Why do Christians support Trump?

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tourist

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I am surprised that you need to ask that question. Supporting Trump is supporting the lesser of two evils. If you support the other side what will you get? Here are a few things to consider......

One. The death of millions of babies in the womb as they open the floodgates to abortion. is that what you want?
Two. Giving into every demand of homosexuals who will do all they can to have Christian beliefs banned from society. Is that what you want?
Three. They will make the truth an optional extra so anyone can say anything and it is OK. Is that what you want?
Four. They will wreck the economy because they will give handouts to anyone who wants one. Is that what you want?
Five. The borders will leak like a sieve and you will be flooded with illegal immigrants. Is that what you want?
Six. Those with money will be called on to finance those without money through taxes. Is that what you want?
Seven. Law and Order will go down the drain because the victim will become the bad guy. Is that what you want?
Eight. BLM will be given special status and they will be allowed to protest how and when they want. Is that what you want?
Nine. Joe Biden will quietly be retired so that the communist VP can take over and turn the country into a Marxist dictatorship. Is that what you want?
Ten. America will be withdrawn from helping others under threat so they become prey to people like China and Russia. Is that what you want?

I don't want any of those things to happen so I would not vote for Biden if he was the last man on earth.
...or Harris if she were the last woman on earth.
 
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Trump is not a Christian? Well, he certainly isn't a radical Muslim like Obama who was constantly apologizing for America's past. It is known that Trump always leads cabinet meetings with a prayer. He is also adamant in his support of protecting the lives of the unborn and those mere seconds from being born.
I am not denigrating the President, nor did I label him as a Muslim. I am only stating from the fruits he has displayed, he is not born again. I support the President and know he is a much better choice than Biden. But, although I support him, I am not an “always Trumper” because he has done many things I disagree with. He is a solid patriot, and politically, that is sufficient.
 

tourist

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I am not denigrating the President, nor did I label him as a Muslim. I am only stating from the fruits he has displayed, he is not born again. I support the President and know he is a much better choice than Biden. But, although I support him, I am not an “always Trumper” because he has done many things I disagree with. He is a solid patriot, and politically, that is sufficient.
I'm not always a Trumper either. :)
 

nancboo

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I just can not see any way to support him. Ok, so we are all sinners and of course he has sinned plenty. I do not see him repenting of anything. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, e admitted in recently released audio that he knew Covid 19 was dangerous and airborne. He admitted to lying and said he did not want to cause panic. But he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear. Besides, if he spoke to the public the way he spoke to Woodward, it would have saved many lives and possibly alleviated the economic crisis. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. Michael Cohen's book quotes him saying about Christians faith, "Can you believe that bulls...?" From my pint of view he hates God, hates Christians, hates America and humanity. I hope no Christian will vote for him this go around.
Firstly, I don't think King David was a great man and below is why I will vote for Trump:

What have PRESIDENT TRUMP and his cabinet accomplished you ask? Since the liberal media won't tell you, I 'll post accomplishments in just the first 3 years.
Here you go.
* Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.
* Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
* Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.👀👀
* Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected.
* Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.👀👀
* Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.
* Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.
* Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.
* Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.👀👀
* Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms.
* The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers.
* Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.
* Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.
* Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.👀👀
* He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.
* Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much fewer providers charge insurance companies.
* When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.
* Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.
* In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.
* He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.👀👀
* VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
* Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
* Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.
* Trump signed into law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
* Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.👀👀
* All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.
* Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price👀👀
* President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.
Continued on the next post due to character limitations.... or at least I will hopefully get this posting stuff right. :)
 

nancboo

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Firstly, I don't think King David was a great man and below is why I will vote for Trump:

