God's ONE Baptism For His Body!

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Briefly:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)
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Expanded Version, For your Edification/spiritual Building Up!, follows:

God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism Under HIS GRACE!

Grace and Peace! To ALL Dear Readers who have Persevered
through the many previous baptisms, and have come to this
point of Weighing ALL Of God’s Scriptural Evidence In HIS Very
Critically Important Doctrine Of Baptisms!

Is God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism, as many think, water?

We are Spiritually Identified With (Baptized Into) CHRIST, HIS
Crucifixion, HIS Death, HIS Burial, And HIS Resurrection!

(Sounds like The Greatest News I've Ever heard!), so…

...some of The Confirming Scriptures:

Romans 6:3 ...Baptized Into JESUS CHRIST...Baptized Into HIS Death!

Romans 6:4 ...Buried With HIM By Baptism Into Death!

Romans 6:6 ...Crucified (JESUS' Baptism?) With HIM! - And also:

“For as many of you as Have Been BAPTIZED Into
CHRIST
Have Put On CHRIST!” (Galatians 3:27!)

How does a physical ritual "Baptize us into a Spiritual Organism"?

In addition, there is NO water Found “In God's Context” Of Any Of
These Baptism Passages! }, Precious friend(s), do you Agree With God?
Or, can we simply Add/Infer water into HIS Context "to fit" another view?

With The SuperNatural Help Of The Blessed Holy Spirit, And Comparing
Spiritual Scripture WITH Spiritual Scriptures (1 Corinthians 2:13!),
This ONE Baptism Makes us Spiritually:

“COMPLETE In HIM, WHO Is The Head Of ALL principality and power!”
(Colossians 2:10!), having:

“...The Circumcision Made WITHOUT HANDS { God’s Operation? }
...The Circumcision Of CHRIST!” (Colossians 2:11!), And Spiritually:

“Buried With HIM In BAPTISM, Wherein Also ye Are Risen With
HIM Through The Faith Of THE OPERATION Of God, Who
Hath RAISED HIM From The Dead!” (Colossians 2:12!), AND
Further:

“Not by works of righteousness {water?} which we have done, But
According To HIS Mercy HE SAVED us By The WASHING of REGENERATION
{Operation Of God’s BLOOD? }, And RENEWING Of The Holy Ghost!” (Titus 3:5!)

“Which HE Shed on us Abundantly Through JESUS CHRIST our SAVIOUR!”
(Titus 3:6!)

This Should “Complete The Spiritual OPERATION” of The Triune GodHead,
But, Are we done “Comparing ALL The Scriptures” Of The ONE Baptism?
All diligent students Should see That, In:

The Revelation Of The Mystery (Gospel Of GRACE For "us Today”),
with a Prayerful and Careful study, Rightly Divided, God Teaches:

Ephesians 4:5 KJB, Clearly States: “...One LORD, one faith, ONE BAPTISM...”
{perchance Paul was mistaken, and he really meant two?}

So, What Saith The Holy Scriptures “In It's Context,” About This ONE Baptism?:

“Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of The Spirit in the bond of Peace!
There is One Body, and One Spirit, even as ye are called in One hope
of your calling; One LORD, One faith, ONE Baptism, One God And Father
of ALL, Who Is Above ALL, and through All, and In you All!”
(Ephesians 4:3-6!)

Are we All Really "endeavouring to keep this "Unity"?

Now, unless we are mistaken, there are 3 choices of understanding
God’s Context In This Critically Important Passage!:

1) all “physical” { Wrong "unity" } = Destruction of “HIS Context," agreed?

2) “combo” of 6 Spiritual + 1 “physical,” lifted “out, and”

“isolated”​

From HIS Context, to be interpreted as: “water” baptism =
Destruction { NO Unity! } Of God's Context, agreed?

3) These Seven Unities Of God's Spirit are All Spiritual, so
now we kindly/humbly ask, Is God’s ONE Baptism “Spiritual”?

Let us, Finally:
Make ONE More "Scriptural Comparison" (1 Corinthians 2 : 13!), And Ask:
“What Saith The Scripture?” And, The ONE Answer we hear, From God, IS:

For 'BY' ONE Spirit are we all Baptized Into ONE Body, whether
we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; And Have
Been ALL Made To Drink Into ONE Spirit!"
(1 Corinthians 12:13 KJB!)

UNITED! Or Severely Divided?

If This "ONE BAPTISM" Is Not = The OPERATION Of God,”
then we would have to concede that it is:

men & religion with ‘water' that saves us – any takers?

{ Please advise: Is it not sin to take God’s “Spiritual Operation" Of "ONE
Baptism," and for men To “ADD to IT Or Replace IT with” water? Is this
[ Wrongly Combining, instead of "Rightly Dividing, God's Word of Truth" ]
not why the “weak And Severely Divided Church” is Thoroughly Confused? }

“For God Is not The Author of confusion, but Of PEACE,
as in ALL churches of the saints!” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJB!)
Amen?

