The lockdowns accomplished absolutely nothing!

[lenna]

With the riots I think it's safe to say no one is worried about the Rona anymore. Social distancing is out the door. Slightly hypocritical I'd say.

duh

you are very practical in the things you say and spot on with this one

anybody notice how the cases spiked in a certain age group when the rioting began? oh excuse me. the quiet demonstrations.

yes of course. the quiet demonstrations.

I have never my entire life heard such lies and utter hypocrisy as what comes from the left. never

 

[lenna]

Yeah, except for the fact that those numbers are all highly exaggerated, as the hospitals have been attributing other causes of deaths as being Covid deaths. The Democrats did this in collusion with the hospital admins in order to create the Covid epidemic, so that they could legally shut down businesses and control the population. The democratically controlled news media aided in this deception. The front-line doctors themselves have admitted this. As an incentive, the hospitals receive 13,000 per covid death and 39,000 is certain cases. Therefore, the hospital admins with $ signs in their eyes were motivated to comply.

As one doctor said, "How many cases and deaths were Covid related, no one knows." To be sure, the virus is real, but the truth is that, the number of Covid cases and deaths are no where near what the hospitals and media have reported.

as has been said, even one death is awful, but the exaggerations and lies are the meat and potatoes of the left

 

[Scribe]

Part of this may be the social media echo chamber effect. Social media artificial intelligence compares what you like with what other people like and feeds you stuff the algorithm thinks you like. If you like right wing conspiracies about the deep state or left wing conspiracies that Trump had something to do with Russian bots posting on social media during the last presidential election, that may pop up at the top of you Facebook feed or be in the recommended YouTube channels. People often have friends with similar views, which compounds the effect on some platforms like Facebook and Instagram. If enough uninformed people say the same thing, it feels like common knowledge. It seems like a fact.

I try my best to be nice about it but every day I am realizing that many people are just dumber than a box of rocks. I don't even try to inform them as I once thought I should. I realized that as easy as it is for me to fact check (5 seconds with Google) they can do that also so I will be wasting my breath. One main thing I have learned from this pandemic. I am surrounded by people who's elevator does not go all the way to the top. But I mustn't say it.

 

[gb9]

I try my best to be nice about it but every day I am realizing that many people are just dumber than a box of rocks. I don't even try to inform them as I once thought I should. I realized that as easy as it is for me to fact check (5 seconds with Google) they can do that also so I will be wasting my breath. One main thing I have learned from this pandemic. I am surrounded by people who's elevator does not go all the way to the top. But I mustn't say it.

you mean like people wearing masks that say on the box that the mask will NOT protect a person from covid.

like thinking that blm marches do not spread covid while trump rallies do,

like taking the world health organization serious on anything they say after they helped china cover up that the virus is passed from person to person.

like..........

 

[presidente]

you mean like people wearing masks that say on the box that the mask will NOT protect a person from covid.

Early into the lockdown, I asked a friend from church who is a cardio-pulminary therapist/technician (I forget the title) with a masters degree in it. He was working with COVID-19 patients. The briefings he'd heard were that they believed COVID-19 needed a protein shell to survive, so it needed to be encased in saliva or mucous. So the masks can protect us if someone sneezes and that particle of spit or mucous gets stuck on the mask instead of going into the respiratory tract. It's not 100%.

 

[GaryA]

Early into the lockdown, I asked a friend from church who is a cardio-pulminary therapist/technician (I forget the title) with a masters degree in it. He was working with COVID-19 patients. The briefings he'd heard were that they believed COVID-19 needed a protein shell to survive, so it needed to be encased in saliva or mucous. So the masks can protect us if someone sneezes and that particle of spit or mucous gets stuck on the mask instead of going into the respiratory tract. It's not 100%.

I am pretty sure that gb9's indication of "what it says on the box" is in the sense of not being reliable - i.e., the mask will not prevent small particles from getting through the mask. In other words, he is saying the "flipside" of what you are saying in the last sentence of your post:

"It's not 100%."

 

[soggykitten]

I would disagree that the lock down accomplished absolutely nothing. The lock down and the masks mandate, some retailers refusing to check out anyone not wearing a mask, was an effective means of gauging concession and compliance of the masses.
In some cities it was reported or was blasted by citizens there, that government vans were set up to observe compliance in busy retail areas. Video data collected. And of course in those cities where the vans were not posted there is the obvious CCTv surveillance.

