Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"
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BTW, what do I need to avoid? I have answered all these questions numerous times already.
Election is God’s choice of whos, not what’s.
Election is based on God’s foreknowledge.
Predestination is the WHAT the elect are predestined to.
Before the foundation of the world is the WHEN this took place.
Election is God’s choice of whos, not what’s.
Election is based on God’s foreknowledge.
Predestination is the WHAT the elect are predestined to.
Before the foundation of the world is the WHEN this took place.
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Justin Martyr mentions the gospels as being FOUR in number and quotes from them, also quotes some of the epistles of Paul and from the Revelation of John
First of all it is a late manuscript. Secondly it has (per Wiki info) 85 lines.
I don't know what your point is.
I just know the bibles we have today are probably the best translations ever.
I also know that God is able to preserve His word to His people and keeps His hand on those who brings them to us.
They were not left without resources.
Early church fathers quoted so extensively from the New Testament in their writings that it is said the entire NT can be reproduced from their writings alone. NT books were in existence in their present form at the close of the apostolic age (end of 1st century)
100-147 Justin Martyr mentions the gospels as being FOUR in number and quotes from them, also quotes some of the epistles of Paul and from the Revelation of John
150 AD Tatian’s Diatesseron
150 AD Itala bible the bible of the Baptists, first used by early Christians and Waldenses. Translated from the TR
157 AD Old Latin Vulgate (original Vulgate, not the corrupt version by Jerome)
135-200AD Iraenaeus quoted from all the NT books except Philemon, Jude, James, and 3 John
I don't know what your point is.
I just know the bibles we have today are probably the best translations ever.
I also know that God is able to preserve His word to His people and keeps His hand on those who brings them to us.
They were not left without resources.
Early church fathers quoted so extensively from the New Testament in their writings that it is said the entire NT can be reproduced from their writings alone. NT books were in existence in their present form at the close of the apostolic age (end of 1st century)
100-147 Justin Martyr mentions the gospels as being FOUR in number and quotes from them, also quotes some of the epistles of Paul and from the Revelation of John
150 AD Tatian’s Diatesseron
150 AD Itala bible the bible of the Baptists, first used by early Christians and Waldenses. Translated from the TR
157 AD Old Latin Vulgate (original Vulgate, not the corrupt version by Jerome)
135-200AD Iraenaeus quoted from all the NT books except Philemon, Jude, James, and 3 John
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I'd faint if you ever admitted you are wrong.
penalty of sin is death.........however we are born with the sin of Adam imputed to us......spiritual and physical death.
and that is that.
Your theories are so blanketed in various scriptures out of context its a wonder you even understand your own views.
penalty of sin is death.........however we are born with the sin of Adam imputed to us......spiritual and physical death.
and that is that.
Your theories are so blanketed in various scriptures out of context its a wonder you even understand your own views.
Not once does Paul indicate a difference between sins. It's sin - period.
There is nothing to forgive. Either all our sins were forgiven at conversion, or none of them were. Asking God to forgive us for our sins after being born again is ridiculous. He has already forgiven them. Why are you asking for forgiveness for what has been washed away by the blood?
There is nothing to forgive. Either all our sins were forgiven at conversion, or none of them were. Asking God to forgive us for our sins after being born again is ridiculous. He has already forgiven them. Why are you asking for forgiveness for what has been washed away by the blood?
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Paul uses this term PROORIZO in reference to God setting him apart to service in Romans 1:1 and Galatians 1:15. In Galatians 1:15 he said he was set apart from his mother's womb. So much for the idea that some have that predestination happens after conversion. God didn't suddenly discover that we will believe one day. He has eternal, perfect, infallible foreknowledge of all things.
But we're all, myself included, way off topic.
But we're all, myself included, way off topic.
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While sins are forgiven
You start a thread on predestination and you will cause a riot! I don't mine a riot now and then. I'll be there!
Yes, without Paul there would be no Calvin.
These forums bring out the strange doctrines and a lot of misinformation that prevails in churches today.
That is why most 'reformed' gather in home churches of around 6 couples. In order to keep a church with all its expenses, there must be a congregation and congregations tend to have a few strange doctrines invade from time to time. It is also the place where a pastor must water down his message if he wants the church to survive.....and so a litle apostasy grows in those moldy sermons.
You start a thread on predestination and you will cause a riot! I don't mine a riot now and then. I'll be there!
Yes, without Paul there would be no Calvin.
These forums bring out the strange doctrines and a lot of misinformation that prevails in churches today.
That is why most 'reformed' gather in home churches of around 6 couples. In order to keep a church with all its expenses, there must be a congregation and congregations tend to have a few strange doctrines invade from time to time. It is also the place where a pastor must water down his message if he wants the church to survive.....and so a litle apostasy grows in those moldy sermons.
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