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eternally-gratefull

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Blackpowderduelist said:
At least he is able to spot the poison of this man.
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Poison? What did this man state that would Hurt believers? or the church? If anything, it helped people understand some basic truths that are lost in translation
 
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eternally-gratefull

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bud62 said:
Some one that is NOT A CHRISTIAN, Is not working FOR YESUAH, THERE is no middle GROUND, YESUAH SAY IF YOU are NOT FOR ME YOU ARE AGAINST, YESUAH makes it VERY PLAIN. IF we are not working for YESUAH then WE are working AGAINST YESUAH,
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I am not sure your christian. I do not assume things not do I judge

but much of what you teach is more dangerous than anything this man said,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#23
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pottersclay said:
And so this jew working with christians for a better understanding of the word of God is against God?
Yet you cling to a Saturday worship being only exceptable to God. Is that christian or hebrew concept?

I caution myself and pray before I listen to anything that pertains to God. I would not post anything that I thought of no value or misleading.
1000 of yrs of history and the Jewish people don't know what there talking about? Amazing.
God enables paul a Sanhedrin jew to preach to the gentiles ? You have to ask yourself why ? Why a jew?
Don't you realize that the jews want nothing more than for Messiah to come? Is this against God?
What do we want? I believe the same thing wouldn't you agree?
Your sentiments are the flavor of anti-semitism that has distance the church from there hebrew roots.
If you think jesus started a new religion...a new way to serve God ...then you are as lost as can be and I pray you find the path.
Judaism did not fail...the jews failed Judaism. God's instructions of worship not man's.
The law is perfect but left no means of escape...this is what the good news is all about.
The shadows all point to jesus ....the same jesus we have been blessed to come to know.
Yet people like you poke at those who have been blinded for a time untill our time is ended.
Instead of helping those that are blinded to walk and see your position is to discard them...kick them to the curb sorta speak.
Do not the scriptures say "he who has started a good work is faithful and just to finish"?
God created the hebrew, God gave them the law, God gave them the feast and offerings not man.
So if God started that good work is he not able to finish?
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One thing you have to remember, is the man in the video destroyed the Hebrew roots movement,

so we can expect that would be against him
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#24
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CS1 said:
This guy has many presuppositions to suggest Greek Jews who did not know what the word Lord was in Hebrew was a big stretch. The reason why is really just one and Jesus read from it known as the Septuagint. mark in the video @ 27:00 min wrong sir,
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the guys stated numerous times YHWH was translated to Adonai, meaning lord. Only three times was it translated correctly.

I would have to research this to see if it was true, and if it is, it should be investigated as to why
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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#25
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eternally-gratefull said:
Poison? What did this man state that would Hurt believers? or the church? If anything, it helped people understand some basic truths that are lost in translation
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Veiled advocating of returning to torah law.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Blackpowderduelist said:
Veiled advocating of returning to torah law.
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No what he did was state that judaism for Israelis not the oral law. But the torah. And how phariseeism is what we all thought it was,

I heard nothing of him telling Christians to follow Old Testament law
 
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#27
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eternally-gratefull said:
No what he did was state that judaism for Israelis not the oral law. But the torah. And how phariseeism is what we all thought it was,

I heard nothing of him telling Christians to follow Old Testament law
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Because you weren't listening
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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SophieT said:
I really am not a video watcher but I am curious. At which point did he advocate a return to OT law? I watched some but not all.

Thanks
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First he presumed to tell us what our definition of who Jesus is and then he corrected what he stated was our ideal. The rest of his points were how what Jesus meant by what he said. Implying that Jesus only said to reject the pharisees tradition, but not the law. This guy was quite subtle, but a snake none the less.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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eternally-gratefull said:
Or maybe you heard what you wanted to hear
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No, you weren't listening. He tickled your ear with the prospect of secret knowledge, and turned your mind off with the face on the screen mind that has been cultivated for generations.
 
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#32
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Blackpowderduelist said:
First he presumed to tell us what our definition of who Jesus is and then he corrected what he stated was our ideal. The rest of his points were how what Jesus meant by what he said. Implying that Jesus only said to reject the pharisees tradition, but not the law. This guy was quite subtle, but a snake none the less.
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Wow, amazing that others did not see any of this..

I never heard him try to tell us what our defenition was, what I saw him do was try to differentiate between the Greek jesus and the Hebrew yeshua. Same person, different names and appears they different views.
again I think you got out of it what you wanted to
 
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#33
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Blackpowderduelist said:
No, you weren't listening. He tickled your ear with the prospect of secret knowledge, and turned your mind off with the face on the screen mind that has been cultivated for generations.
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He did not tickle anything my friend

however you heard things he never said. And thinks is telling christians to return to law. So your nitpicking things to discredit him

he Is not a believer, of this I have no doubt. But I am not going to put in his mouth things he never said
 
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SophieT

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#34
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Blackpowderduelist said:
First he presumed to tell us what our definition of who Jesus is and then he corrected what he stated was our ideal. The rest of his points were how what Jesus meant by what he said. Implying that Jesus only said to reject the pharisees tradition, but not the law. This guy was quite subtle, but a snake none the less.
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uhhh

I'm really not getting that? I'm clear on before and after Jesus Death. Maybe I will listen to all of it after all.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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CS1 said:
I disagree with this person His Matthew 23 context is not taking into account chapter 24 and 25. which 23 was the prelude to the Olivet Discourse. TO follow the Law you need a Temple, that was torn down and there is not one anymore.

also MATTHEW 23 HE TAKES OUT OF CONTEXT WHAT JESUS SAID VERSE 3

“Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Jesus is setting up the "woes" to these leaders of the law. Jesus at the very end tell them something very troubling in verse 39

“for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD!’
Jesus is still a jew and yet in Matthew 23 suffered on the cross and died and rose again.
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So you saw straight through this guy too.
Good for you.
 
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SophieT

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#37
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eternally-gratefull said:
He did not tickle anything my friend

however you heard things he never said. And thinks is telling christians to return to law. So your nitpicking things to discredit him

he Is not a believer, of this I have no doubt. But I am not going to put in his mouth things he never said
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He never said he was a believer. The opposite in fact. I'm puzzled
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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#38
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SophieT said:
uhhh

I'm really not getting that? I'm clear on before and after Jesus Death. Maybe I will listen to all of it after all.
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He delineates between the greek understanding of Jesus and the Jewish Jesus. And says our scripture is about a greek Jesus. Then he goes on to clarify who jewish Jesus is. Then he sets up.o dichotomy between pharisee's traditions and the law of Moses.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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#39
#39
The first red flag is a Jewish man comes to aid Christians to understand who Jesus is, while not believing in him as anything more than a historical person.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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#40
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Second red flag, tells us what our understanding of Jesus is (imposing on us a wrong understanding), and then knocks that understanding down and replaces it with the one he wants us to have.
 
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