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Dude653

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wrong! again Ca where I am from voted two times to uphold Marriage as between one man and one women. I gay Judge in California ruled against it. Also The Obama administration did not uphold the defense marriage act of Bill Clinton that the GOP created. Therefore the supreme court can only go on law. Unlike the gay Judge in CA and then Mayor Newsom who illegally performed gay marriages as did Kamala Harris. Science has already proven that the Transgender and gay sexual preference are systemically destructive to one life. The laws made now are taking rights away from parents to do what they believe is right for their child .
Science has proven no such thing
 

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lol FYI guy Science has proven it is still one man and one women that brings life not two men or two women..... Drop mic
What about people who don't want children?
I wasn't aware that everyone is required to procreate
I assure you we have plenty of people on the planet then a small minority of people not reproducing isn't going to make us go extinct
 

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lol FYI guy Science has proven it is still one man and one women that brings life not two men or two women..... Drop mic
Does gayness become more gay when they get married?
There's just no logical reason not to allow it
also they are taxpaying citizens and our tax dollars pay the county clerk salaries therefore they should be before the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen
 

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What about people who don't want children?
I wasn't aware that everyone is required to procreate
I assure you we have plenty of people on the planet then a small minority of people not reproducing isn't going to make us go extinct
then you have an adverse relationship that goes against the normal nature order of life
 

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Does gayness become more gay when they get married?
There's just no logical reason not to allow it
also they are taxpaying citizens and our tax dollars pay the county clerk salaries therefore they should be before the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen
there is no such thing as gay marriage. No matter how much the apple wants to be an orange it can not be. You can call it marriage but it no more true than Liz Warren saying she is Native American or Rachel Anne Dolezal saying she is black. it is a lie and it is self-deception. One's sexual preference doesn't make up one's Ethnicity. many people have given up the homosexual lifestyle the only ones with that issue are militant gays who attack those who choose to leave it. The so-called tolerant now the most intolerant.
 

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Does gayness become more gay when they get married?
There's just no logical reason not to allow it
also they are taxpaying citizens and our tax dollars pay the county clerk salaries therefore they should be before the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen
they do have the same privileges I do what they don't get is preferential treatment or an elite protected class of lifestyle over another. they don't want to be accepted they want to take over. I know many gay people who in fact despise the LGBT mind-set. And are fully ok which their private lives.
 
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Does gayness become more gay when they get married?
There's just no logical reason not to allow it
also they are taxpaying citizens and our tax dollars pay the county clerk salaries therefore they should be before the same privileges as any other tax-paying citizen
Destructive forces.

Think "the destructive damage"
 

Dude653

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then you have an adverse relationship that goes against the normal nature order of life
Not really. Not everyone wants kids
some people just don't want the responsibility and the financial burden that comes with it
 

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Not really. Not everyone wants kids
some people just don't want the responsibility and the financial burden that comes with it
that has nothing to do with marriage now does it?
 

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Then why did you bring it up
You're not very good at debating
first off I am not trying to win a debate with you. Secondly, your comment makes no sense. You at one point say

"Not everyone wants kids
some people just don't want the responsibility and the financial burden that comes with it"


Which I said you do not need marriage meaning, two men in a relationship want us to call it marriage, when it is not, is the point. FYI many men and women choose not to get married because of that same reason. Again you are not founded in a good understanding
 

Dude653

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first off I am not trying to win a debate with you. Secondly, your comment makes no sense. You at one point say

"Not everyone wants kids
some people just don't want the responsibility and the financial burden that comes with it"


Which I said you do not need marriage meaning, two men in a relationship want us to call it marriage, when it is not, is the point. FYI many men and women choose not to get married because of that same reason. Again you are not founded in a good understanding
You're not making any sense.
You can get married and not have kids
I'm trying to decipher your incoherent babbling
 

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You're not making any sense.
You can get married and not have kids
I'm trying to decipher your incoherent babbling
smh yes that is true but you do not have to be married to have children that happen every day many children are born out of wedlock YET none are born from a homosexual relationship. YOu result to insults only make you look foolish.
 

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smh yes that is true but you do not have to be married to have children that happen every day many children are born out of wedlock YET none are born from a homosexual relationship. YOu result to insults only make you look foolish.
your logical fallacy is called red herring because children have nothing to do with the topic at hand
A marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults
you can have a preacher officiate the marriage that you're still not married until you sign that contract from the state
When you're married at the courthouse, the God part is completely optional
That's because it's irrelevant in the eyes of the law
In America we make laws on the Constitution, not the Bible
 

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your logical fallacy is called red herring because children have nothing to do with the topic at hand
A marriage is a legal contract between two consenting adults
you can have a preacher officiate the marriage that you're still not married until you sign that contract from the state
When you're married at the courthouse, the God part is completely optional
That's because it's irrelevant in the eyes of the law
In America, we make laws on the Constitution, not the Bible
Not with those who are of the same sex it is not it is a perversion. WHat God has Joined together let nothing come between. To you, the " God Part is completely optional". Well, sir, that is blasphemous and I caution you to be careful, how you are speaking of the Living God.
 

Dude653

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Not with those who are of the same sex it is not it is a perversion. WHat God has Joined together let nothing come between. To you, the " God Part is completely optional". Well, sir, that is blasphemous and I caution you to be careful, how you are speaking of the Living God.
I'm talking about the law
The law says you don't have to include God in your marriage vows
 

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I'm talking about the law
The law says you don't have to include God in your marriage vows
the context of the vow is made to GOD and the other person in when the Judge is doing it there are no vows, courthouse wedding is a pledge. Have you performed weddings in CA yet? I would think you have not.
 

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the context of the vow is made to GOD and the other person in when the Judge is doing it there are no vows, courthouse wedding is a pledge. Have you performed weddings in CA yet? I would think you have not.
Doesn't matter.
You sign the contract and the presence of two witnesses and you're legally married
By your argument, anyone who is a Christian wouldn't be able to get married
It seems conservatives only care about the Constitution when it benefits them
 

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Doesn't matter.
You sign the contract and the presence of two witnesses and you're legally married
By your argument, anyone who is a Christian wouldn't be able to get married
It seems conservatives only care about the Constitution when it benefits them

No, the truth if it is not between man and women it can't be marriage no matter what. No more than a man born so can be a woman LOL.