What was accomplished is data collected by authorities world wide as to the affectiveness of fear programming, and respondent concession and compliance.
Some think this will all relax after the election in America.

I think we may be in for a real surprise since this plan was imparted world wide. And now you notice? All these months the Covid fear isn't deescalating. Rather, there are now little bubbles of new news relating to new outbreaks in huge numbers, and the mutation (of course, we're talking virus), causing a Coronavirus resurgence.

It is an ages old plot. Scare people! Then offer them a salve to quell their fears. And all they have to do to vanquish the (induced) fear is....

What is notable in all this? We're locking down churches the same way as Communist China does. And we're suppose to believe this whole pandemic virus originated in China.

 

[soggykitten]

We are moving back to prior the dark ages... soon we will need Galileo, Newton and Da Vinci to come back

Imagine that smell. Walking Dead part one.

 

[soggykitten]

I am thankful that God is in control and that his will will be done.

Regardless of their member status I just had to say, I always loo askance at those who blame all manner of catastrophe on God's will to destroy countless lives, take countless lives, wreck economies that lives depend upon for survival, etc....
Just to show the world that he is God.
That doesn't sound like God because God knows he is God. Rather, it sounds like man's vengeful personality making God in their image and likeness.
There's an old saying by a Christian woman, Anne Lamott.

I believe thinking God kills people, destroys them in any number of ways, because that how he thinks he'll make them believe in an Omnibenevolent God is just weird. That love wouldn't be generated out of respect. It would be generated out of terror.
Fear God in the scriptures doesn't mean be terrified of your maker. It means show respect and reverence for the king of heaven that created everything from and of himself .

 

[Ahwatukee]

I would disagree that the lock down accomplished absolutely nothing. The lock down and the masks mandate, some retailers refusing to check out anyone not wearing a mask, was an effective means of gauging concession and compliance of the masses.
In some cities it was reported or was blasted by citizens there, that government vans were set up to observe compliance in busy retail areas. Video data collected. And of course in those cities where the vans were not posted there is the obvious CCTv surveillance. View attachment 221082

What was accomplished is data collected by authorities world wide as to the affectiveness of fear programming, and respondent concession and compliance.
Some think this will all relax after the election in America.

I think we may be in for a real surprise since this plan was imparted world wide. And now you notice? All these months the Covid fear isn't deescalating. Rather, there are now little bubbles of new news relating to new outbreaks in huge numbers, and the mutation (of course, we're talking virus), causing a Coronavirus resurgence.

It is an ages old plot. Scare people! Then offer them a salve to quell their fears. And all they have to do to vanquish the (induced) fear is....

What is notable in all this? We're locking down churches the same way as Communist China does. And we're suppose to believe this whole pandemic virus originated in China.

And what does Patrick Star and his far-left cronies want to do? He has stated that if the scientist say to shut down, he will shut down the country again, destroying more businesses and jobs.

I have been praying that God's favor would be upon president Trump and Mike Pence (two proclaimed Christians) for their reelection and that God's hand would be against Biden and those democrats, that he would expose and bring to nothing all of their evil schemes and plans. According to scripture, there are no authorities except those whom God has appointed. God is in control! If He lets Biden and his democrats in it may be for the purpose of bringing America down. For they want to tear down the border fence and open it up, allowing illegals to come into the country without going through the legal process, send out our manufacturing jobs to China, which Trump has been bringing back into America, raise taxes (which Trump has cut), possible mask mandates, take away our rights to bear and keep arms, return the US to be dependent once again, on other countries for our natural resources and many, many other idiotic and destructive plans.

One thing is for sure, Patrick Star and his cronies are not for the people and by the people, regardless of what he says. He's just a puppet and the dem's are pulling his strings. He can't even remember what he's talking about much of the time, ergo the moniker, Patrick Star. If he's elected, he'll end up sitting in an old folks home and Kamala will take over, with Pelosi, Hillary, AOC, Schumer, Schiff and all the rest of them running the show and destroying this country.

If this is a prelude to bringing down America, may the Lord come to catch His bride up to take us back to the Father's house. I would not want to live here with them running our country.

Everyone pray to the Lord to reelect Trump and Mike Pence, because there is a lot at stake here. And make an effort to vote for Trump, even those who have never voted. Our America is on the line!

