I agree, and you still need to provide a source for your information regarding pagan worship practices.
Today’s church’s misunderstandings
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When you post on a public forum you put yourself on trial besides have you forgot what Jesus said?
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 12:37 KJV
Sorry I'm still trying to figure out the best way to respond to these posts.....
1.) When you post on a public forum you set yourself up to be judged
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Matthew 12:37
2.) No I don't believe God established the Sabbath at creation
Let me make sure we are on the same page.
Do you observe Saturday as the sabbath day of the OT
It is the Lord that justifies, and the lord that condemns, not people. That is why I never post without consulting scripture and prayer. I have posted inaccurate scripture, but a kind poster pointed it out to me so I could be forgiven. He used scripture to show me, not name calling.
I am condemned by people here, but it is for such as saying that God created a Sabbath, or that there is law, God called it Torah, or that God spoke to all people, God included all in His love not just the Israelites. I use scripture to speak of these things and there are others here who are as interested in scripture as I am. I speak of scripture, only, and being aware that Christ said not to call others a fool even, I try to never judge people--only scripture. I stated that God does not judge people by the day they go to church and someone wanted scripture back up for that, and of course there is no scripture saying God judges us by the day we go to church.
It is amazing there is no name calling and judging people if they go to church on Sunday, but the whole world comes crashing down on anyone who would dare go to church on Saturday.
It is none of your business what day I go to church. You garble my posts so in your mind that it is better for both of us if you would please refrain from reading them.
God made it "Holy" And 'Rested" Ex: 20:11 says he established the 7th day at creation. And verse 8 says we should Remeber this day and keep it holy. By following the 4th command we are "keeping it holy" "Keep" meaning faithful to. or in keeping a promise to God"
When we Keep the promise we are living by faith not by sight! One day might seem like the all the rest but we are not asked to see the 7th day in our own understanding but by faith. And by doing this by faith you are pleasing God.
To put your mind at rest, I have never heard of or seen the book in question, let alone read it. And to put the record straight, I NEVER form a doctrine based on one book. My tally to date must be nearing 30 in all as I have already said. But I guess when you have blinkers on, it must be difficult to see beyond their field of vision.
I don't need to as there is no eight-day. A week consists of seven days, not eight.
I don't need to as there is no eight-day. A week consists of seven days, not eight.
I have never read that in any book I have read on the subject so I will let that one go through to the keeper. What I have read in many books is that the New Testament Church, which was known as The Way, consisted mainly of Jews and they did not stop being Jews to become a follower of the Messiah, so they continued to meet on the sabbath (Saturday) in the synagogue and every other night in their homes for meals together.
They were not Christians as that term did not come into being until Acts 15 and it was given by unbelievers as a term of scorn.
Yes, even as late as Acts 22, this was what Paul said of Ananias
12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
Jews who believed still continue to keep the Law of Moses.
Maybe he is a programmer. They changed the numbering system to 8, 16, and 64. They count to 16, like we count to ten, then spill over. like we spill over after ten to 11, then 21, etc. So Tuesday would be our Monday and ???????
the 8th day is also the first. 8 is congruent to 1 modulo 7.
i can provide you with 100 examples of early church writings calling it 'the 8th day' in no uncertain terms if you like. it is a very well established thing.
let me know. it would be later this evening when i have time.
I never called you a fool....you asked me if I was against God and i said *no I am no fool"
To be fair..... I didn't ask you what day you go to church on....I could care less if you go 7 days a week, 365 days a year and one extra day on leap year....
I was only trying to figure out what we was disagreeing on. With all due respect I find your posts hard to follow.....
The law was given in Exodus 16 creation was in Genisis 1
The word sabbath isn't in the book of Genisis and there is no record of anyone prior to the law given in Exodus 16 keeping the sabbath (Adam never kept the Sabbath, nor did Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph or anyone in while in Egyptian bondage.)
You said "verse 8 says we should remember this day and keep it holy"
Could you give me a few examples of how I should "keep" the sabbath? Another words what I can and cannot do on sabbath day?