If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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KJV1611

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bud62 said:
The ole Covenant was wrote in stone, the new covenant HE writes them on OUR HEARTS. same laws,
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I'm asking you if you think anybody on this earth today is still under the covenant God made between himself and Israel.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Do you think the Old Covenant is still in play?
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The new covenant to him just seems to be the 10 commandments from the old covenant law re-packaged (with a heavy emphasis on the 4th commandment)
 
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KJV1611 said:
I'm asking you if you think anybody on this earth today is still under the covenant God made between himself and Israel.
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that is key to their beliefs - they do not recognize the Mosaic Covenant being between God and Israel.

they think it is all inclusive, for the whole world.
 
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bud62 said:
The ole Covenant was wrote in stone, the new covenant HE writes them on OUR HEARTS. same laws,
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Dr. Frank Turek has some interesting videos on YouTube with regards to the commandant of keeping the Sabbath holy. If you get a chance, check them out. He also has other material that is really good if you’re into Christian apologetics.
 
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bud62 said:
who YESUAH WAS
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just an aside, this is kind of bad language.

Jesus is -- He's not in past tense.

in John 5:17 He is
bud62 said:
HE was not working for HIS self but was working for the FATHER, is what we are to do on THE SABBATH
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So work on sabbath is fine, right?
Doesn't sound like 'letter of the law' to me.

Colossians 3:23-24
And whatever you do, do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance; for you serve the Lord Christ.

Following this, what is 'not fine' on the sabbath - if we were under law - anything?
Anything different about Tuesdays?

Jesus says the Father is working. As though the 'rest' on the Genesis 7th day isn't something God does every seventh day but was peculiar to creation.
Shouldn't we emulate Him? How?
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no, i will not be repenting of believing Scripture as written and not believing man's ( yours) opinions.
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REVELATION 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Ether you don't believe all the BIBLE, or you think that you can pick out just what you like, Ether way I stll hope you do repent And obey GOD'S Commandments, They wouldn't be Commandments unless we HAD to KEEP THEM
 
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Aerials1978 said:
Dr. Frank Turek has some interesting videos on YouTube with regards to the commandant of keeping the Sabbath holy. If you get a chance, check them out. He also has other material that is really good if you’re into Christian apologetics.
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IGOT THE true word of GOD and that is enough for me, Satan is working to destroy GOD'S commandments, Satan knows that if HE can GET US to BREAK GOD'S commandments, that WE will not be aloud in Heaven for doing the same thing that HE done to GET throwed out of Heaven, And GOD does not Change,
 
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Aerials1978 said:
Dr. Frank Turek has some interesting videos on YouTube with regards to the commandant of keeping the Sabbath holy. If you get a chance, check them out. He also has other material that is really good if you’re into Christian apologetics.
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Please excuse my misspelled word. Auto-correct works against me at times.
 
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bud62 said:
IGOT THE true word of GOD and that is enough for me, Satan is working to destroy GOD'S commandments, Satan knows that if HE can GET US to BREAK GOD'S commandments, that WE will not be aloud in Heaven for doing the same thing that HE done to GET throwed out of Heaven, And GOD does not Change,
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What happens if you already broken the commandments as we all have?
 
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bud62 said:
IGOT THE true word of GOD and that is enough for me, Satan is working to destroy GOD'S commandments, Satan knows that if HE can GET US to BREAK GOD'S commandments, that WE will not be aloud in Heaven for doing the same thing that HE done to GET throwed out of Heaven, And GOD does not Change,
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Galatians 2:20-21 :)
 
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bud62 said:
REVELATION 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.
22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
Ether you don't believe all the BIBLE, or you think that you can pick out just what you like, Ether way I stll hope you do repent And obey GOD'S Commandments, They wouldn't be Commandments unless we HAD to KEEP THEM
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and i hope come to fully trust Christ for salvation, and stop pushing " keep the Sabbath to be part of the Kingdom" garbage.
 
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and i hope come to fully trust Christ for salvation, and stop pushing " keep the Sabbath to be part of the Kingdom" garbage.
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Do you know that they are going to even keep the Sabbath in the NEW EARTH, THE BIBLE does tell us that they are going to, the Sabbath is A lot more important then you think !!!
 
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bud62 said:
Do you know that they are going to even keep the Sabbath in the NEW EARTH, THE BIBLE does tell us that they are going to, the Sabbath is A lot more important then you think !!!
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missing the point.

the center of a Christian's belief system should be Jesus.

if the center of a belief system is something else, like yours is the Sabbath, then that is a invalid system.

Jesus saves, the Sabbath does not.
 
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If the powers of this world ask us to observe a Sabbath for the common good (environment, health, social and religious reasons), will you keep Sunday holy and worship the pagan sun God, and man made traditions?
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Seems like a "when did you stop beating your wife"? question to me.
 
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bud62 said:
There is all kinds of proof that it was the sacrificial laws, if you do away with GOD'S commandments, there wouldn't be no sinners even, we wouldn't even need a savior. sin is why we have the death sentence, If there is no law, that means that there is no sin, and that means that we don't need a savior, That is A lie OF Satan, to try to get GOD'S saints to sin, and break their part of their Covenant with GOD, by sinning
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Your argument is circular. While you raise a reasonable point that "without law, there is no sin", you are overlooking Romans 5:13 which says, "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law."
 
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gb9 said:
missing the point.

the center of a Christian's belief system should be Jesus.

if the center of a belief system is something else, like yours is the Sabbath, then that is a invalid system.

Jesus saves, the Sabbath does not.
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You are wrong THE Sabbath is all ABOUT CHRIST AND HIS creation
 
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