What have PRESIDENT TRUMP and his cabinet accomplished you ask? Since the liberal media won't tell you, I 'll post accomplishments in just the first 3 years.
Here you go.
* Trump recently signed 3 bills to benefit Native people. One gives compensation to the Spokane tribe for loss of their lands in the mid-1900s, one funds Native language programs, and the third gives federal recognition to the Little Shell Tribe of Chippewa Indians in Montana.
* Trump finalized the creation of Space Force as our 6th Military branch.
* Trump signed a law to make cruelty to animals a federal felony so that animal abusers face tougher consequences.👀👀
* Violent crime has fallen every year he’s been in office after rising during the 2 years before he was elected.
* Trump signed a bill making CBD and Hemp legal.👀👀
* Trump’s EPA gave $100 million to fix the water infrastructure problem in Flint, Michigan.
* Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.
* Trump signed a law ending the gag orders on Pharmacists that prevented them from sharing money-saving information.
* Trump signed the “Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act” (FOSTA), which includes the “Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act” (SESTA) which both give law enforcement and victims new tools to fight sex trafficking.👀👀
* Trump signed a bill to require airports to provide spaces for breastfeeding Moms.
* The 25% lowest-paid Americans enjoyed a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country's highest-paid workers.
* Low-wage workers are benefiting from higher minimum wages and from corporations that are increasing entry-level pay.
* Trump signed the biggest wilderness protection & conservation bill in a decade and designated 375,000 acres as protected land.
* Trump signed the Save our Seas Act which funds $10 million per year to clean tons of plastic & garbage from the ocean.👀👀
* He signed a bill this year allowing some drug imports from Canada so that prescription prices would go down.
* Trump signed an executive order this year that forces all healthcare providers to disclose the cost of their services so that Americans can comparison shop and know how much fewer providers charge insurance companies.
* When signing that bill he said no American should be blindsided by bills for medical services they never agreed to in advance.
* Hospitals will now be required to post their standard charges for services, which include the discounted price a hospital is willing to accept.
* In the eight years prior to President Trump’s inauguration, prescription drug prices increased by an average of 3.6% per year. Under Trump, drug prices have seen year-over-year declines in nine of the last ten months, with a 1.1% drop as of the most recent month.
* He created a White House VA Hotline to help veterans and principally staffed it with veterans and direct family members of veterans.👀👀
* VA employees are being held accountable for poor performance, with more than 4,000 VA employees removed, demoted, and suspended so far.
* Issued an executive order requiring the Secretaries of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs to submit a joint plan to provide veterans access to access to mental health treatment as they transition to civilian life.
* Because of a bill signed and championed by Trump, In 2020, most federal employees will see their pay increase by an average of 3.1% — the largest raise in more than 10 years.
* Trump signed into law up to 12 weeks of paid parental leave for millions of federal workers.
* Trump administration will provide HIV prevention drugs for free to 200,000 uninsured patients per year for 11 years.👀👀
* All-time record sales during the 2019 holidays.
* Trump signed an order allowing small businesses to group together when buying insurance to get a better price👀👀
* President Trump signed the Preventing Maternal Deaths Act that provides funding for states to develop maternal mortality reviews to better understand maternal complications and identify solutions & largely focuses on reducing the higher mortality rates for Black Americans.
Continued on the next post due to character limitations.... or at least I will hopefully get this posting stuff right. :)
* In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill that enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.
* The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.👀👀
* The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in the sentencing of non-violent crimes.
* Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.
* The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.
* Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.👀👀
* Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
* New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.
* Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.
* Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.
* The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.👀👀
* Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
* President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water, Conservation Fund.
* Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.👀👀
* Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all-time high.
* More than 7 million jobs created since the election.
* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
* More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
* Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.👀👀
* Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
* Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.
* In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.
* Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.
* Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.
* Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.
* The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.


