Why Jerusalem?

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eternally-gratefull said:
You do not get it at all,

the harlot has influence over the earth and has for along time, starting back with Babylon, (hence her name)

the 10horns are ten kings who give their power to the one king, who has to destroy her
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The harlot reigns over the ten nations for 70 years. After 70 years has been accomplished, those nations can then destroy her.
The Medes (Iran) is said to be the main force to destroy Babylon.The ten horns will give thier strength to Iran to destroy the harlot.
 
Shilohsfoal said:
Rome is not the gentile kingdom that is in power when Christ returns. The United States of America is.
Rome will be nothing more th an it is now, flat busted broke.
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you need to study daniel my friend. There are holy 4 kingdoms. And the last one has two parts
 
Shilohsfoal said:
The harlot reigns over the ten nations for 70 years. After 70 years has been accomplished, those nations can then destroy her.
The Medes (Iran) is said to be the main force to destroy Babylon.The ten horns will give thier strength to Iran to destroy the harlot.
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Ok, your out there. I am finished
 
eternally-gratefull said:
you need to study daniel my friend. There are holy 4 kingdoms. And the last one has two parts
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I've been watching it take place for years now. I read about Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem 20 years before it happened. President Trump will continue his policies concerning Israel after his reelection. Most likely he will get Israel into NATO which he has mentioned causing the north armed forces to move to the US military base in Israel.

It's you who needs to study Daniel.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
I've been watching it take place for years now. I read about Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem 20 years before it happened. President Trump will continue his policies concerning Israel after his reelection. Most likely he will get Israel into NATO which he has mentioned causing the north armed forces to move to the US military base in Israel.

It's you who needs to study Daniel.
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What does Daniel say about trump ?
 
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Pilgrimshope said:
Rome rules the modern world when Christ was crucified And taken to heaven , Satan ruled Rome
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Rome will rule again when Christ returns

remember, it was Christ that was the rock that destroyed nebachadnezzars statue, and it is Christ that destroys the final beast at his return
 
Pilgrimshope said:
What does Daniel say about trump ?
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As you know, almost all scripture is about Israel and the surrounding countries. There is a chapter in Daniel mostly dedicated to the USA involvement in the middle east. The wars it has had and the last war it has.
Trump will end up destroying almost all of the middle east after the neighboring nations attack Israel. In other words he will support the Israeli goverment till its bitter end.
One good thing comes of it though. The promised land from the euphrates to the Nile is then given to those to whom it was first promised. The saints.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
No it’s your problem

The fact I wrote a post Showing just a few reasons why it could not be jerusalem And you have continued to
Ignore it just shows you have nothing to prove me wrong so until you go back and respond to those posts. (I will repost them even) i Am Done
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Hey so your quoted post where you replied in depth had a misquoting error where it got lost within his quote. Just figured I'd throw that in there. If he didn't pull down the rest of the quote he would only have seen where you said

"I am with you up to here amen"

The next block quote underneath had a formatting error and so it is possible he didn't see that in post #37
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
The harlot reigns over the ten nations for 70 years. After 70 years has been accomplished, those nations can then destroy her.
The Medes (Iran) is said to be the main force to destroy Babylon.The ten horns will give thier strength to Iran to destroy the harlot.
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I can loosely understand a lot of your train of thought. Not saying I agree or disagree but there are some things regarding timing that I feel in my spirit, though I recognize that my own spirit can say things and that it's not the Lord, nor is it exactly the enemy...just misinterpretation. I'm not suggesting you are flat out deceived, just that our own spirits can be powerfully puzzled and create interpretations that don't exist in reality. That's for you to consider. Note: I am not suggesting you are doing this "for sure", just that since I am still puzzled and have simulated a lot of the viewpoints that other people have and hold resolutely and YET are in opposition to each other without knowing that other people hold these. It stands to reason that it could be self-seen or human interpretation. OR that we all have a piece of the picture that best serves the Lord in his hidden purposes. I revert to saying I'm not 100% and to redeem the time for the days are evil and recognize that I could be wrong. This feels like going against spiritual insight and yet I believe the Lord understands my uncertainty and allows for that.

Still...I have no idea where you got this 70 years from. Care to explain? @Shilohsfoal
^This is my reason for interacting, but I prefaced it to help you know where I'm coming from.
 
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Mii said:
Hey so your quoted post where you replied in depth had a misquoting error where it got lost within his quote. Just figured I'd throw that in there. If he didn't pull down the rest of the quote he would only have seen where you said

"I am with you up to here amen"

The next block quote underneath had a formatting error and so it is possible he didn't see that in post #37
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Wow, thanks, that’s what you get working on small phone, did not catch it, I will try to repost.
 
