ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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PennEd

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From Wikipedia;
The name was first used by Raphaël Dubois who invented the words luciferin and luciferase, for the substrate and enzyme, respectively. ... Both words are derived from the Latin word Lucifer – meaning lightbearer.

So there is technology being developed to tattoo under your skin using ink made of luciferase which will glow under infrared. I assume each vaccine injection device would leave a unique tattoo thus marking one as having had that vaccine.

The name for the ink being derived from the word Lucifer is disturbing. Maybe it will be the technology that is behind the mark in Revelation but this technology is not in use yet and should not scare people from taking a safe vaccine. It is not ready or approved for use yet and will not be used in COVID vaccines this coming year.

It is not logical to reject all vaccines because there is technology like this being developed. And the only thing I find disturbing about it is the name given to this chemical. I would not take a vaccine that included a tattoo even it were called "pure ink" as I don't like the idea of any kind of a tattoo on or under my skin. Now to find out that the ink being tested is called luciferase is that much more disturbing. I would definitely pass on the vaccine that includes the tattoo, but not on the vaccine by itself.

And at this time there are no vaccines that use this tattoo device. So everyone can relax.
I appreciate your concession that this is disturbing. A couple of points however.

I might be able to find again a scientist who described the chemical compounds and genetic structure of the vaccine. He broke them down and explained how they affect your pineal gland in the brain. Depleting certain chemical elements responsible for emotions like compassion, empathy, and even love. ( Brings to mind "the love of many will grow cold"). You may have heard about how MDMA (Ecstasy/Molly) does a similar thing in the brain. Only this will be on a genetic level.

So even though NOW you say you would get the vaccine, but wouldn't agree to some type of bio tracking, AFTER you take the vaccine you'll change your mind.
It is very difficult to navigate searches on most platforms, Ie.. Google, YouTube, Facebook etc.. So I'll try and find it again.
 
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I appreciate your concession that this is disturbing. A couple of points however.

I might be able to find again a scientist who described the chemical compounds and genetic structure of the vaccine. He broke them down and explained how they affect your pineal gland in the brain. Depleting certain chemical elements responsible for emotions like compassion, empathy, and even love. ( Brings to mind "the love of many will grow cold"). You may have heard about how MDMA (Ecstasy/Molly) does a similar thing in the brain. Only this will be on a genetic level.

So even though NOW you say you would get the vaccine, but wouldn't agree to some type of bio tracking, AFTER you take the vaccine you'll change your mind.
It is very difficult to navigate searches on most platforms, Ie.. Google, YouTube, Facebook etc.. So I'll try and find it again.
So you're willing to take one scientist view that this mind altering thing will happen but not the safety tests results and evaluation of the scientists of the world at large? When the FDA approves after the examination of the science and the safety testing of 40,000 for each vaccine being submitted for approval, would there not be some discussion of this mind altering adverse affect in the data? Something like that would be demonstrable in the lab. It could not be swept under the rug. Too many eyes are on these safety testing right now.
 
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So you're willing to take one scientist view that this mind altering thing will happen but not the safety tests results and evaluation of the scientists of the world at large? When the FDA approves after the examination of the science and the safety testing of 40,000 for each vaccine being submitted for approval, would there not be some discussion of this mind altering adverse affect in the data? Something like that would be demonstrable in the lab. It could not be swept under the rug. Too many eyes are on these safety testing right now.
Also, there are three vaccines proven 90 percent effective in 3 phase testing and about to be submitted for approval, and more coming after them. Two are mRNA vaccines but the other is more like the traditional technology and uses the method of growing virus cultures. The mind altering theory cannot be about all of them. My guess is that it is an attempt to discredit mRNA.

If I had the choice to take the traditional vaccine method or the mRNA method I would have a hard time deciding. I like what I read about mRNA but the fact that it is new technology makes me hesitate. My natural reaction is to wait for a few years. If the mRNA is available to me first and the traditional vaccine is not out yet I will take the mRNA because I want to get protection ASAP.

I see the risk of becoming severely ill with COVID as much greater statistically right now. I am a realist.
 

Ahwatukee

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From Wikipedia;
The name was first used by Raphaël Dubois who invented the words luciferin and luciferase, for the substrate and enzyme, respectively. ... Both words are derived from the Latin word Lucifer – meaning lightbearer.

So there is technology being developed to tattoo under your skin using ink made of luciferase which will glow under infrared. I assume each vaccine injection device would leave a unique tattoo thus marking one as having had that vaccine.

The name for the ink being derived from the word Lucifer is disturbing. Maybe it will be the technology that is behind the mark in Revelation but this technology is not in use yet and should not scare people from taking a safe vaccine. It is not ready or approved for use yet and will not be used in COVID vaccines this coming year.