Continuing:...
 

nancboo

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* In 2018, President Trump signed the groundbreaking First Step Act, a criminal justice bill that enacted reforms that make our justice system fairer and help former inmates successfully return to society.
* The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed Black Americans and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.👀👀
* The First Step Act expanded judicial discretion in the sentencing of non-violent crimes.
* Over 90% of those benefitting from the retroactive sentencing reductions in the First Step Act are Black Americans.
* The First Step Act provides rehabilitative programs to inmates, helping them successfully rejoin society and not return to crime.
* Trump increased funding for Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) by more than 14%.👀👀
* Trump signed legislation forgiving Hurricane Katrina debt that threatened HBCUs.
* New single-family home sales are up 31.6% in October 2019 compared to just one year ago.
* Made HBCUs a priority by creating the position of executive director of the White House Initiative on HBCUs.
* Trump received the Bipartisan Justice Award at a historically black college for his criminal justice reform accomplishments.
* The poverty rate fell to a 17-year low of 11.8% under the Trump administration as a result of a jobs-rich environment.👀👀
* Poverty rates for African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans have reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.
* President Trump signed a bill that creates five national monuments, expands several national parks, adds 1.3 million acres of wilderness, and permanently reauthorizes the Land and Water, Conservation Fund.
* Trump’s USDA committed $124 Million to rebuild rural water infrastructure.👀👀
* Consumer confidence & small business confidence is at an all-time high.
* More than 7 million jobs created since the election.
* More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.
* More than 400,000 manufacturing jobs created since his election.
* Trump appointed 5 openly gay ambassadors.👀👀
* Trump ordered Ric Grenell, his openly gay ambassador to Germany, to lead a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality across the globe.
* Through Trump’s Anti-Trafficking Coordination Team (ACTeam) initiative, Federal law enforcement more than doubled convictions of human traffickers and increased the number of defendants charged by 75% in ACTeam districts.
* In 2018, the Department of Justice (DOJ) dismantled an organization that was the internet’s leading source of prostitution-related advertisements resulting in sex trafficking.
* Trump’s OMB published new anti-trafficking guidance for government procurement officials to more effectively combat human trafficking.
* Trump’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Homeland Security Investigations arrested 1,588 criminals associated with Human Trafficking.
* Trump’s Department of Health and Human Services provided funding to support the National Human Trafficking Hotline to identify perpetrators and give victims the help they need.
* The hotline identified 16,862 potential human trafficking cases.


Continuing:...
* Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.👀👀
* The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.
* President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.👀👀
* The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.
* The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.👀👀
* Under his leadership, ISIS has lost most of its territory and been largely dismantled.
* ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.
* Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
* Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
* Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.
* Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.
* President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.
* Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
* Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.
* Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.👀👀
* Withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing TPP deal.
* Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
* Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.👀👀
* Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.
* Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.
* Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.
* The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
* Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.👀👀
* President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
* 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.
* Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.
* Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
* Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.
* Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.👀👀
* Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.
* Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.
* Stock Market has reached record highs.
* Median household income has hit the highest level ever recorded.
* African-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Asian-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low.
* Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.
* We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.
* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.
* As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.👀👀
* Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.
* Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.🙌🙌
* Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.
* Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.👀👀
* Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try an experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.
* Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.❤️❤️
* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.👀👀
* U.S. oil production recently reached an all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.
* The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in carbon emissions.👀👀
 