Pilgrimshope said:
this woman is Israel shown in Her glory

“And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:1‬ ‭

that’s Israel . The messiah is the son she was going to have

“And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:2, 5‬ ‭

That’s Jesus born as a sin of Israel, crucified and taken up to Gods throne

“This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:32-
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I am with you up to here amen
this is when the covenant changed the messiah was exalted to the throne to rule all nations . When that happened the dragon Satan was cart out of heaven into this earth we live in . When he was cast out after Christ was exalted to the throne

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 12-
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None of the above things have happened yet

Jesus is not ruling each nation

Satan is not bound he is roaming the earth and also in heaven accusing the saints daily.

again that’s Israel who’s capitol is Jerusalem . The woman who bore the messiah . She then flees and is protected for a short time in the wilderness

“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.” ( the gospel )
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:

later in revelation you see the woman who fled into the wilderness

“And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when that time expires you see the same woman wearing different garments different jewels holding the cup of Gods wrath because the serpent works through the beast ( Appointed men) so you see them in the wilderness you see that her time of protection is over and the serpent corrupted her and she appears riding his beast

“So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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who taught you this? It is not the same woman. Babylon is alive today and has been since she lived in the place she got her name. She is queen of many in the OT. Baal worship Came from her. Greek and Roman mythology came from her. Her priests can trace themselves back to Babylon and the tower of babel

It is not jerusalem

Jerusalem as a whore is the subject of several prophecies . Her changing of her garments because of sin is also the subject of prophecy as was the messiahs coming and his eternal
Rule over all nations .

revelation is a vision of past present and future events from scripture leading to what is soon to come

“Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭1:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

there’s a perpetual nature to revelation it tells the whole story and leads to the future promise of God to believers a new heaven and earth the kingdom of God and his children
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Jerusalem is Gods city. It Played the harlot she was Never the harlot. She was the wife who went out and slept with the harlot, and did not keep her bed. She commited adultry, but she was not the harlot, she sold herself to the harlot

that is why she was destroyed multiple times and has yet to Be totally rebuilt. She is not the harlot. I
Am Not sure who told you this but they are wrong

Jesus in Matt 24 told them to flee when they saw these things. Then there would be great tribulation which ends with the return of Christ and the end of gentile dominion as Paul said in rom 11 at this time all israel
And Jerusalem will be saved

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1, 3-5‬ ‭
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let’s get the first part right first before we move on
 
Mii said:
I can loosely understand a lot of your train of thought. Not saying I agree or disagree but there are some things regarding timing that I feel in my spirit, though I recognize that my own spirit can say things and that it's not the Lord, nor is it exactly the enemy...just misinterpretation. I'm not suggesting you are flat out deceived, just that our own spirits can be powerfully puzzled and create interpretations that don't exist in reality. That's for you to consider. Note: I am not suggesting you are doing this "for sure", just that since I am still puzzled and have simulated a lot of the viewpoints that other people have and hold resolutely and YET are in opposition to each other without knowing that other people hold these. It stands to reason that it could be self-seen or human interpretation. OR that we all have a piece of the picture that best serves the Lord in his hidden purposes. I revert to saying I'm not 100% and to redeem the time for the days are evil and recognize that I could be wrong. This feels like going against spiritual insight and yet I believe the Lord understands my uncertainty and allows for that.

Still...I have no idea where you got this 70 years from. Care to explain? @Shilohsfoal
^This is my reason for interacting, but I prefaced it to help you know where I'm coming from.
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https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/25-12.htm

And please don't confuse this with ancient Babylon for it thrived many generations. It was still beautiful while Alexander lived there.
https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/25-15.htm

All these nations shall be destroyed and then that land shall be given to the seed of Abraham.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I am with you up to here amen


None of the above things have happened yet

Jesus is not ruling each nation

Satan is not bound he is roaming the earth and also in heaven accusing the saints daily.


who taught you this? It is not the same woman. Babylon is alive today and has been since she lived in the place she got her name. She is queen of many in the OT. Baal worship Came from her. Greek and Roman mythology came from her. Her priests can trace themselves back to Babylon and the tower of babel

It is not jerusalem



Jerusalem is Gods city. It Played the harlot she was Never the harlot. She was the wife who went out and slept with the harlot, and did not keep her bed. She commited adultry, but she was not the harlot, she sold herself to the harlot

that is why she was destroyed multiple times and has yet to Be totally rebuilt. She is not the harlot. I
Am Not sure who told you this but they are wrong

Jesus in Matt 24 told them to flee when they saw these things. Then there would be great tribulation which ends with the return of Christ and the end of gentile dominion as Paul said in rom 11 at this time all israel
And Jerusalem will be saved


let’s get the first part right first before we move on
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God says Jerusalem is a harlot, you say she is not.


https://biblehub.com/isaiah/1-21.htm


Hmmmm, who should I believe?
 
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