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EleventhHour

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A source that cannot be verified. But being in medicine doesn't necessarily mean dealing with viruses. Also just because one medical personnel says what you expect to hear doesn't mean they hold the only view.

As a Christian one of our famous skeptics is Richard Dawkins who is a British ethologist, and evolutionary biologist. He is an emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford, and was the University of Oxford's Professor for Public Understanding of Science from 1995 until 2008.

He is a devout atheist and looks at the same evidence in biology as an ID scientist or creationist. But he says it supports macroevolution while the other two looking at the same evidence sees something different.
You lack objectivity sir.

The authors of the research you posted for the most part were not virologists or epidemiologists.
Anyway, you just want your findings accepted without understanding what the research really was about and its very strong limitations.

And you are comparing apples and oranges referring to macro evolution.
 

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Top Pathologist Claims COVID-19 Is "The Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated On An Unsuspecting Public"
Thu, 11/19/2020 - 10:58


Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told government officials in Alberta during a zoom conference call that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”

Hodkinson’s comments were made during a discussion involving the Community and Public Services Committee and the clip was subsequently uploaded to YouTube.


Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians, it’s outrageous, this is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public,” said Hodkinson.​
The doctor said that nothing could be done to stop the spread of the virus besides protecting older more vulnerable people and that the whole situation represented “politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”



Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,” as he called for society to be re-opened immediately to prevent the debilitating damage being caused by lockdowns.
Hodkinson also slammed mandatory mask mandates as completely pointless.

“Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever,” he said.
“Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signalling. They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemmings obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”​
The doctor also slammed the unreliability of PCR tests, noting that “positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” and that all testing should stop because the false numbers are “driving public hysteria.”
Hodkinson said that the risk of death in the province of Alberta for people under the age of 65 was “one in three hundred thousand,” and that it was simply “outrageous” to shut down society for what the doctor said “was just another bad flu.”
“I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level, it should all stop tomorrow,” concluded Dr. Hodkinson.​


Hodkinson’s credentials are beyond question, with the MedMalDoctors website affirming his credibility.
“He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).”
“He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.”​
In case the above video gets deleted by YouTube, a backup via Bitchute is available here.
 

cv5

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everyones a winner, thats what they learned in stephen coveys seven habits of highly succesful people

they call it win-win, (even if it looks like they lost)
Everyone's a winner? Doesn't apply to the Canaanites of old. Doesn't apply for people today either.
 

cv5

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Top Pathologist Claims COVID-19 Is "The Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated On An Unsuspecting Public"
Thu, 11/19/2020 - 10:58


Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told government officials in Alberta during a zoom conference call that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”

Hodkinson’s comments were made during a discussion involving the Community and Public Services Committee and the clip was subsequently uploaded to YouTube.


Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians, it’s outrageous, this is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public,” said Hodkinson.​
The doctor said that nothing could be done to stop the spread of the virus besides protecting older more vulnerable people and that the whole situation represented “politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”



Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,” as he called for society to be re-opened immediately to prevent the debilitating damage being caused by lockdowns.
Hodkinson also slammed mandatory mask mandates as completely pointless.

“Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever,” he said.​
“Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signalling. They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemmings obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”​
The doctor also slammed the unreliability of PCR tests, noting that “positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” and that all testing should stop because the false numbers are “driving public hysteria.”
Hodkinson said that the risk of death in the province of Alberta for people under the age of 65 was “one in three hundred thousand,” and that it was simply “outrageous” to shut down society for what the doctor said “was just another bad flu.”
“I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level, it should all stop tomorrow,” concluded Dr. Hodkinson.​


Hodkinson’s credentials are beyond question, with the MedMalDoctors website affirming his credibility.
“He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).”​
“He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.”​
In case the above video gets deleted by YouTube, a backup via Bitchute is available here.
Can Eleventhour dispute this litany of facts by a person who is vastly superior in credentials and experience? Not as far as I'm concerned she can't.

When I hear COVID hysteria hoaxing come out of anyone including her I know immediately that it is a fraud. Instantaneously. Likewise I instantaneously understand the truth of the matter such as what this gentleman is clearly declaring here.

COVID is a worldwide hoax of hysteria perpetrated on an unsuspecting public. The methods motivations and goals are Satanic! Yes you heard that right Satanic. The globalist elite cartel of Christ hating occultists are fully engaged in a campaign to take over the world through deceit treachery and bankruptcy. They are rallying their political henchmen & meat puppets to facilitate the Great Reset. Better described as the precipitous descent into hell on earth.
 

Roughsoul1991

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You lack objectivity sir.

The authors of the research you posted for the most part were not virologists or epidemiologists.
Anyway, you just want your findings accepted without understanding what the research really was about and its very strong limitations.

And you are comparing apples and oranges referring to macro evolution.
The authors of the research you posted for the most part were not virologists or epidemiologists.
Are your sons virologists or epidemiologists? I did not technically say they needed to be but pointing out not all medical fields even deal with such a topic.

And you are comparing apples and oranges referring to macro evolution.
Using Dawkins as an example of how scientists can look at the same topic and come away with completely different conclusions.

