Global Warming, Is It A Man Made Hoax?

[Fundamental]

Good! For that is all I am trying to do - get people to think...


On the contrary. It does virtually every research the most good!


Indeed! And, if you are interested, I will try to illustrate something about paying attention to the details - using your own reference...


Dissect it all and you will find that the earth cannot possibly be a spinning ball flying through space...

No it doesn’t do our research good. People start doubting things they should not, things like gravity. We came to a generation where animations are needed to explain gravity on a fly hitchhiking a car.
They even started argumenting shadows reflected on the moon away by denying the moon as physical object, am I right?

Scientists around the world should end this debate once and for all by taking every flat earther high enough to see the curvature. But even down on earth the math can be done to conclude we live on a globe.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon

They have also performed math on the Chicago skyline over Lake Michican and they calculated the math on the horizon and it was yet again consistent with what we’d expect on a globe. This got debunked by flat earthers with a picture of a mirriage over that lake. That is not presenting details but scams because they want to believe something in denial. It’s almost like sticking both fingers in your ears and shouting “lalalalala” ^D

 

[Moses_Young]

They took pictures from other planets with voyager?

Is that like Santa riding around in a sled pulled by reindeer, landing on roof tops with his little elves, distributing presents down the chimney's?

Below. A photograph showing conclusive proof of Santa, his sled and reindeer. The only questions now are how does he get so many presents to the children of the world in one night, and what role do the little elves play in all of this?

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Because you have found IT? Come on now guys
Difference is I do share data following up my context. I’m a big conspiracy thinker myself, but it should not be all mixed together in different topics imho.

I really think those scientists investigating the south atlantic anomaly and our weakening magnetic field may be unto somehting huge. There is just too much we dont understand about the weather and climate.
We have not found it but it is sure intereting to investigate from different point of views.

Alas flat earthers are lacking substantial knowledge or data backing up the “knowledge”. Not to be mean it is just my observation.

Note that Flat Earth is an observation. It is what we see. We don't need to prove it. Spinning (heliocentric) and ball Earth are claims, as these are not observations. The burden of proof is on the heliocentrists and globalists to prove their theories, with evidence that can't be explained as adequately (or better), by a theory consistent with observation of a Flat Earth.

 

[GaryA]

I don’t always understand humor ...

I can tell that folks on here don't always understand my humor. So, that whole thing with loss of complete communication because it is not "in person" (with full sound effects and body language) can have a large effect on it. Sometimes it may test my/our patience, but I consider it best to try to give the writer the benefit-of-the-doubt as much as possible.

 

[GaryA]

It was disobeying God and implementing knowledge by making an elite group feel as gods and their people as servants.

This is EXACTLY what is happening today. How can anyone not see it???

The [present-day] 'elite' believe that they should rule the world (think: New World Order) and that everyone else should be their servants.

Do you not see this "in spades"...?

 

[GaryA]

It’s almost like sticking both fingers in your ears and shouting “lalalalala” ^D

This is EXACTLY the response that most folks produce when faced with the possibility that they have been lied to and "brain-washed" all of their life.

There is a term for the cause of that response: Cognitive Dissonance

 

[GaryA]

And, if you are interested, I will try to illustrate something about paying attention to the details - using your own reference...

Remember that statement? Well, that is what this post is all about...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_(spacecraft)

This is the reference of yours that I had in mind when I wrote that statement.

Did you notice that the article did not contain a real actual bona fide picture of the "spacecraft"?

Why is that?

Do you not think that - before they deployed it into space - they would have had more than ample opportunity to take loads-and-plenty of pictures of the finished satellite???

The fact that there are never any real actual bona fide pictures is a major clue!

These are the kind of 'details' that everyone needs to pay close attention to.

The "wool" is being "pulled over your eyes" - by convincing you to believe what you want to believe rather than what really is.

I am aware of those theories and cgi images from NASA. Well, I am aware of the accusations.

Why is an "Artist Illustration" or a CGI image the only thing NASA ever has to offer???

No real actual bona fide pictures??? Why???

Has it occurred to you yet that it just might be meaningful to search out those "accusations" to their natural conclusion?

Alas flat earthers are lacking substantial knowledge or data backing up the “knowledge”.