nancboo

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* Trump’s DOJ provided grants to organizations that support human trafficking victims – serving nearly 9,000 cases from July 1, 2017, to June 30, 2018.👀👀
* The Department of Homeland Security has hired more victim assistance specialists, helping victims get resources and support.
* President Trump has called on Congress to pass school choice legislation so that no child is trapped in a failing school because of his or her zip code.👀👀
* The President signed funding legislation in September 2018 that increased funding for school choice by $42 million.
* The tax cuts signed into law by President Trump promote school choice by allowing families to use 529 college savings plans for elementary and secondary education.👀👀
* Under his leadership, ISIS has lost most of its territory and been largely dismantled.
* ISIS leader Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi was killed.
* Signed the first Perkins CTE reauthorization since 2006, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.
* Executive order expanding apprenticeship opportunities for students and workers.
* Trump issued an Executive Order prohibiting the U.S. government from discriminating against Christians or punishing expressions of faith.
* Signed an executive order that allows the government to withhold money from college campuses deemed to be anti-Semitic and who fail to combat anti-Semitism.
* President Trump ordered a halt to U.S. tax money going to international organizations that fund or perform abortions.
* Trump imposed sanctions on the socialists in Venezuela who have killed their citizens.
* Finalized new trade agreement with South Korea.
* Made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.👀👀
* Withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing TPP deal.
* Secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.
* Okay’d up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation.👀👀
* Has had over a dozen US hostages freed, including those Obama could not get freed.
* Trump signed the Music Modernization Act, the biggest change to copyright law in decades.
* Trump secured Billions that will fund the building of a wall at our southern border.
* The Trump Administration is promoting second chance hiring to give former inmates the opportunity to live crime-free lives and find meaningful employment.
* Trump’s DOJ and the Board Of Prisons launched a new “Ready to Work Initiative” to help connect employers directly with former prisoners.👀👀
* President Trump’s historic tax cut legislation included new Opportunity Zone Incentives to promote investment in low-income communities across the country.
* 8,764 communities across the country have been designated as Opportunity Zones.
* Opportunity Zones are expected to spur $100 billion in long-term private capital investment in economically distressed communities across the country.
* Trump directed the Education Secretary to end Common Core.👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
* Trump signed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund into law.
* Trump signed measure funding prevention programs for Veteran suicide.👀👀
* Companies have brought back over a TRILLION dollars from overseas because of the TCJA bill that Trump signed.
* Manufacturing jobs are growing at the fastest rate in more than 30 years.
* Stock Market has reached record highs.
* Median household income has hit the highest level ever recorded.
* African-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Hispanic-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Asian-American unemployment is at an all-time low.
* Women’s unemployment rate is at a 65-year low.
* Youth unemployment is at a 50-year low.
* We have the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded.
* The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.
* 95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future— the highest ever.
* As a result of the Republican tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.👀👀
* Record number of regulations eliminated that hurt small businesses.
* Signed welfare reform requiring able-bodied adults who don’t have children to work or look for work if they’re on welfare.🙌🙌
* Under Trump, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history.
* Reformed Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors 100’s of millions of $$$ this year alone.👀👀
* Signed Right-To-Try legislation allowing terminally ill patients to try an experimental treatment that wasn’t allowed before.
* Secured $6 billion in new funding to fight the opioid epidemic.❤️❤️
* Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.👀👀
* U.S. oil production recently reached an all-time high so we are less dependent on oil from the Middle East.
* The U.S. is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.
* NATO allies increased their defense spending because of his pressure campaign.
* Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord in 2017 and that same year the U.S. still led the world by having the largest reduction in carbon emissions.👀👀
* Has his circuit court judge nominees being confirmed faster than any other new administration.
* Had his Supreme Court Justice’s Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh confirmed.
* Moved U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.👀👀
* Agreed to a new trade deal with Mexico & Canada that will increase jobs here and $$$ coming in.
* Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.
* Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices, has agreed to a Part One trade deal with China.
* Signed legislation to improve the National Suicide Hotline.👀👀
* Signed the most comprehensive childhood cancer legislation ever into law, which will advance childhood cancer research and improve treatments.

