Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[Truth7t7]

John 3:16 is not a covenant. It's a statement of fact. Look up the verses throughout the Bible with the word covenant. That's where one should begin if curious about covenants.

I been at this over 40 years, Big Smiles!

That Shed Blood Below Is A Covenant With Man, It Took Place On The Cross Of Calvary

Will You Now Bend And Twist This Very Basic Truth?

Hebrews 13:20KJV
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant

Hebrews 12:23-24KJV
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

 

[Kolistus]

Do you believe there will still be a coming tribulation coming to the world, after the body of Christ is raptured?

If so, then it will be important to rightly divide the word of truth between Romans to Philemon, and the epistles written to Israel that were placed after those books by the Holy Spirit

If you don’t, then I Guess from your view, it won’t matter

I know about the idea of dividing them that way, but WHY should we? Is there anything at all in the Bible that differentiates between jews and gentiles after the resurrection of Jesus?

 

[Truth7t7]

I know about the idea of dividing them that way, but WHY should we? Is there anything at all in the Bible that differentiates between jews and gentiles after the resurrection of Jesus?

Neither Jew Nor Gentlie

When Jesus gave up the ghost, the veil in the temple was rent, out with the old, in with the new, it's all about the shed blood on Calvary.

When God looks at man he sees man, saved/unsaved no in-between, God has no respect for person.

 

[John146]

I been at this over 40 years, Big Smiles!

That Shed Blood Below Is A Covenant With Man, It Took Place On The Cross Of Calvary

Will You Now Bend And Twist This Very Basic Truth?

Hebrews 13:20KJV
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant

Hebrews 12:23-24KJV
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

The way I study the bible about covenants, I actually look for the word covenant. That's just me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please Post the scripture with your claim of a separate covenant existing with man outside of the cross of Calvary, waiting?

God dosent have any covenant with man presently, outside of the shed blood on Calvary and salvation of man.

Gen 15, 17, lev 26. I can go on and on

Forever means forever

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Post scripture and all your claims of these covenants that exist currently with man on earth, waiting?

So you never heard of the abrahamic covenant. The Palestinian covenant the Davidic covenant the Mosaic covenant and the new covenant

My friend if you have not heard of these how can I trust you with anything concerning the covenants if God

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know about the idea of dividing them that way, but WHY should we? Is there anything at all in the Bible that differentiates between jews and gentiles after the resurrection of Jesus?

Yep
Romans 11 for 1. Also in revelation. The woman vs her children

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Neither Jew Nor Gentlie

When Jesus gave up the ghost, the veil in the temple was rent, out with the old, in with the new, it's all about the shed blood on Calvary.

When God looks at man he sees man, saved/unsaved no in-between, God has no respect for person.

For salvation yes amen

But Gods Separate covenant with the nation of Israel still stands.

 

[Guojing]

I know about the idea of dividing them that way, but WHY should we? Is there anything at all in the Bible that differentiates between jews and gentiles after the resurrection of Jesus?

The Jews and Gentiles who are included in the Body of Christ will be raptured into heaven.

But the Tribulation will be the time where Israel, the nation, will be judged. Israel must endure to the end of those 7 years, before their Lord Jesus will return for them once again.

An example of how the latter epistles, placed after Philemon will then apply to the nation Israel, in that situation, will be 1 Peter 4:12-19

12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

So if the Body of Christ is thinking of applying that passage now, you see a problem?

 

[throughfaith]

Key words...”from your perspective”.
People believe how they believe...why do you continue to tell everyone they are wrong? Are you God? Seriously, you are getting to be too much...from my perspective....

I'm being told I'm wrong for telling people their wrong?

 

[Truth7t7]

Gen 15, 17, lev 26. I can go on and on

Forever means forever

There is no future land covenants with an ethnic people Jews.

All the seed covenants concerning Isaac have been fulfilled In Jesus Christ.

Dual Covenant Theology is nothing more than Zionism, with the unsaved antichrist Jews looking at land covenants.

The future covenant and promise is Mt. Zion in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem.

Do you also believe as Dispensationalism, in a future renewed levitical priesthood, with animal sacrifice blessed by God?

 

[Truth7t7]

For salvation yes amen

But Gods Separate covenant with the nation of Israel still stands.