Thus, All True Believers who come to God, In The Way God Has
Prescribed In His HOLY WORD, By The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God,
And Place Complete 100% faith In:

The LORD JESUS CHRIST, In HIS Precious BLOOD, And In HIS Resurrection!

Will ALWAYS have spiritual UNITY!, In:

God's “Spiritual OPERATION” Of Eternal Salvation For EverMore! Amen?

Are All in "agreement With God" with your Final Verdict Of HIS Truth!?
(1 Corinthians 1:9-18 cp Romans 15:6; Philippians 1:27!)

IF so, could that Really be the start of practical earthly UNITY Of
The Already "spiritually UNITED ( members one of another!” ), Church
{ In Heaven! }, Which Is HIS Body, Of CHRIST!? (Ephesians 4:3 KJB!)

And, That "fellowship Based On" our mutual FAITH In CHRIST!
{ instead of VARIOUS Unsound water doctrines! } Amen?

Please pray for this “Unity Of The Spirit In The Bond Of Peace!” And,
thanks kindly For Your Patient Review of This Critically Important study!

ONE BAPTISM Video IF you wish...

And, Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed!
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LORD JESUS, thank You for This Precious Word Of Truth That Has Solved my
"confusion." May This Also be used for the Encouragement of Many others.
Amen.
 

stepbystep

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The One Baptism spoken of in Scripture is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Water baptism deals with the earthly person(s). It is an act of obedience.

(in my opinion)
 
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how to know you've got baptism first part and second?
 

GRACE_ambassador

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how to know you've got baptism first part and second?
Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to Chat. Please clarify your question:
Do you believe baptism has TWO parts?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

GRACE And Peace...
 
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5For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his
 

Pilgrimshope

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how to know you've got baptism first part and second?
it is like christs baptism baptism has never changed from what God established through John the Baptist TV is is baptism established by God

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Now when all the people were baptized, ( in water ) it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭

baptism is the same now it’s for remission of sins the Holy Ghost is a gift of belief

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭

just like Jesus and all the people did. The confusion I think comes in here

“I indeed have baptized you with water:

but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

John was talking about pentocost when the soirit was shed forth johns words are understood here

“and, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then it was fulfilled here


“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:1-

That’s when he baptized then with the spirit. All Of them had been baptized for remission of sins beforehand now they received the promise

I’m not sure why people have an issue with the only baptism described in the Bible but if water was now not necassary. Why did they keep doing it ? Commanding it immediately upon conversion ?

After they received the soirit from Jesus foretold By John

“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And be commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

same baptism in water

“And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.

Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:45-48‬ ‭

same baltism in water commanded by Peter already bekng himself full
Of the Holy Ghost

it doesn’t change because God already established baltism for remission of sins. The argument against it are based on berses that don’t specifically mention water like this

“..Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

because this doesn’t specifically say “ Paul was baptized in water for remission “ is their logic that water isn’t involved even though it’s already well established and there’s no need to keep saying “ baltism in water for remission of sins “

it’s already established and there’s just one baptism established in scripture by the baptist John who came preceding Jesus

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Either we have to say jesusnlartook of the wrong baptism , Peter commanded ten wrong baptism , and real baptism is some other thing not written in scripture that somehow erases what is written plainly in scripture every reference to baptism is referring to the one and only baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name

Baltism isn’t even a complex matter it’s plain and repetitively wrotten for us
 

GRACE_ambassador

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5For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his
Thanks, Precious friend. No water in God's Context Here, Correct?

"Know ye not, that so many of us as were Baptized into Jesus Christ​
were baptized into His Death? Therefore we are Buried With Him By​
Baptism into Death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead​
By The Glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness​
of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His​
Death, we shall be also in the likeness of His Resurrection:"​
(Romans 6:3-5)​

Thus, Under GRACE Today, It Is "God's OPERATION To Be Baptized Into Christ":

1) Today, There Is Only ONE Baptism (Ephesians 4:5)

2) It Is The OPERATION Of God (Colossians 2:12) (18-point study)

a) Into His Death (Romans 6:3)
b) Buried, and Risen With Him (Colossians 2:12)

3) By God, The Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13)

Conclusion: As "works" would Cancel GRACE (Romans 11:6), it
Can Not be water of yesterday's law (#'s 4, 9, & 10 here). Amen?

GRACE And Peace...
 
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it is like christs baptism baptism has never changed from what God established through John the Baptist TV is is baptism established by God

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. And there went out unto him all the land of Judæa, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Now when all the people were baptized, ( in water ) it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭3:21-22‬ ‭

baptism is the same now it’s for remission of sins the Holy Ghost is a gift of belief

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38‬ ‭

just like Jesus and all the people did. The confusion I think comes in here

“I indeed have baptized you with water:

but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

John was talking about pentocost when the soirit was shed forth johns words are understood here

“and, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Then it was fulfilled here


“And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:1-

That’s when he baptized then with the spirit. All Of them had been baptized for remission of sins beforehand now they received the promise

I’m not sure why people have an issue with the only baptism described in the Bible but if water was now not necassary. Why did they keep doing it ? Commanding it immediately upon conversion ?

