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cv5

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Really?

You guys can not see the democratic path to destruction?????????
Democrats do not want to defend America from their enemies. Democrats are a fifth column who want to welcome America's enemies. The fact of the immense voter fraud is an alarm bell we should all heed.
 
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you are wasting time here. for weeks , i have been pointing out to her the tyranny that governments like austraila forced on their citizens.

not one word of negative feedback from her about the heavy handed tactics.

so, all the restrictions are fine with her...
And South Korea even more so and guess what no lock down required.

Oh yes look at the number of New Zealand and Australia per capita while you are at it.
 
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Yeah you are right tyranny never ends, just didn’t think it would be so prevalent in the U.S. In Nevada it’s okay to go to a casino, bar, or a show, but you are restricted from going a place of worship. Chicago is closing down, again. New York has placed restrictions, again, on places of worship but has placed no restrictions on big box stores. Cuomo has placed a restriction on the number of people you can have in your home for Thanksgiving (10). I guess if you have a family of 11 or more, you will have to choose who stays outside the home. Government is starting to infringe on our rights guaranteed by The U.S. Constitution. If people like AOC, Bernie Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer and Elizabeth Warren have their way many of our rights will disapear.

You may be a Democrat and think our country is a mess under Trump. Please take a look at the areas of unrest in our country and who the leaders are. If Joe Biden would be totally honest, he would want Republican victories in the Senate races in Georgia In order not to be pulled to the Far left. Biden is already getting pressure to move us towards Socialism.

Thank you for your service. I also served.
I can agree with you that it’s important not to the be dragged to the left. I’m worried about the influence of AOC and her gang.

Thank you for your service.
 

cv5

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Can you describe what your Pastors sneakiness entailed?
To make a long story short I was emailing and texting this NEW pastor with dozens and dozens Bible studies, verses, studies in eschatology, and so on and so forth. I went out of my way to clearly delineate my biblical position (Premillennial pre-TRIB rapture, no replacement theology, a literal tribulation and judgments to come etc. etc.).

He on the other hand failed to respond in an honest vigorous forthright manner. Yes he would reply with the odd text yes he would reply with emails now and again.....but only cryptically and without any kind of commitment one way or another. I knew something was up. But he NEVER came out of the closet and expressed his theological position. This little game continued in Church during sermons and services for many months. IMO he was playing me and my wife along in order to continue to extract money (I tend to give generously) and to grow this little cult he was building.

And then a number of weeks ago he began teaching Mark 13. What a disaster.......the heresies and apostasy that was coming out of his mouth was just incredible. It was practically a denial of Christs deity and the certainty prophecy. This pastor had absolutely no idea....at all.....of why Jesus stated that He did not know the day of the hour of His coming. Fortunately for me I understand Mark 13 impeccably well, (in synchronicity with Matthew 24 in Luke 21 of course). So there is no way he was going to deceive me.....though his intention was to deceive the rest of the congregation!

And then couple of weeks later he I overheard him tell someone ELSE that he was amillennialist (In response to a question by a young new attendee). This after failing to tell me after all of my multitude of inquiries! After hearing this I immediately interceded into the groups' conversation and stated unequivocally that such things are not Biblical. I was very fortunate in that I did successfully exegete the truth of the pretrib rapture position, and the truth of end time eschatology spoken of in Mark 13. I explained to them that they will never understand end time eschatology until they understand the Jewish wedding ritual PATTERN!

One more thing: Six months ago or so this pastor emailed me a PDF of this "paper" that he wrote on Genesis 6 vs Jude etc. The net of it was that he was a "higher scholar", who opined due to his "higher criticism" the fallen angels theory was nothing more than a fraud and myth conjured up in the postexilic writings of a bunch of addled rabbis!!! Really I should've walked away then.

Think of the ramifications and implications of THAT heresy! That the Bible does NOT have integrity, that the books CANNOT be trusted, and we are to reinvent Christianity to suit our own image. Which is EXACTLY what I see coming from so many heretics on Christian chat.

And what I say to you I say to all: This present day Laodicean church is FILLED with these sorts of fake pastors. Every imaginable abomination and heresy is acceptable. The truth however is never acceptable.
 

cv5

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And South Korea even more so and guess what no lock down required.