 

[Fundamental]

They helped a great deal installing 5G antennas in Belgium without anyone being able to protest this

 

[Gregoryp]

Regardless of their member status I just had to say, I always loo askance at those who blame all manner of catastrophe on God's will to destroy countless lives, take countless lives, wreck economies that lives depend upon for survival, etc....
Just to show the world that he is God.
That doesn't sound like God because God knows he is God. Rather, it sounds like man's vengeful personality making God in their image and likeness.
There's an old saying by a Christian woman, Anne Lamott.

I believe thinking God kills people, destroys them in any number of ways, because that how he thinks he'll make them believe in an Omnibenevolent God is just weird. That love wouldn't be generated out of respect. It would be generated out of terror.
Fear God in the scriptures doesn't mean be terrified of your maker. It means show respect and reverence for the king of heaven that created everything from and of himself . View attachment 221084

That is not the reason this is happening, God did not start this, the enemy did. However he is using it to wake up man to the futility of relying on mankind for there happiness , welfare and of course salvation. Do not depend on the world, depend on Jesus Christ and him alone. The world is coming to end and very quickly. BTW God has no interest or joy in the world, it is just a holding place for his precious people.

 

[Mak33]

That is the conclusion of a recent study by J. P. Morgan. In fact, infection rates dropped after countries and states decided to reopen. However, millions of livelihoods were destroyed. China could not have asked for a better outcome. We could call this "the Chinese revenge against Trump".

Lockdowns failed to alter the course of pandemic and are now destroying millions of livelihoods worldwide, JP Morgan study claims

Coronavirus lockdowns have failed to alter the course of the pandemic but have instead 'destroyed millions of livelihoods', a JP Morgan study has claimed. Falling infection rates since lockdowns were lifted suggest that the virus 'likely has its own dynamics' which are 'unrelated to often inconsistent lockdown measures', a report published by the financial services giant said...

Author Marko Kolanovic, a trained physicist and a strategist for JP Morgan, said governments had been spooked by 'flawed scientific papers' into imposing lockdowns which were 'inefficient or late' and had little effect. 'Unlike rigorous testing of new drugs, lockdowns were administered with little consideration that they might not only cause economic devastation but potentially more deaths than Covid-19 itself,' he claimed...

..Infection rates have continued to decline even once a lag period for new infections to become visible is factored in, the report says. The R rate shows how many people each virus patient typically infects, and some countries regard a rate below 1.0 as a key indicator that the epidemic is in retreat...

..This graph [not shown here] published in a JP Morgan report shows that many countries saw their infection rates fall rather than rise again when they ended their lockdowns - suggesting that the virus may have its own 'dynamics' which are 'unrelated' to the emergency measures. The JP Morgan report includes graphs showing that 'the vast majority of countries had decreased infection rates' after lockdowns were lifted.

A second graph [not shown here] shows a similar effect in the US, showing that many states saw a lower rate of transmission (R) after full-scale lockdowns were ended. They included Colorado, Iowa, Alabama, Wyoming, Wisconsin and Mississippi, according to the chart, although not all states are included. Nevada and North Dakota are among the exceptions which appear to have had a higher rate of transmission since normal life began to resume... The report also shows many US states including Alabama, Wisconsin and Colorado enjoying lower R rates after lockdown measures were lifted... All 50 US states have at least partially reopened this week by relaxing restrictions on businesses and social distancing in varying degrees across the country

'While we often hear that lockdowns are driven by scientific models, and that there is an exact relationship between the level of economic activity and the spread of [the] virus - this is not supported by the data,' the report says. 'Indeed, virtually everywhere infection rates have declined after re-opening even after allowing for an appropriate measurement lag.

'This means that the pandemic and Covid-19 likely have [their] own dynamics unrelated to often inconsistent lockdown measures that were being implemented.' Those dynamics may be influenced by increased hand-washing and even weather patterns but seemingly not by full-scale lockdowns, the report suggests. 'The fact that re-opening did not change the course of the pandemic is consistent with studies showing that initiation of full lockdowns did not alter the course of the pandemic either,' it says...

In some European countries, studies suggest that the measures 'did not produce any change in pandemic parameters' such as the R rate, the JP Morgan report says. Kolanovic says that lockdowns had remained in place even as 'our knowledge of the virus and lack of effectiveness of total lockdowns evolved'. 'At the same time, millions of livelihoods were being destroyed by these lockdowns,' he writes...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-course-pandemic-JP-Morgan-study-claims.html

Economically speaking yes from most establishments, but people making PPE profits a lot...