* The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act signed into law by Trump doubled the maximum amount of the child tax credit available to parents and lifted the income limits so more people could claim it.
* It also created a new tax credit for other dependents.
* In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding increase for the Child Care and Development Fund, providing a total of $8.1 billion to states to fund child care for low-income families.
* The Child and Dependent Care Tax Credit (CDCTC) signed into law by Trump provides a tax credit equal to 20-35% of child care expenses, $3,000 per child & $6,000 per family + Flexible Spending Accounts (FSAs) allow you to set aside up to $5,000 in pre-tax $ to use for child care.
* In 2019 President Donald Trump signed the Autism Collaboration, Accountability, Research, Education and Support Act (CARES) into law which allocates $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years to help people with autism spectrum disorder and to help their families.👀👀
* In 2019 President Trump signed into law two funding packages providing nearly $19 million in new funding for Lupus specific research and education programs, as well an additional $41.7 billion in funding for the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the most Lupus funding EVER.
* Another upcoming accomplishment to add: In the next week or two Trump will be signing the first major anti-robocall law in decades called the TRACED Act (Telephone Robocall Abuse Criminal Enforcement and Deterrence.) Once it’s the law, the TRACED Act will extend the period of time the FCC has to catch & punish those who intentionally break telemarketing restrictions. The bill also requires voice service providers to develop a framework to verify calls are legitimate before they reach your phone.
* US stock market continually hits all-time record highs.
* Because so many people asked for a document with all of this listed in one place, here it is. No links provided to remove bias as Google search is easy. Print this out for family, friends, neighbors, etc. I encourage you to drop this list off to voters before the 2020 election too!
*Trump did all of this while fighting flagrant abuse and impeachment charges.


hopefully this all posted correctly God Bless
 
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I just can not see any way to support him. Ok, so we are all sinners and of course he has sinned plenty. I do not see him repenting of anything. He condoned the the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi. He has numerous close ties to organized crime, e admitted in recently released audio that he knew Covid 19 was dangerous and airborne. He admitted to lying and said he did not want to cause panic. But he is constantly trying to cause panic by exaggerating threats from migrants and exaggerating Democrats as being radical, instilling unnecessary fear. Besides, if he spoke to the public the way he spoke to Woodward, it would have saved many lives and possibly alleviated the economic crisis. I see him being anti-Christian in everything he does as says. Michael Cohen's book quotes him saying about Christians faith, "Can you believe that bulls...?" From my pint of view he hates God, hates Christians, hates America and humanity. I hope no Christian will vote for him this go around.
There are those who, like our founders, see the state as a servant of the people.

Now there those who, like communists, see people as servants of the state.

I think it's obvious which is which.

One enshrines killing innocent people into law. The same makes killing people a solution for social ills.
 

mustaphadrink

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After reading all that I wonder when Trump has time to breathe.

Here is what the Democrats are planning to do...

One. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.

Two. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.

Three. Make it easier to kill more babies in the womb.
 
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Kim82

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I am not denigrating the President, nor did I label him as a Muslim. I am only stating from the fruits he has displayed, he is not born again. I support the President and know he is a much better choice than Biden. But, although I support him, I am not an “always Trumper” because he has done many things I disagree with. He is a solid patriot, and politically, that is sufficient.
I like your balanced views. I don't know whether Rastai read your comments, but I think he would have benefited from it.
 
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Kim82

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When the leader or the political party that you support does wrong, you can't blind your eyes to it, or say that's nothing, and dismiss those who raise objections as being evil or unchristian. Im sure that this is a big turn off for undecided voters.

Also, by not condoning wrongful acts by the leader/government, that doesn't necessarily mean that you support the opposition. But if you tell those people (especially other Christians) that they are evil and unchristian, the opposition party is there waiting to welcome them with open arms.

When you act unfair and when you insult people into voting this way or that way, how is that Christian and what did you achieve?
 

true_believer

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Trump is clearly a narcissist among other things. Supporting him I think would be unethical on many levels.
 
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I am A political. I have seen and researched thoroughly how the republican party has betrayed christianity and it not run on or gain christian principals. However the democrat party is open satanism. Research the church of satan and they have no differences. Watched lisa ling investigation on the church of satan and she openly completely agreed with them on all issues. Which was odd because normally the investigator trys to just tell the story.

If you support the democrat party you have zero chance of going to heaven. But supporting the republican party will not get you into heaven. Two sides of the same coin. The road is another direction. Just like being a doctor will not get you into heaven. But being an abortion doctor will guarantee you will not. The govt is another religion against the people.
 
