Jesus and Paul -two different gospels?

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Magenta said:
That does not preclude Paul from being an apostle to others.

Did you not just agree that Paul evangelized Jews also?

“I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings
salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.”

Paul preached in synagogues to Jews.
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We should preach to jews ,it doesn't make us ' an apostle to ...."
 
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Guojing said:
You mean to say all of us are given the same good news that we shall have descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky (Genesis 15:5)?
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Guojing said:
You mean to say all of us are given the same good news that we shall have descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky (Genesis 15:5)?
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when reading somoni's post, try not to read something into it that is not there.
 
posthuman said:
just because you aren't thinking about differential equations and solving Newtonian momentum equations when you decide if you have time to pull your car out onto a highway from a stop sign, doesn't mean you're doing "a different physics" or no physics at all. if you were to write out all the math involved in that simple decision of whether you can safely merge into traffic, it would be 30 pages long -- but you're doing it in your head in an instant even if you have never been taught how to write the most basic things in calculus and can hardly even add 3 digit numbers together.

ignorance of the details of the gospel does not equal a different gospel.

Adam did not know everything written in the NT but when the LORD pronounced that The Seed of the Woman would crush the seed of the Serpent, Adam heard and believed the gospel.
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So what you are saying is that gospel means good news

And that God had released various good news to different people at different times

That is correct
 
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Guojing said:
I used this observation, "None of them were camping outside his tomb and counting down to his resurrection on Sunday." ;)
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do you have any idea how much physical complexity there is even in the simple act of you reaching out now to type a word onto your keyboard?
how far do you move each finger, how much blood needs to go to each muscle, how tight should each one be and which ones need to relax? which nerve cells need to be activated, what path should the signal take from your brain, what should be the frequency of the electrical pulses, what stores of energy in your body should be converted to carry it out? how does your eye track all these things, collect the photons and decipher them, translate them into something your brain understands and can use to make fine adjustments to every one of thousands of sinews and blood vessels?

but you do it all automatically in complete conscious ignorance of all the details.

does this mean it's a 'different set of hands' at work for you to write a reply?
because you don't know every intricacy of a thing, does it make 'a different set of facts'?
when you don't fully understand the truth, does it become 'a different truth' by virtue of your ignorance?
if i hide my hand in my cloak, is it now a different hand?
 
Is Revelation 14 the gospel that Paul preached? The gospel of how Jesus died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day?

“The everlasting Gospel" presents God as the Creator, not the Savior, and warns men that judgment is coming. It calls men to fear God and give Him the glory, not the Beast and Satan. This is God's final call to a world deluded by Satan.

Revelation 14
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 
John146 said:
His hearts desire was to see the Jews saved, but he was an apostle to the Gentiles. Yes?
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And? Not sure how that relates to the point I was making, try to keep up please

not sure how that relates to the question of two,gospels

did paul teach a different gospel when he went to them than he taught tot the gentiles?
 
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throughfaith said:
Which verses are you referring to ?
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How about:

Ephesians 2:8-9
Galatians 2:20
Romans 1:17

I mean, Paul gets really wordy going into great detail. Hard to understand, but not unsound. This is was the disciple Peter says of Paul:

2 Peter 3:15-16
15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

so even back then people were misunderstanding things Paul said. Peter vouches for Paul here and that's a pretty good endorsement I'd say.
 
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Runningman said:
How about:

Ephesians 2:8-9
Galatians 2:20
Romans 1:17

I mean, Paul gets really wordy going into great detail. Hard to understand, but not unsound. This is was the disciple Peter says of Paul:

2 Peter 3:15-16
15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

so even back then people were misunderstanding things Paul said. Peter vouches for Paul here and that's a pretty good endorsement I'd say.
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It shows they also agreed with what he said, and that what Paul taught to them was the same message, not a different one
 
eternally-gratefull said:
And? Not sure how that relates to the point I was making, try to keep up please

not sure how that relates to the question of two,gospels

did paul teach a different gospel when he went to them than he taught tot the gentiles?
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Yes, he wanted to see them saved. The restoration of the kingdom of Israel had been postponed because of their rejection. Paul wanted to see their souls saved.
 
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John146 said:
Yes, he wanted to see them saved. The restoration of the kingdom of Israel had been postponed because of their rejection. Paul wanted to see their souls saved.
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Again, sure how this relates to what I was responding to. So not sure what point your trying to make,
 
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