Dual Covenant Theology, A False Zionist Teaching Of Man.

God Has No Future Plan For Israel/Jerusalem outside of Judgement and salvation for the remnant chosen, to be added to the Church.

 

[Truth7t7]

The Jews and Gentiles who are included in the Body of Christ will be raptured into heaven.

But the Tribulation will be the time where Israel, the nation, will be judged. Israel must endure to the end of those 7 years, before their Lord Jesus will return for them once again.

An example of how the latter epistles, placed after Philemon will then apply to the nation Israel, in that situation, will be 1 Peter 4:12-19

12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

So if the Body of Christ is thinking of applying that passage now, you see a problem?

There is no such thing as a Pre-Trib rapture found in the holy bible, an invention of John N. Darby and C.I. Scofield, known as Dispensationalism

 

[eternally-gratefull]

There is no future land covenants with an ethnic people Jews.

All the seed covenants concerning Isaac have been fulfilled In Jesus Christ.

Dual Covenant Theology is nothing more than Zionism, with the unsaved antichrist Jews looking at land covenants.

The future covenant and promise is My, Zion in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem.

Genesis 17:7–8 (NKJV): And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
so your saying these eternal promises are no longer valid? That God lied?

Paul disagrees as he said the GIFTS of god are irrevocable (rom 11)

Do you also believe as Dispensationalism, in a future renewed levitical priesthood, with animal sacrifice blessed by God?

I believe as the Bible says that no animal sacrificed ever removed sin it was a symbol a teaching tool and that God keeps his promises
I would hope you believed that also again if he will not keep his promise to them you have no assurance he will keep his covenant with you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Dual Covenant Theology, A False Zionist Teaching Of Man.

God Has No Future Plan For Israel/Jerusalem outside of Judgement and salvation for the remnant chosen, to be added to the Church.

Back off dude your not giving any biblical proof and you are attacking people based on your belief

 

[John146]

There is no future land covenants with an ethnic people Jews.

All the seed covenants concerning Isaac have been fulfilled In Jesus Christ.

Dual Covenant Theology is nothing more than Zionism, with the unsaved antichrist Jews looking at land covenants.

The future covenant and promise is Mt. Zion in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem.

Do you also believe as Dispensationalism, in a future renewed levitical priesthood, with animal sacrifice blessed by God?

Hmmmmm...I wonder why that little piece of land has had so much controversy through the years...

 

[Guojing]

There is no such thing as a Pre-Trib rapture found in the holy bible, an invention of John N. Darby and C.I. Scofield, known as Dispensationalism

In that case, are you believing judgement to come to you in the future, from God, as what Peter would state in 1 Peter 4:17?

 

[Truth7t7]

Genesis 17:7–8 (NKJV): And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. 8 Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”
so your saying these eternal promises are no longer valid? That God lied?

Paul disagrees as he said the GIFTS of god are irrevocable (rom 11)


I believe as the Bible says that no animal sacrificed ever removed sin it was a symbol a teaching tool and that God keeps his promises
I would hope you believed that also again if he will not keep his promise to them you have no assurance he will keep his covenant with you

God did keep his promise to the (Seed) and that seed is the (Church)

The promise to the seed is by faith in the Cross of Calvary.

Romans 4:13KJV
For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.

Ethnic Jews of the flesh are not the children of God, the church of the (Promise) are the seed.

Read it again and again, God has no covenant with Jews of the flesh, none!

How do you have a covenant with an ethnic group, when the word clearly states "They Are Not God's Children"?

Romans 9:8KJV
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

 

[Truth7t7]

In that case, are you believing judgement to come to you in the future, from God, as what Peter would state in 1 Peter 4:17?

What judgement, the church will go through the tribulation divinely protected by God.

The tribulation is going to be a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt.

Revelation 11 the (Two Witnesses) Prophets returned will bring all plagues upon the world as often as they will, just like in Egypt.

Were the Hebrews running around scared when Moses/Aaron were in action, did the plagues come on the Hebrews, No

It's gonna be a complete remake, and the Lord Jesus Christ is in charge.

 

[John146]

What judgement, the church will go through the tribulation divinely protected by God.

Well, the church is the body of Christ. There are millions of members in heaven who have already passed away. Will they be resurrected to go through the tribulation? Or only part of the body of Christ will go through this judgment?