After they received the soirit from Jesus foretold By John

“And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And be commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:36-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬

same baptism in water

“And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God.

Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:45-48‬ ‭

same baltism in water commanded by Peter already bekng himself full
Of the Holy Ghost

it doesn’t change because God already established baltism for remission of sins. The argument against it are based on berses that don’t specifically mention water like this

“..Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭9:17-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

because this doesn’t specifically say “ Paul was baptized in water for remission “ is their logic that water isn’t involved even though it’s already well established and there’s no need to keep saying “ baltism in water for remission of sins “

it’s already established and there’s just one baptism established in scripture by the baptist John who came preceding Jesus

“There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Either we have to say jesusnlartook of the wrong baptism , Peter commanded ten wrong baptism , and real baptism is some other thing not written in scripture that somehow erases what is written plainly in scripture every reference to baptism is referring to the one and only baptism for remission of sins in Jesus name

Baltism isn’t even a complex matter it’s plain and repetitively wrotten for us
how to know you've got baptism first part and second?

where there's the answer?

by water?

oneself or by somebody?

with deploma from one worldly university baptist or catholic?


baptism accepted on heaven by all universities?


signs of baptism?

nothing left to show as a proof?
 
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Thanks, Precious friend. No water in God's Context Here, Correct?

"Know ye not, that so many of us as were Baptized into Jesus Christ​
were baptized into His Death? Therefore we are Buried With Him By​
Baptism into Death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead​
By The Glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness​
of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of His​
Death, we shall be also in the likeness of His Resurrection:"​
(Romans 6:3-5)​

Thus, Under GRACE Today, It Is "God's OPERATION To Be Baptized Into Christ":

1) Today, There Is Only ONE Baptism (Ephesians 4:5)

2) It Is The OPERATION Of God (Colossians 2:12) (18-point study)

a) Into His Death (Romans 6:3)
b) Buried, and Risen With Him (Colossians 2:12)

3) By God, The Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13)

Conclusion: As "works" would Cancel GRACE (Romans 11:6), it
Can Not be water of yesterday's law (#'s 4, 9, & 10 here). Amen?

GRACE And Peace...
it is two phases of baptism death and resurrection

who did not die and did not come to life was not baptized

i speak like apostle about spiritual baptism

water baptism is nothing today


baptism of forgiveness nobody can provide if doesn't have right to forgive sins

because cannot heal anybody by word
 

Pilgrimshope

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how to know you've got baptism first part and second?

where there's the answer?

by water?

oneself or by somebody?

with deploma from one worldly university baptist or catholic?


baptism accepted on heaven by all universities?


signs of baptism?

nothing left to show as a proof?
“how to know you've got baptism first part and second?”

you believe first because it’s his word and he brings the promises later as we persevere.

that sounds too simple as to what your asking but not if we go back and realize God always says something first and there’s no proof of it being true , that’s faith to understand “ God said , and it is so “

The proof of baptism in my view tangibly is the changing of our own lives hearts and minds away from the sins of our past and towards the righteousness of Christ in the gospel.

but to want proof from God is not faith . Noah is a good example God told him the world was about to end in a massive flood and to build an ark and he’s be saved

Noah had no other proof of this being true but that God said it was going to happen. And when he hears what God had said he believed it was true without the proof, so in response to his belief he acted and built the ark and was saved by faith.

has he wanted proof of the flood before he built the ark it wouldnt have been faith it was faith because he understood God doesn’t and cannot lie or be in error whatever he says is going to later come to pass

faith is to let what God has said become more real than what we see with our own eyes. And to hear and believe when there isn’t any proof but what he said. Like Noah and Abraham had done.

God told Abraham “ leave your family and homeland and go to where I will later show you to go and ill
Bless you and make you great in the earth a father of many nations you will be “


Abraham believed what God said before there was any proof he left his homeland and followed the lords word and actually never In His earthly life became father of many nations he had only two sons and one was a castaway.

Faith is like this

“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:13-14, 16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you see the proof has to be what God said we don’t have proof that there’s a heavenly city waiting ahead for us , but we hear Gods word about it and believe because we know his word is true. We are convinced and embrace it because he’s made a promise

we have to come to believe what he said and will receive what he said we will if we do what he’s told us will deliver the promise it’s all of faith .

you know you received remission of sins because that’s what God said baptism is for you.

know you receive ten Holy Ghost because that’s what God said beleiving the gospel will bring.

The proof is what he said is infallible and in due time we will receive e rewards of faith if we don’t give up
 
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17σημεῖα δὲ τοῖς πιστεύσασιν ταῦτα παρακολουθήσει, ἐν τῷ ὀνόματί μου δαιμόνια ἐκβαλοῦσιν, γλώσσαις λαλήσουσιν καιναῖς


signs of believers these ones will follow : In My name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new languages


signs of faith that imputed into righteousness by God
 

Blade

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It is cute how we use words "Is God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism ". How can you say anything.. its GOD's doctrine.. hmm