Spiritually, I think people became more aware of what life is all about, people pray more and maybe some who doesn't know God came to God during this time, probably the most profitable time in the whole evangelical world, probably I am not sure! I believe it is pre destined, it happen because it is supposed to happen to shake people and remind us what is most important in life and I guess some families became much more closer than ever. Some not all.

 

[man_gao]

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That is not the reason this is happening, God did not start this, the enemy did. However he is using it to wake up man to the futility of relying on mankind for there happiness , welfare and of course salvation. Do not depend on the world, depend on Jesus Christ and him alone. The world is coming to end and very quickly. BTW God has no interest or joy in the world, it is just a holding place for his precious people.[/QUOTE
I am in support of you with two scriptures.James 1:13 says’God cannot be tempted by evil’.Deuteronomy 32:4 says’His works are perfect and all his ways are good.A faithful God who does no wrong,upright and just is he’

 

[PennEd]

Mask fascism! Riots, and disrupting people’s meals by terrorizing them is fine. But off to the gulag if you dare to not wear a mask outside, with your family, far away from others. Outrageous beyond words!

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/br...outdoor-football-game-for-not-wearing-a-mask/

 

[Godsgirl83]

Mask fascism! Riots, and disrupting people’s meals by terrorizing them is fine. But off to the gulag if you dare to not wear a mask outside, with your family, far away from others. Outrageous beyond words!

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/br...outdoor-football-game-for-not-wearing-a-mask/

DANG! Okay, I have only watched like a minute and half out of 3 and half minutes.........

lets see, is he security or PD?
ummmm, here is a big black man in a uniform getting violent to a white woman.
(and I honestly don't like pulling race cards, but considering I'm in an area that was Domestically TERRORIZED after an incident with a white officer/black civilian..........
I most likely will not spend time looking into this one much further, but if anyone knows what the outcome from this was I would be interested in knowing)

 

[TheIndianGirl]

What do people think about the Bob Woodward interview? Trump admited he downplayed the virus in the early months. He said he did not want people to panic. Is this a good reason?

 

[Scribe]

What do people think about the Bob Woodward interview? Trump admited he downplayed the virus in the early months. He said he did not want people to panic. Is this a good reason?

I don't think he could have done anything to make any difference. People will do what they want and go where they want and spread it and all we could do is ask people to try to isolate but we know they won't. And they didn't. Neither the president nor anyone else could do anything to make people isolate. People are self centered and they are willing to take risks because the virus is invisible and they think it won't happen to them. What could Trump do? Enforce people to stay in their homes by posting the army in the street in front of their house? It would have been the only way. That would have worked.

 

[Scribe]

Too soon to tell. Texas spiked three weeks after public protests and I am wondering if they will trace it to the protesters.

My state is just starting their open up phase how could this study have been done already? Too soon.

I predict 250,000 deaths in the US by end of August. I predict a record spike in infection cases in one month from today. I am using simple logic. I hope I am wrong. If I am wrong I am predicting that the slow down will be directly related to the warmer weather and its effect on how the virus spreads.

My next prediction. The vaccine will be available no later than March of next year for all people in the US. Life will be back to normal for most people by August 2021. No closed anything. Masks not required anywhere. Antivaxxers will get sick from Covid and spread it to other antivaxxers or those who have not gotten around to getting vaccinated but it will be like "oh well, that's on them" as everyone else forgets about Covid 19 and the year 2020. Still wish I had put money on vaccine company stocks at the beginning. Not too late for those who have lots of money to invest.

 

[Scribe]

What do people think about the Bob Woodward interview? Trump admited he downplayed the virus in the early months. He said he did not want people to panic. Is this a good reason?

He did not down play it. Everything he said at the beginning was the truth. He said at the very first task force press release that the experts were telling him 250,000 would die before the bell shaped curve starts to decline. That is what happened. Except it is not declining yet but it will be in a few months with the vaccines.

So what did he down play. They said he was exaggerating when he announce 250K. Then they want to say he down played ignoring that first press conference when he shocked everyone with the experts death predictions of 250K.

His being recorded about not wanting to panic people is the same as saying "don't over exaggerate the facts please" and he did not.