Thank God we can always get more than one opinion in the medical realm, many lives have been saved due to getting a second or third opinion.
 

Dude653

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Can Eleventhour dispute this litany of facts by a person who is vastly superior in credentials and experience? Not as far as I'm concerned she can't.

When I hear COVID hysteria hoaxing come out of anyone including her I know immediately that it is a fraud. Instantaneously. Likewise I instantaneously understand the truth of the matter such as what this gentleman is clearly declaring here.

COVID is a worldwide hoax of hysteria perpetrated on an unsuspecting public. The methods motivations and goals are Satanic! Yes you heard that right Satanic. The globalist elite cartel of Christ hating occultists are fully engaged in a campaign to take over the world through deceit treachery and bankruptcy. They are rallying their political henchmen & meat puppets to facilitate the Great Reset. Better described as the precipitous descent into hell on earth.
okay so you're saying Satan wants me to take proper precautions so I don't get sick?
Ok.....thanks Satan?
 
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DWR

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Have been talking with several small business owners in my area and they all say they will never survive another shut down. They will be in the unemployment line with all their employees.
Seems like a government power grab to me.
Still can not help but believe this is part of the plan to eliminate all the independent businesses so the rich can get richer.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Top Pathologist Claims COVID-19 Is "The Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated On An Unsuspecting Public"
Thu, 11/19/2020 - 10:58


Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told government officials in Alberta during a zoom conference call that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”

Hodkinson’s comments were made during a discussion involving the Community and Public Services Committee and the clip was subsequently uploaded to YouTube.


Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”
“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians, it’s outrageous, this is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public,” said Hodkinson.​
The doctor said that nothing could be done to stop the spread of the virus besides protecting older more vulnerable people and that the whole situation represented “politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”



Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,” as he called for society to be re-opened immediately to prevent the debilitating damage being caused by lockdowns.
Hodkinson also slammed mandatory mask mandates as completely pointless.

“Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever,” he said.​
“Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signalling. They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemmings obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”​
The doctor also slammed the unreliability of PCR tests, noting that “positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” and that all testing should stop because the false numbers are “driving public hysteria.”
Hodkinson said that the risk of death in the province of Alberta for people under the age of 65 was “one in three hundred thousand,” and that it was simply “outrageous” to shut down society for what the doctor said “was just another bad flu.”
“I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level, it should all stop tomorrow,” concluded Dr. Hodkinson.​


Hodkinson’s credentials are beyond question, with the MedMalDoctors website affirming his credibility.
“He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).”​
“He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.”​
In case the above video gets deleted by YouTube, a backup via Bitchute is available here.
I'm sure they will find some way to discredit him.
 

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***GREATEST ELECTION FRAUD IN HISTORY*****
TRUMP Campaign Lawyers Hold Press Conference 11/19/20



 

Roughsoul1991

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***GREATEST ELECTION FRAUD IN HISTORY*****
TRUMP Campaign Lawyers Hold Press Conference 11/19/20



I was about to post this but you got it covered. Things about to heat up for the deep state. Has the swamp started boiling yet?
 
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lenna

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as far as objectivity goes, it seems there are differing standards for that

so, not at all objective by any means

what is the objective? to actually give two hoots about people?

or perhaps the doorway to controlling people considered not able to govern because they...gasp gasp...can think for themselves
 

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lenna

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Yeah he's an idiot so there's that
he is not an idiot and you know that

making such comments indicates an inability to support factual evidence. opinions are not evidence. in fact evidence as to his intelligence is easy to obtain... the last 4 years is evidence as well as the empire he built. now jealousy of that empire is not supportive of the opinion he is an idiot

you are presenting your own opinion, which is yours to do, but hardly a statement of fact
 
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lenna

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I'm sure they will find some way to discredit him.

as with every and any thing that discredits the so called worst threat to humanity of this century, they will lie because it does not support the desired outcome

which is a one world government with all the little worker bees subdued and controlled

and they will repeat and garnish the lies until the media does it for them
 
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lenna

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Have been talking with several small business owners in my area and they all say they will never survive another shut down. They will be in the unemployment line with all their employees.
Seems like a government power grab to me.
Still can not help but believe this is part of the plan to eliminate all the independent businesses so the rich can get richer.
no it isn't so the rich can get richer. no one gets richer if people are too poor to buy what you manufacture

it is a power grab, but a political one
 

Magenta

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as far as objectivity goes, it seems there are differing standards for that

so, not at all objective by any means

what is the objective? to actually give two hoots about people?

or perhaps the doorway to controlling people considered not able to govern because they...gasp gasp...can think for themselves
That was Barak Hussein Obama sin laden's opinion: that the average person was too small minded to be able to govern their own affairs, and therefore needed to be ready and willing to give up their rights :oops:
 

Dude653

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Can you prove he is a foolish or stupid person?
Anyone who says covid is a hoax is an idiot
This thing has killed millions worldwide
I personally know two people who died from it after having gone to a house party and contracted it
The idea behind the mask is that the virus is spread through moisture from the lungs and The mask helps reduce this
If masks don't do anything then why do surgeons wear them
Stupidity kills
If you want to live in the dark ages maybe try middle Eastern country.
 
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