cherry picked a bad story to show you. Did they tell you about any of the good stories of people who found Christ through Q? I've witnessed non-Christians get exposure to the gospel through meeting Q people.

They use this tactic all the time. It doesn't prove that QAnon is anti-Christian. It means that individuals can do bad things because of the sinful nature. Even Christians who are born again believers are not above practicing non-Christian behavior. Do you still sin?

So by using your logic you are implying that Christians are anti-Love/anti-Christian. It's called a red herring logical fallacy.

Sorry, you haven't proved anything other than that you are easily lead by what the mainstream media says. Be careful trusting them with your beliefs.
 

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Either QAnon members are delusional, or those disclaiming QAnon beliefs are delusional. Since I do not believe members of Congress are running pedophile rings out of pizza parlors, where they're also eating babies;...I then see QAnon members as those who deny truth and choose to believe lies, and thereby meet the criteria in 2 Thessalonians 2:11.
I don’t think we have enough information to say that all Q’s are delusional nor do we have enough to say that certain high ranking politicians aren’t involved in satanic practices.
However, we do have reliable information from the Bible that proves such practices existed, question is have they ceased. No, no they haven’t.
Human sacrifice is still taking place on the earth today in various circles. We may not see it on the news but if you talk to just about any law enforcement department in the country you will hear of ritual animal and human sacrifice.
I don’t know enough about the Q thing but from what I understand it is a high ranking group that is supposedly fighting evil, evil we know exists. Who’s to say God is not using this core group, this group you’ve labeled enemy.
 

PennEd

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You are claiming that the interviews of family members of QAnon believers are made up; since you believe that every word the Washington Post writes is lies, half truths, propaganda and deception.
Nope. That’s not what I said.

The purpose of the piece is to smear people, and attempt to make them look like kooks. That’s the whole motivation by this Jeff Bezos owned propaganda machine.