Or, there is no lack of knowledge or data; rather, there is simply a lack of understanding on the part of others who are "still stuck in the MATRIX" because they are "happy" having their minds "trapped" in the MATRIX (like Cypher).

There is plenty of knowledge - only, helping others to understand how that knowledge translates into something that makes enough sense to enable them to "open their eyes and see it" can be very difficult considering that the person has been trained from birth to "not see it"...

A person must first be able to "un-brainwash" themselves before they can "see it" clearly.

You are not going to be able to fully understand and accept 'Flat Earth' until you "un-brainwash" yourself from the 'Ball Earth' training you have received all of your life.

No it doesn’t do our research good. People start doubting things they should not, things like gravity.

YES - you should doubt 'gravity'.

You MUST be able to "suspend" all-that-you-think-you-know about the Earth while you examine "what really is" -- you CANNOT use 'gravity', for example, to build a Flat Earth construct - you MUST examine Flat Earth from a Flat Earth point of view - you CANNOT examine Flat Earth from a Ball Earth point of view.

Do you understand this???

Scientists around the world should end this debate once and for all by taking every flat earther high enough to see the curvature.

Scientists around the world - who desire others to believe that we are on a spinning ball flying through space - should actually PROVE it with REAL science!

It has never been proven!

You choose to believe it merely because it is what you have been told, shown, and taught all of your life.

But even down on earth the math can be done to conclude we live on a globe.

This is one of the key things most folks do not understand the truth about. And, it deserves its own post if not own thread.

Consider:

Math can be used to "describe" virtually anything - REAL or IMAGINED.

Just because "the math fits" doesn't mean that it is true in the real world.

Math is really good at showing the HOW and WHY of an idea; however, do not ever depend on it alone to convince you that an idea is TRUE.

Do you understand what I am trying to get across to you?

Below. A photograph showing conclusive proof of Santa, his sled and reindeer. The only questions now are how does he get so many presents to the children of the world in one night, and what role do the little elves play in all of this?

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Note that Flat Earth is an observation. It is what we see. We don't need to prove it. Spinning (heliocentric) and ball Earth are claims, as these are not observations. The burden of proof is on the heliocentrists and globalists to prove their theories, with evidence that can't be explained as adequately (or better), by a theory consistent with observation of a Flat Earth.

Children believe in Santa Claus because the idea has been illustrated to them in such a way that they want to believe that he is real - and - because they trust those who are telling them what is actually a lie.

Ball Earth is no different.

Everyone:

"You are an adult now. It is time to 'grow up' and realize that what you have been taught all of your life about the Earth is a lie..."

 

[Fundamental]

This is EXACTLY what is happening today. How can anyone not see it???

The [present-day] 'elite' believe that they should rule the world (think: New World Order) and that everyone else should be their servants.

Do you not see this "in spades"...?

I presented you the math on earth’s horizon making it very clear we are living on a globe.
Also check this;

why do you refuse to see that?

The NWO is a total different topic where we possibly would agree on.

 

[Fundamental]

Below. A photograph showing conclusive proof of Santa, his sled and reindeer. The only questions now are how does he get so many presents to the children of the world in one night, and what role do the little elves play in all of this?

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Note that Flat Earth is an observation. It is what we see. We don't need to prove it. Spinning (heliocentric) and ball Earth are claims, as these are not observations. The burden of proof is on the heliocentrists and globalists to prove their theories, with evidence that can't be explained as adequately (or better), by a theory consistent with observation of a Flat Earth.

The heliocentric model is an observation shared with billions of people having done the research themselves. It started out wrong thinking the sun revolved around the earth. But really smart people like Galileo started observing the nightskies and did the math on it over the years. It became clear to him that Venus was revolving around the sun and not the other way around.

You don’t understand that if a ball is big enough it would appear flat if you are standing on it?
Do you understand that math does not lie when it gives the same outcome by billions of observers?

 

[GaryA]

Math can be used to "describe" virtually anything - REAL or IMAGINED.

Just because "the math fits" doesn't mean that it is true in the real world.

In other words, the math "can be made to fit" virtually anything.

 

[Truth7t7]

I am aware of those theories and cgi images from NASA. Well, I am aware of the accusations.