Oh yes look at the number of New Zealand and Australia per capita while you are at it.
Lockdowns are never required. Proven fact.
 
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Lockdowns are never required. Proven fact.

Perhaps when a country is prepared, has protocols/procedures and materials in place and acts swiftly like South Korea was somewhat able to .. are you sure the USA compares?
 

cv5

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Perhaps when a country is prepared, has protocols/procedures and materials in place and acts swiftly like South Korea was somewhat able to .. are you sure the USA compares?
Already tested already confirmed. North Dakota model everywhere. Keep the schools open keep the businesses open. Protect the most vulnerable (don't send them off to die like Cuomo did).

And don't forget about this genius: There has not been one single solitary confirmed case of a child to teacher transmission of COVID. Anywhere in the WORLD.
 
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Already tested already confirmed. North Dakota model everywhere. Keep the schools open keep the businesses open. Protect the most vulnerable
Virtually impossible to protect the vulnerable.

Nice try though.

You must be looking at some weird data, North Dakota tops the list of the seven day average per capita, it is number one in the USA at 1.7 per million, actually higher than any province in Canada.

Population: 762,062
Total cases: 59,173
Current single day cases: 1,800
Peak single day cases: 1,800

John Hopkins and Worldometer

Of course its fake I know... not need to respond.
 

cv5

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Virtually impossible to protect the vulnerable.

Nice try though.

You must be looking at some weird data, North Dakota tops the list of the seven day average per capita, it is number one in the USA at 1.7 per million, actually higher than any province in Canada.

Population: 762,062
Total cases: 59,173
Current single day cases: 1,800
Peak single day cases: 1,800

John Hopkins and Worldometer

Of course its fake I know... not need to respond.
You really do not get it.

These statistics are no worse than any typical flu season. The case fatality rate is infinitesimal for children, and very low for working age adults and the healthy.

Only those with serious comorbidity or the elderly are in danger.

You paint this hoax as a paralyzing crisis. Its not. Not even close. Compared to 1918 its trivial and irrelevant.
 
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You really do not get it.

These statistics are no worse than any typical flu season. The case fatality rate is infinitesimal for children, and very low for working age adults and the healthy.

Only those with serious comorbidity or the elderly are in danger.

You paint this hoax as a paralyzing crisis. Its not. Not even close. Compared to 1918 its trivial and irrelevant.
Why do you go in a different direction when contradicted, it is quite comical.
 

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99.9%of the population that get the virus recover. So 0.1% is apparently enough for the 99.9% to suffer and have their rights and livelihoods taken from them. Aided and abetted by the “useful idiot” Karens in our midst.

Global data: COVID-19 recovery rate approaching 99.9%
With 'record cases' comes a record low death rate.



Jordan Schachtel
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The recovery rate from COVID-19 — the disease that originated in Wuhan, China and was once advertised as the plague of the century — will soon reach 99.9%, and is currently within a range of 99.75%-99.875%, according to the best estimates based on WHO and CDC statistics.
Parallel to the electoral chaos currently enveloping the United States, world governments and legacy media institutions have continued to showcase the rise in reported COVID-19 cases this Fall to bring global COVID panic to even greater heights, despite the death rate from the novel coronavirus continuing its consistent decline to new lows every single week.
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As governments across the world remain in a panicked frenzy, with many continuing to invoke brutal draconian lockdowns, and other policies to “stop the spread,” while destroying hundreds of millions of lives, the “deadly virus” that these policies are supposedly designed to fight is becoming more and more mild as each day passes.
By this weekend, the world will have reached close to 50 million reported coronavirus cases, per popular tracking sites such as Worldometer and the Johns Hopkins COVID resource center website.
 

posthuman

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You're hilarious. You think that because you have chosen to abandon your 1st Amendment rights, that the rest of us should follow suit. You know.....that beaten and beleaguered Amendment having to do with freedom of assembly?

Since you choose to give up your Constitutional rights why don't you follow through and take a knee with Biden Pelosi and the Democrats to the satanic BLM Marxists? Like a good little commie. Come on posthuman........ you know you want to.
Um, is that a "no"?