It is not logical to reject all vaccines because there is technology like this being developed. And the only thing I find disturbing about it is the name given to this chemical. I would not take a vaccine that included a tattoo even it were called "pure ink" as I don't like the idea of any kind of a tattoo on or under my skin. Now to find out that the ink being tested is called luciferase is that much more disturbing. I would definitely pass on the vaccine that includes the tattoo, but not on the vaccine by itself.

And at this time there are no vaccines that use this tattoo device. So everyone can relax.
Whatever the mark is, what will remain consistent is that it will go either on the hand or the forehead. I can't imagine anyone receiving a vaccine in the forehead. The other characteristic of the mark is that without it no one will be able to buy or sell. Regarding this, we already have the literal meaning of this mark technology taking place via those videos that I provided in a previous post, which shows people having an RFID chip implanted under the skin between the thumb and the index finger. Currently, people in Sweden are already being implanted and using that chip to make purchases. So we have a match for both the location of the mark and its purpose.

However, as I stated in previous posts, that mark of the beast technology will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable. And as previously stated, what will remain consistent is that whatever this device evolves into, it will remain on/in the hand or the forehead.

It will replace card swiping and all other forms of buying and selling, so that during the time of the beast, it will be the only way to perform any crediting or debiting (buying and selling), because all other methods will be obsolete. This is how the second beast/false prophet is going to "cause all both great and small, rich and poor, free and slave" to receive the mark, by removing cash, checks, debit and credit cards and everything else.

To use a silly comparison, it would be like living in a place where there is only one cable company. You either subscribe to their cable or you don't have cable at all. The same will be true during that time, unless you have the mark, you won't be able to credit and debit your account. You wouldn't be able to be apart of the world economic system. The mark will be like that proverbial line being drawn in the sand. It will cause each person to make a personal choice to receive it or reject it, which is God's purpose for it. It will separate those who will not love their lives more than God, form those who love their lives more than God. Those who reject the mark, will be those saints who come out of the great tribulation introduced in Revelation 7:9-17.
 

PennEd

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So you're willing to take one scientist view that this mind altering thing will happen but not the safety tests results and evaluation of the scientists of the world at large?
Yes. Especially since he's Christian.

Just like I don't take the word of the vast majority of scientists on a whole host of issues.

Numero UNO being Evolution. Do you accept the vast consensus of scientists that say the science is settled on Evolution?
 

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I might be able to find again a scientist who described the chemical compounds and genetic structure of the vaccine. He broke them down and explained how they affect your pineal gland in the brain. Depleting certain chemical elements responsible for emotions like compassion, empathy, and even love. ( Brings to mind "the love of many will grow cold"). You may have heard about how MDMA (Ecstasy/Molly) does a similar thing in the brain. Only this will be on a genetic level.
The pineal gland is very interesting, in part because it is so light sensitive :unsure: Apparently excessive fluoride also affects the proper functioning of this gland (which has been called the seat of consciousness) through calcification.
 
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Yes. Especially since he's Christian.

Just like I don't take the word of the vast majority of scientists on a whole host of issues.

Numero UNO being Evolution. Do you accept the vast consensus of scientists that say the science is settled on Evolution?
That is not the same as analyzing things under microscopes and chemistry etc. Observable science is from God. And so observing nature is simply observing how creation works and or how it is broken in some cases. This theory of mind altering must be able to be proven in the lab or it is just a theory and not science just like evolution. If he can demonstrate it in a lab all scientists will agree with his findings and we will have a halt to the vaccine because it has failed in the safety testing.

If he is just theorizing something and it needs to be tested then time will tell if he is making a mistake or not in his hypothesis. I think he should test it out. It would be a service to mankind if he can prove his theory and halt the vaccine before it turns us all into drones.

However, the love of many will wax cold, not because of a vaccine doing shenanigans on our brain glands but because iniquity will abound.
1And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
 
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A better reason to refuse the vaccine is the aborted children used to develope it. I haven't researched that but heard it on a radio program.
 
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A better reason to refuse the vaccine is the aborted children used to develope it. I haven't researched that but heard it on a radio program.
It's not true. mRNA vaccines (Moderna, and Pfyzer) don't use virus cultures and they don't require using cloned cells.

The Flu vaccine uses this classic vaccine technology but they don't use human cells either, they use chicken or some use other animal cells from livers. Also it these cells are not injected they are only used in the process of development. The antigens are used in the vaccines which are more like proteins but you should google it because I am liable to explain it wrong.