But the deal is Truth, is global warming man made or has it been going on for centuries? What caused the greenhouse effect in Venus? I bet it wasn’t humans but normal events.
I really wanted to dig into this South Atlatnic anomaly and its effect on our magnetic field. From what I have researched it is very clear mankind did not cause global warming, but we can speed it up.

Global Warming Is Media Pushed PoliticL Propaganda, The Goals Are (Political) Part Of The Commie Leftist Machine In Shifting Wealth From Free Western World Countries To China And 3rd World Countries, Destroy Capitalism.

GlobL Warming = Eco-Socialism/Communism

 

[GaryA]

The NWO is a total different topic where we possibly would agree on.

And that would be a good thing; however - one of these days you are going to discover that it is all connected - and that the common connection is Satan.

"Just sayin'..."

 

[GaryA]

Go read post #111 again.

 

[Fundamental]

In other words, the math "can be made to fit" virtually anything.

Yes one plus one is eleven Gary.

 

[Fundamental]

Global Warming Is Media Pushed PoliticL Propaganda, The Goals Are (Political) Part Of The Commie Leftist Machine In Shifting Wealth From Free Western World Countries To China And 3rd World Countries, Destroy Capitalism.

GlobL Warming = Eco-Socialism/Communism

Agreed (in some way)

 

[GaryA]

The heliocentric model is an observation shared with billions of people having done the research themselves.

And you would rather take their word for it than to "observe" it [for] yourself?

You don’t understand that if a ball is big enough it would appear flat if you are standing on it?

That is [just] an 'idea' (which I certainly do understand) - whether it be true or not about the Earth.

Do you understand that math does not lie when it gives the same outcome by billions of observers?

Do you understand that the math will always give the same outcome to everyone who has been "trained" to make the outcome come out that way?

'observers'? Are we talking about math or observation? The two are not the same.

You don't need math to 'observe'.

Math is useful in explaining what you have [already] observed.

What have you actually observed?

 

[Fundamental]

And that would be a good thing; however - one of these days you are going to discover that it is all connected - and that the common connection is Satan.

"Just sayin'..."

We’re all in it and I highly doubt that flat earthers were spared deception.

 

[Fundamental]

And you would rather take their word for it than to "observe" it [for] yourself?


That is [just] an 'idea' (which I certainly do understand) - whether it be true or not about the Earth.


Do you understand that the math will always give the same outcome to everyone who has been "trained" to make the outcome come out that way?

'observers'? Are we talking about math or observation? The two are not the same.

You don't need math to 'observe'.

Math is useful in explaining what you have [already] observed.

What have you actually observed?

I have explored it myself! You can too. But you chose to ignore the facts I share. That last youtube movie could not be more explicit, can it? How would you make water turn the other side if our earth was really flat? All he had to do was move his bowl to the southern or nothern region of this earth.

We need math for everything Gary, everything.

 

[GaryA]

Yes one plus one is eleven Gary.

You are still not getting what I am saying.

The very same math can "prove" Ball Earth or Flat Earth - depending on what "assumption" you start with:

~ The Earth is a spinning ball flying through space like NASA says.
~ The Earth is fixed in place and does not move like the Bible says.

 

[GaryA]

We’re all in it and I highly doubt that flat earthers were spared deception.

No - just a whole lot less of it...

HAHA

 

[Fundamental]

Do you understand that the math will always give the same outcome to everyone who has been "trained" to make the outcome come out that way?

No because it is a univesal language. One stick next to another stick always equals 2 sticks.
When we know our earth’s radius we can calculate our distance to the horizon. There are just different formulas wheter you stand on or above sea level.

You are still not getting what I am saying.

The very same math can "prove" Ball Earth or Flat Earth - depending on what "assumption" you start with:

~ The Earth is a spinning ball flying through space like NASA says.
~ The Earth is fixed in place and does not move like the Bible says.

I do but you look at it from an illogical point of view. What is the formula on math for a flat earth? I would love to hear that. I bet you won’t find any solid one. IT can’t be done.
You say the math can be done on a flat earth, but can you really show that?

This technique (calculating the earth and by that forming its shape) is called geodesy.
Erastosthenes had many mathimatical techniques to determine the size of our earth. He calculated the size of our earth depending on reflections of the sun. This was not perfect but he got pretty close.