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Duskey said:
Perfectly stated.
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You just want to throw out one liners rather than defend your position with a cogent argument.

it is plain to see, ad hominem responses are the result of highly emotional rather than rational thinking.

Like I stated before you are entitled to believe as you want, however no need to make it personal, but you cannot resist I guess.:(
 
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Duskey said:
He’s not a politician, he’s a business man. However if you want to label him a politician, he’s a populous president whose best intentions are for us commoners.
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I notice this: people wanting to redefine words. Hey, guess what? It don' work like that ;)

politician
noun
1. a person who is active in party politics.
2. a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.
3. a person who holds a political office.
4. a person skilled in political government or administration; statesman or stateswoman.
5. an expert in politics or political government.
6. a person who seeks to gain power or advancement within an organization in ways that are generally disapproved.

Whether you like it or not or lie about it or not, Trump is a politician :rolleyes:
 
calibob said:
I meant the part from you.

If you're born of the Holy Ghost you are born from the get go, whether you know it or not, then the wasted effort might not be coming to the knowledge of the truth,

What does that mean? It almost sounds Calvinistic! :eek:(n)
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Simply stated, see John 14:26
 
Duskey said:
He’s not a politician, he’s a business man. However if you want to label him a politician, he’s a populous president whose best intentions are for us commoners.
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Never mind labels.

There is only one discussion that matters....policy decisions.

Intentions are not measured by words but by actions... what concrete action in your view did he take to make life better for the average US citizen?

And no need to answer right away... I have a lasagna to make :D
 
EleventhHour said:
Tell me can you admit to anything that Trump has down wrong while in office?
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He should have sent in the NG to every city where murderous anarchists were assaulting citizens and police and burning businesses to the ground. He should have instituted shoot to kill orders upon those anarchists and bring order to my country.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Never mind labels.

There is only one discussion that matters....policy decisions.

Intentions are not measured by words but by actions... what concrete action in your view did he take to make life better for the average US citizen?

And no need to answer right away... I have a lasagna to make :D
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He’s labeled a populous president because of his actions. He lowered taxes, helped create jobs, stimulated the greatest economy ever with record low unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics, 401K’s and stocks skyrocketed, enhanced our military and brought four nations to the peace table with Israel which makes everyone’s life better. Enjoy your lasagna.
 
Duskey said:
He should have sent in the NG to every city where murderous anarchists were assaulting citizens and police and burning businesses to the ground. He should have instituted shoot to kill orders upon those anarchists and bring order to my country.
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I do have to go make lasagna, but if you know about chess every move has various and many counter moves.

That sounds like what the CPP tyrants did to the protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, so you want a tyrant in office who forces his will upon the people.

If your country does away with due process it will have assaulted liberty far more than any mask mandate.

I am not able to deal with these things on such a black and white level as you do... off to make my lasagna, Frank is getting hungry. LOL
 
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Magenta said:
I notice this: people wanting to redefine words. Hey, guess what? It don' work like that ;)

politician
noun
1. a person who is active in party politics.
2. a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.
3. a person who holds a political office.
4. a person skilled in political government or administration; statesman or stateswoman.
5. an expert in politics or political government.
6. a person who seeks to gain power or advancement within an organization in ways that are generally disapproved.

Whether you like it or not or lie about it or not, Trump is a politician :rolleyes:
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If it makes you feel better call him what you like. You have my blessings.
 
Duskey said:
He’s labeled a populous president because of his actions. He lowered taxes, helped create jobs, stimulated the greatest economy ever with record low unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics, 401K’s and stocks skyrocketed, enhanced our military and brought four nations to the peace table with Israel which makes everyone’s life better. Enjoy your lasagna.
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I can tackle a few as time permits.
Economics is my background we can start there... later that is.
 
Duskey said:
If it makes you feel better call him what you like. You have my blessings.
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It's disturbing how far Trump supporters will go to paint him what he isn't.

If you want to defne words to suit your crooked agenda, it just goes to show how dishonest you are.

As if nobody can be a businessman and a politician at the same time! Too funny. Yet sadly, unamusing.
 
EleventhHour said:
I do have to go make lasagna, but if you now about chess every move has various and many counter moves.

That sounds like what the CPP tyrants did to the protesters in Tiananmen Square in 1989, so you want a tyrant in office who forces his will upon the people.

If your country does away with due process it will have assaulted liberty far more than any mask mandated.