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I am A political. I have seen and researched thoroughly how the republican party has betrayed christianity and it not run on or gain christian principals. However the democrat party is open satanism. Research the church of satan and they have no differences. Watched lisa ling investigation on the church of satan and she openly completely agreed with them on all issues. Which was odd because normally the investigator trys to just tell the story.

If you support the democrat party you have zero chance of going to heaven. But supporting the republican party will not get you into heaven. Two sides of the same coin. The road is another direction. Just like being a doctor will not get you into heaven. But being an abortion doctor will guarantee you will not. The govt is another religion against the people.
I don't think Christians are looking to install a theocracy, but there are several parties that are objectively better than the democratic party in the USA.

When an investigative journalist tells you their opinion on something they are actually just suggesting a way to interpret the story. It's propaganda. To her audience it is actually just encouraging them gave a name to their beliefs and the message is clear: it isn't just democratism any more; it's satanism.

Just out of curiosity, how do you think someone gets to heaven?
 
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I don’t judge anyone on what political party they wish to vote for, I do support the Republican side.

I will say that Trump is not the best, and he has said stuff that will probably come to hurt his reputation later on in life, but I’ve been talking about politics with my family, it’s less voting for Trump because you like Trump, and it’s more about voting for which platform you agree with, if you agree what the Republicans are trying to do or what the Democrats are trying to do. That’s what I’ve realized with politics nowadays.
 

rastai

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Trump and republican party elite are ungodly conmen. That is how I see it. I see the Democratic party as following Christian values at a much higher frequency. I am sorry to say most of you all have been fooled. Trump is a mafia man(literally) who is doing what he can to destroy and cause harm to America. He does not love or care for America, quite the opposite. I could never in good conscious pull the lever for any Republican at this point in time. Everything is illusion and we all know who the father of illusion is. I maintain that a compassionate government where we, through our good fortune, are able, and, therefore should, support specifically: The poor, the immigrant, the disadvantaged, the unfortunate. True wealth is accomplished through generousity. the US has a chance to make the world better. Our main goals should be to eradicate homelessness, poverty, disease and hunger. And since the abundance of God is limitless, we can actually accomplish these things without losing our quality of life.

What the Republican party has done since 1980, through the scam called trickle down economics, redistributed the wealth from the poor, the middle class, and even the upper middle class towards the ultra rich billionaires. Your opinions that make you think that Republicans are the more Christian party are bought and paid for by these people whom should not be trusted.

When you say abortion should be illegal but then at the same time you want to cut social welfare, cut safety regulation, cut environmental regulation, cut taxes on the wealthiest 1%, deny people the right of education, health care and equal protection under the law, when you do those things you look cruel and inhumane and hypocritical and you actually push people away from God and make abortion more acceptable. Studies have shown that socio-economic condition are what influence abortion.

Once you support children after they are born, make sure they have good food, a good education, a safe environment, that is when you will see people move toward God and away from abortion and that is also when your arguments will hold more water when you want to limit or make it illegal. All I see republican platform doing is moving people towards crime, abortion and other ungodliness.
 
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Trump and republican party elite are ungodly conmen. That is how I see it. I see the Democratic party as following Christian values at a much higher frequency. I am sorry to say most of you all have been fooled. Trump is a mafia man(literally) who is doing what he can to destroy and cause harm to America. He does not love or care for America, quite the opposite. I could never in good conscious pull the lever for any Republican at this point in time. Everything is illusion and we all know who the father of illusion is. I maintain that a compassionate government where we, through our good fortune, are able, and, therefore should, support specifically: The poor, the immigrant, the disadvantaged, the unfortunate. True wealth is accomplished through generousity. the US has a chance to make the world better. Our main goals should be to eradicate homelessness, poverty, disease and hunger. And since the abundance of God is limitless, we can actually accomplish these things without losing our quality of life.