There are many vaccines historically that have used cloned cells that were first used from 2 aborted fetuses , one male, one female in the 1960s. These have been cloned since then and cultures are used to develop vaccines with these cloned human cells. But not all vaccines and not the first 3 COVID vaccines coming out of the gate.

If you are considering any vaccine you can read about how it is developed. Some are developed using "ethically derived" cells.

The bottom line...,mRNA don't use any cells, human or animals nor do they use virus cultures so if someone says to avoid mRNA vaccines because they have virus parts, baby cells, or mercury, they are ignorantly spewing stupidity and you would not want them to baby sit your kids. They are too stupid to baby sit your kids.

If someone says mRNA will change your DNA they are also making stuff up because they know that if they use any of the old antivaccine rhetoric that don't apply to mRNA they will look like stupid idiots so they are making up new lies. "there must never be a safe effective vaccine that protects people" This must not be allowed!!!
 
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Fetal tissue of aborted babies, a luminescence enzyme called ‘Lucifer’ase, dna altering nanoparticales, Ya, I’m not taking the vax. I was born human, I’ll die human. Plus, Satan wants to make the temple of god desolate and the temple isn’t some third temple built by the hands of man, but our bodies, where the Holy Spirit dwells. Transhumanism. Blurring the line between man and woman, transgenderism, as well as the promotion of homosexuality (remember Sodom?) were just the beginning. We fight a spiritual battle that does manifest into the physical and we see it taking place all around us. The pride flag? Pride parades, etc. pride being the sin that caused Lucifer to rebel against the Most High to begin with. The whole ‘conspiracy theory’ term should never come off a christian’s lips. Why? Because conspiracy is all around us. Conspiracy means ‘to conspire.’ And that is just what Lucifer/Satan has been doing since he first rebelled against the Most High. One conspiracy after another. Over and over again. Tricking man kind, who was made in God’s image, because God loved us so much. He hates God, and by reflection, hates man kind. He conspired against God by getting to us, dragging one soul down after another. And here we are fighting against one another. The information for the key words I listed above, I’ll let you decide if you choose to research for yourself or not. I’ve been looking into this vaccine for a while. If the world wants it, I do not. I’m in the world, I am not of it. I choose to be set apart from the world, like my Lord Jesus Christ was and still is. If I get ridiculed and persecuted for it, so be it. I only pray that it’s not by those who claim to also be of the Body. Remember, if the world wants something, be wary of it. The world wants this vaccine. And I fear God alone, not this ‘virus,’ not man. I’m trying to stay clear of putting unnatural things in my body. I haven’t gotten a flu shot and honestly, this year has been the healthiest I have been. Why? Because I’m not afraid of this, I put my trust in God, in Christ, and I’m not ashamed of God’s given oxygen or immune system. Stop being afraid. God doesn’t give us the spirit of fear.
 
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Fetal tissue of aborted babies, a luminescence enzyme called ‘Lucifer’ase, dna altering nanoparticales, Ya, I’m not taking the vax. I was born human, I’ll die human. Plus, Satan wants to make the temple of god desolate and the temple isn’t some third temple built by the hands of man, but our bodies, where the Holy Spirit dwells. Transhumanism. Blurring the line between man and woman, transgenderism, as well as the promotion of homosexuality (remember Sodom?) were just the beginning. We fight a spiritual battle that does manifest into the physical and we see it taking place all around us. The pride flag? Pride parades, etc. pride being the sin that caused Lucifer to rebel against the Most High to begin with. The whole ‘conspiracy theory’ term should never come off a christian’s lips. Why? Because conspiracy is all around us. Conspiracy means ‘to conspire.’ And that is just what Lucifer/Satan has been doing since he first rebelled against the Most High. One conspiracy after another. Over and over again. Tricking man kind, who was made in God’s image, because God loved us so much. He hates God, and by reflection, hates man kind. He conspired against God by getting to us, dragging one soul down after another. And here we are fighting against one another. The information for the key words I listed above, I’ll let you decide if you choose to research for yourself or not. I’ve been looking into this vaccine for a while. If the world wants it, I do not. I’m in the world, I am not of it. I choose to be set apart from the world, like my Lord Jesus Christ was and still is. If I get ridiculed and persecuted for it, so be it. I only pray that it’s not by those who claim to also be of the Body. Remember, if the world wants something, be wary of it. The world wants this vaccine. And I fear God alone, not this ‘virus,’ not man. I’m trying to stay clear of putting unnatural things in my body. I haven’t gotten a flu shot and honestly, this year has been the healthiest I have been. Why? Because I’m not afraid of this, I put my trust in God, in Christ, and I’m not ashamed of God’s given oxygen or immune system. Stop being afraid. God doesn’t give us the spirit of fear.
My only reply is that if someone tells you that the Moderna mRNA vaccine uses human embryo cells, or any cells, or uses the quatum dot tatto tracking methods still under developement, it would mean they did not read about how the Moderna mRNA works and they don't know what they are talking about.
They have that right, but the downside of that is when they attempt to interpret scriptures they will not be listened to or viewed as knowing what they are talking about.
Facts do matter.
 