I am not able to deal with these things on such a black and white level as you do... off to make my lasagna, Frank is getting hungry. LOL
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Translation: I support evil anarchists who burn down cities. The civil rights of the innocent be damned! Not surprised.
 
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Magenta said:
It's disturbing how far Trump supporters will go to paint him what he isn't.

If you want to defne words to suit your crooked agenda, it just goes to show how dishonest you are.
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What’s crooked about my agenda and how am I being dishonest? You’re trying to pigeonhole someone because of a position they have rather than how they conduct themselves in that position. PS, please encourage Bob to give us that list of ten lies spoken by President Trump. Much appreciated. Thanks.
 
Duskey said:
Translation: I support evil anarchists who burn down cities. The civil rights of the innocent be damned! Not surprised.

Oh yeah, you’re little laughing face says everything anyone needs to know about you when you’re hit with the truth. Do you always laugh in utter ignorance when schooled with the truth?
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It was meant to be a happy face for the "enjoy your lasagna" which I fixed.
Because I WILL enjoy my lasagna my mom taught to make it just right.

As to your first statement I can see you are caught in dichotomous thinking, not possible to reason with this mindset, this mindset will lead to the destruction of the USA and planned so well probably by CCP the very enemies of the state.

Truly sad what lack of information does.

Nothing for us to discuss.
Okay have a good day.
 
Duskey said:
What’s crooked about my agenda and how am I being dishonest? You’re trying to pigeonhole someone because of a position they have rather than how they conduct themselves in that position. PS, please encourage Bob to give us that list of ten lies spoken by President Trump. Much appreciated. Thanks.
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You are the one Pidgeon-holing him by claiming he is not a politician when he is.

As if nobody can be a businessman and a politician at the same time! Too funny. Yet sadly, unamusing.

You do yourself no favors trying to redefine words to suit your crooked agenda.

And the fact you cannot see it as dishonest is also disturbing.
 
UnoiAmarah said:
Simply stated, see John 14:26
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That still dosn't answer my question. The most confusing part were the words from the beginning. We didn't receive the Holy Spirit from the beginning. We had to become Christians first. We weren't born Christians. We had to come to believe in our hearts and ask for forgiveness first. That's why your statement confused me.

Another question is why do you quoting verses and not paragraphs and or passages?
 
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Wrong on Ventilators and the Stockpile. Trump repeatedly made the false claim that he inherited a Strategic National Stockpile with “empty” or “bare” cupboards and that “we weren’t left ventilators by a previous administration.” In fact, we learned in June from the Department of Health and Human Services that the federal government had more ventilators in stock, left from previous administrations, than it had distributed during the pandemic.

The Strategic National Stockpile had 16,660 ventilators, none bought by the Trump administration, when it began distributing the machines in March. On June 17, an HHS spokesperson said the government had distributed 10,640 ventilators up to that point during the coronavirus outbreak.

As for other medical supplies in the stockpile, the government doesn’t publicly report on the contents, but the repository, before Trump took office, reportedly contained vast amounts of materials, including vaccines against bioterrorism agents like smallpox, antivirals in case of a deadly flu pandemic, and protective gear for doctors and nurses.

Source
 
Magenta said:
You are the one Pidgeon-holing him by claiming he is not a politician when he is.

As if nobody can be a businessman and a politician at the same time! Too funny. Yet sadly, unamusing.

You do yourself no favors trying to redefine words to suit your crooked agenda.

And the fact you cannot see it as dishonest is also disturbing.
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Sorry. I put whoever you are talking to on ignore. Some people are so far right if they were in traffic, they'd be running over pedestrians. People that far out of the normal channels. That if they were they would think that most folks traveling in the main stream are lost. I hope they realize that they are traveling among unseen obstacles and shipwrecks are more likely so far away from safer, more traveled currents or waters.
 
Magenta said:
It's disturbing how far Trump supporters will go to paint him what he isn't.

If you want to defne words to suit your crooked agenda, it just goes to show how dishonest you are.

As if nobody can be a businessman and a politician at the same time! Too funny. Yet sadly, unamusing.
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There is no doubt Trump is playing politics he is forced to do so he has no choice.
The salient question is: Is Trump the enemy of the country and the people? Or he is he fighting for them and putting their best interests first?

The answer should be obvious to everyone and anyone. The fact that the internal and external enemies of America hate Trump should speak volumes.
 
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