Can hardly see past all your slander.
Thanks
 

cv5

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cv5

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Why do you go in a different direction when contradicted, it is quite comical.
The direction for me is always the same. To apprehend the truth of the matter. Anyone can do the same. Strike out on your own and try it some time.

I take it you watch CNN regularly?
 

cv5

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99.9%of the population that get the virus recover. So 0.1% is apparently enough for the 99.9% to suffer and have their rights and livelihoods taken from them. Aided and abetted by the “useful idiot” Karens in our midst.

Global data: COVID-19 recovery rate approaching 99.9%
With 'record cases' comes a record low death rate.


Jordan Schachtel
Nov 594

The recovery rate from COVID-19 — the disease that originated in Wuhan, China and was once advertised as the plague of the century — will soon reach 99.9%, and is currently within a range of 99.75%-99.875%, according to the best estimates based on WHO and CDC statistics.
Parallel to the electoral chaos currently enveloping the United States, world governments and legacy media institutions have continued to showcase the rise in reported COVID-19 cases this Fall to bring global COVID panic to even greater heights, despite the death rate from the novel coronavirus continuing its consistent decline to new lows every single week.
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As governments across the world remain in a panicked frenzy, with many continuing to invoke brutal draconian lockdowns, and other policies to “stop the spread,” while destroying hundreds of millions of lives, the “deadly virus” that these policies are supposedly designed to fight is becoming more and more mild as each day passes.
By this weekend, the world will have reached close to 50 million reported coronavirus cases, per popular tracking sites such as Worldometer and the Johns Hopkins COVID resource center website.
The Repub managed states and cities are running perfectly fine regardless of COVID. The people are free and prosper. The good citizens neither need nor want nanny state tommyrot.

The Democrat run cities and states? Not so much. In fact not even a little bit.
Notably, the dictators of these gulag cities are the ones that CNN chooses and uses as instruments and useful idiots in their COVID propaganda fear porn operation.

The fool Cuomo has destroyed New York City because of his refusal to restore peace & order, his COVID fear mongering, and his unerringly strict compliance to the neo-DEM commie policy of tyranny and civil right rights violations . All of his lickspittle groveling and begging at the prosperous and wealthy citizens fleeing his gulag are both amusing and impotent. If the citizens of New York had state any guts they would have this man recalled.

Even those who refuse to admit it cannot avoid the truth: The hard-core Democrat cities and states are BY FAR the worst, most dangerous, filthy, lawless locations in all of the United States. They are manifestations of the people and philosophy that rule over them.

When they come begging because they don't have tax revenue to pay the bills, I say don't give them a thin dime. They made their bed with the Baals let them lie in it.
 
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The fraud continues as we speak ! !
Republican observers are being blocked – again at the Georgia recount !

To my American friends who value democracy call;
The Georgia Sec. of state, Brad Raffensperger at 404-656-2817.

For more details on this vile coup see; https://www.dickmorris.com/
 

cv5

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MI and PA on VERGE of FLIPPING to TRUMP as Pundit Warns ‘Things are About to EXPLODE’!!!
Here's a little lesson in civics folks. Nobody is going to scam the legislatures.

 

posthuman

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You are the genius....supposedly. And yet you fail to comprehend my post?

Tragic.
you said it was unconstitutional for government representatives in Chicago to say it may be unwise to have large gatherings on the the upcoming holiday.
i asked you if you could point me to what part of the constitution forbids the government from giving advice.
you replied by spitting out a bunch of angry lies about me.


so, i think i understand that your reply was essentially a "no, you can't explain how the government making a recommendation based on medical facts is unconstitutional" -- is this incorrect?


i am pretty sad about my mom deciding not to have the family meet at her house this year. but i guess i can't accuse her of treason over it *shrug*


why are you lying so much lately? and so bitter?
this is what i was talking about, what i have been talking about, with the whole, as believers not of this world, citizens of heaven, not of earth, we ought to be extremely suspicious of worldly political parties who try to convince us their interests and motivations are equivalent to God's, such that we ought to identify ourselves with them, believe and trust them, and broadcast their talking points. it produces awful fruit.
 
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