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It's not true. mRNA vaccines (Moderna, and Pfyzer) don't use virus cultures and they don't require using cloned cells.

The Flu vaccine uses this classic vaccine technology but they don't use human cells either, they use chicken or some use other animal cells from livers. Also it these cells are not injected they are only used in the process of development. The antigens are used in the vaccines which are more like proteins but you should google it because I am liable to explain it wrong.

There are many vaccines historically that have used cloned cells that were first used from 2 aborted fetuses , one male, one female in the 1960s. These have been cloned since then and cultures are used to develop vaccines with these cloned human cells. But not all vaccines and not the first 3 COVID vaccines coming out of the gate.

If you are considering any vaccine you can read about how it is developed. Some are developed using "ethically derived" cells.

The bottom line...,mRNA don't use any cells, human or animals nor do they use virus cultures so if someone says to avoid mRNA vaccines because they have virus parts, baby cells, or mercury, they are ignorantly spewing stupidity and you would not want them to baby sit your kids. They are too stupid to baby sit your kids.

If someone says mRNA will change your DNA they are also making stuff up because they know that if they use any of the old antivaccine rhetoric that don't apply to mRNA they will look like stupid idiots so they are making up new lies. "there must never be a safe effective vaccine that protects people" This must not be allowed!!!
Thank you Scribe. Good launching pad. Shoot I don't need to research now. The babysitter thing cracked me up. Grace and peace to you.
 
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My only reply is that if someone tells you that the Moderna mRNA vaccine uses human embryo cells, or any cells, or uses the quatum dot tatto tracking methods still under developement, it would mean they did not read about how the Moderna mRNA works and they don't know what they are talking about.
They have that right, but the downside of that is when they attempt to interpret scriptures they will not be listened to or viewed as knowing what they are talking about.
Facts do matter.
So to summarize what you are saying; you put your trust in these doctors, when they are being funded by Bill Gates, who has even stated that depopulation is the way to go, amongst others who share his same vision? The world is wicked and have shown to have little to no love for our Savior or our Father in Heaven and you place your faith, your health in their hands? I won’t take the vaccine. I have refused the test even and I have only had a mild head cold all head. I’ll choose Christ over this world any day. Those who are developing it are not on our side. Not on God’s side. Plus, if the vaccine was good for us, on top of everything else that you are simply dismissing, why would the military be needed to administer it? Vaccines usually take years to develop but this one is considered a ‘new technology.’ And no bells are going off in your head? I don’t trust it, and it’s not going in my body. But, God gave us free will, so the decision is your own if you take it. I will not. And this late in the game the information on fetal tissue, Luciferase in the vaccine might have been taken down, but it was up and many Christians had seen it. I’ve done my research and I know the vaccine is dangerous. But it’s up to you rather you do your own digging. First, stop watching mainstream news. They all read from the same ‘script’ anyway. Yes, Fox News also. Left wing, Right wing, same bird. If you believe the vaccine is safe, does that also mean you don’t believe in witchcraft, magic, spell casting? The Bible speaks of these things and to God, they are an abomination. But rather you want to believe it or not, pagan Rome is alive and well and has taken over the world. Wake up already! This world is not what it seems. There is more ‘truth’ in Hollywood fiction than in the news. Pray, ask God to reveal to you the truths of this world. Satan has his claws in everything, including Health. We battle not agains flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers in high places. And what are these powers and principalities? Satan, his angels and demons. And also, did you know that ‘holly wood’ is the type of wood that witches used to craft their wands from? Some food for thought. Anyway, it’s up to you if you want to see just how wicked this world is and how close we are to Jesus’s return. Again, I will not take the vaccine.
 