What the Republican party has done since 1980, through the scam called trickle down economics, redistributed the wealth from the poor, the middle class, and even the upper middle class towards the ultra rich billionaires. Your opinions that make you think that Republicans are the more Christian party are bought and paid for by these people whom should not be trusted.

When you say abortion should be illegal but then at the same time you want to cut social welfare, cut safety regulation, cut environmental regulation, cut taxes on the wealthiest 1%, deny people the right of education, health care and equal protection under the law, when you do those things you look cruel and inhumane and hypocritical and you actually push people away from God and make abortion more acceptable. Studies have shown that socio-economic condition are what influence abortion.

Once you support children after they are born, make sure they have good food, a good education, a safe environment, that is when you will see people move toward God and away from abortion and that is also when your arguments will hold more water when you want to limit or make it illegal. All I see republican platform doing is moving people towards crime, abortion and other ungodliness.
That's a lot of words to say that Republicans somehow support abortion by being anti-abortion. In fact that just doesn't even make sense.

I think that what you're trying to say is that individuals support abortion and that those who are seeking abortion under an anti-abortion regime will seek out a means to that end regardless. The government not enabling people to get abortions does not place guilt upon the head of Republicans.

The false and unChristian doctrine that you are preaching is that people should have the right to have safe abortions and that the government owes it to them.

Nothing could be further from the truth. It shouldn't come as any surprise that someone who is morally and spiritually bankrupt enough to seek an abortion would also not take responsibility for their own heinous crimes against humanity.

That's the democrat party that you are voting for.
 

true_believer

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Trump and republican party elite are ungodly conmen. That is how I see it. I see the Democratic party as following Christian values at a much higher frequency. I am sorry to say most of you all have been fooled. Trump is a mafia man(literally) who is doing what he can to destroy and cause harm to America. He does not love or care for America, quite the opposite. I could never in good conscious pull the lever for any Republican at this point in time. Everything is illusion and we all know who the father of illusion is. I maintain that a compassionate government where we, through our good fortune, are able, and, therefore should, support specifically: The poor, the immigrant, the disadvantaged, the unfortunate. True wealth is accomplished through generousity. the US has a chance to make the world better. Our main goals should be to eradicate homelessness, poverty, disease and hunger. And since the abundance of God is limitless, we can actually accomplish these things without losing our quality of life.

What the Republican party has done since 1980, through the scam called trickle down economics, redistributed the wealth from the poor, the middle class, and even the upper middle class towards the ultra rich billionaires. Your opinions that make you think that Republicans are the more Christian party are bought and paid for by these people whom should not be trusted.

When you say abortion should be illegal but then at the same time you want to cut social welfare, cut safety regulation, cut environmental regulation, cut taxes on the wealthiest 1%, deny people the right of education, health care and equal protection under the law, when you do those things you look cruel and inhumane and hypocritical and you actually push people away from God and make abortion more acceptable. Studies have shown that socio-economic condition are what influence abortion.

Once you support children after they are born, make sure they have good food, a good education, a safe environment, that is when you will see people move toward God and away from abortion and that is also when your arguments will hold more water when you want to limit or make it illegal. All I see republican platform doing is moving people towards crime, abortion and other ungodliness.
The irony is that Obama and his wife attend church every week. Trump goes to church occasionally for publicity.
 

gb9

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The irony is that Obama and his wife attend church every week. Trump goes to church occasionally for publicity.
going to a church service does not prove anything.

i mean, a person can go to a church service and go get into their car, and stream porn.


did going into a building make that o.k. ??
 
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The Democratic platform is founded on a utilitarian morality. Down that road look forward to human life being reduced to a farmed commodity. The elderly having a moral obligation to end their lives in a timely manner. Human conceptions cropped, culled and harvested to meet the current fashions. The state will not serve the people. Human life will be at the service of the state.
There is a statement in Revelation that I think describes Communism "they breathed their life into the statue" .