PennEd

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So to summarize what you are saying; you put your trust in these doctors, when they are being funded by Bill Gates, who has even stated that depopulation is the way to go, amongst others who share his same vision? The world is wicked and have shown to have little to no love for our Savior or our Father in Heaven and you place your faith, your health in their hands? I won’t take the vaccine. I have refused the test even and I have only had a mild head cold all head. I’ll choose Christ over this world any day. Those who are developing it are not on our side. Not on God’s side. Plus, if the vaccine was good for us, on top of everything else that you are simply dismissing, why would the military be needed to administer it? Vaccines usually take years to develop but this one is considered a ‘new technology.’ And no bells are going off in your head? I don’t trust it, and it’s not going in my body. But, God gave us free will, so the decision is your own if you take it. I will not. And this late in the game the information on fetal tissue, Luciferase in the vaccine might have been taken down, but it was up and many Christians had seen it. I’ve done my research and I know the vaccine is dangerous. But it’s up to you rather you do your own digging. First, stop watching mainstream news. They all read from the same ‘script’ anyway. Yes, Fox News also. Left wing, Right wing, same bird. If you believe the vaccine is safe, does that also mean you don’t believe in witchcraft, magic, spell casting? The Bible speaks of these things and to God, they are an abomination. But rather you want to believe it or not, pagan Rome is alive and well and has taken over the world. Wake up already! This world is not what it seems. There is more ‘truth’ in Hollywood fiction than in the news. Pray, ask God to reveal to you the truths of this world. Satan has his claws in everything, including Health. We battle not agains flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers in high places. And what are these powers and principalities? Satan, his angels and demons. And also, did you know that ‘holly wood’ is the type of wood that witches used to craft their wands from? Some food for thought. Anyway, it’s up to you if you want to see just how wicked this world is and how close we are to Jesus’s return. Again, I will not take the vaccine.
Young lady, I‘d love to like and agree with your posts.

The wall of text is too daunting for me to get past the first couple sentences.

please use paragraphs.
 

PennEd

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Young lady, I‘d love to like and agree with your posts.

The wall of text is too daunting for me to get past the first couple sentences.

please use paragraphs.
Oh. And Happy Birthday! 1606398128518.png
 
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So to summarize what you are saying; you put your trust in these doctors, when they are being funded by Bill Gates, who has even stated that depopulation is the way to go, amongst others who share his same vision? The world is wicked and have shown to have little to no love for our Savior or our Father in Heaven and you place your faith, your health in their hands? I won’t take the vaccine. I have refused the test even and I have only had a mild head cold all head. I’ll choose Christ over this world any day. Those who are developing it are not on our side. Not on God’s side. Plus, if the vaccine was good for us, on top of everything else that you are simply dismissing, why would the military be needed to administer it? Vaccines usually take years to develop but this one is considered a ‘new technology.’ And no bells are going off in your head? I don’t trust it, and it’s not going in my body. But, God gave us free will, so the decision is your own if you take it. I will not. And this late in the game the information on fetal tissue, Luciferase in the vaccine might have been taken down, but it was up and many Christians had seen it. I’ve done my research and I know the vaccine is dangerous. But it’s up to you rather you do your own digging. First, stop watching mainstream news. They all read from the same ‘script’ anyway. Yes, Fox News also. Left wing, Right wing, same bird. If you believe the vaccine is safe, does that also mean you don’t believe in witchcraft, magic, spell casting? The Bible speaks of these things and to God, they are an abomination. But rather you want to believe it or not, pagan Rome is alive and well and has taken over the world. Wake up already! This world is not what it seems. There is more ‘truth’ in Hollywood fiction than in the news. Pray, ask God to reveal to you the truths of this world. Satan has his claws in everything, including Health. We battle not agains flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers in high places. And what are these powers and principalities? Satan, his angels and demons. And also, did you know that ‘holly wood’ is the type of wood that witches used to craft their wands from? Some food for thought. Anyway, it’s up to you if you want to see just how wicked this world is and how close we are to Jesus’s return. Again, I will not take the vaccine.
Digging? Start with reading about how the mRNA vaccine works. Your posts make it obvious that you have not.
You are free to believe whatever you wish, but please do not suggest that Christians should follow your ignorance.
It is not a character of Christianity to lie and make false claims, false accusations, and refuse to fact check and educate oneself. This is the character of the belligerently ignorant fool.
 
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You are free to believe whatever you wish, but please do not suggest that Christians should follow your ignorance. It is not a character of Christianity to lie and make false claims, false accusations, and refuse to fact check and educate oneself. This is the character of the belligerently ignorant fool.
You would do well to follow your own advice. :) Remember Matthew 7:5

"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. "
 
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You would do well to follow your own advice. :) Remember Matthew 7:5

"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. "
go away kid, you're bothering me.
 
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"You've got to ask yourself a question: 'do I feel lucky? ' Well, do ya, punk?" :)
Are we doing movie quotes then?
“A good conspiracy is unprovable. I mean, if you can prove it, it means they screwed up somewhere along the line.”
MEL GIBSON
 
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