Today’s church’s misunderstandings

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Nehemiah6

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The Word never designates the 1st day as special, nor does it say He rose on the 1st day, but rather all 4 gospels state He ha already risen before the 1st day.
The FACT that the apostle John mentions the LORD'S DAY in Revelation should suffice. That is not tradition but divine revelation. The Lord's Table and the Lord's Supper belong to the Lord's Day. And it is definitely not the Sabbath, since had it been the Sabbath, it would not have been called "the Lord's Day".

As to the claim that the Lord arose on the Sabbath, that is patently false on the face of it. The Sabbath means REST, and the Lord would not rise on the day which He designated for His own rest. The end of the Sabbath = the beginning of the first day of the week. So the first day of the week began at sunset on Saturday and ended at sunset on Sunday. However the Lord probably rose from the dead after midnight. Christ is called the First Fruits of them that slept, and that fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits on the morrow AFTER the Sabbath.

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest: And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. (Lev 23:10,11)
 
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The FACT that the apostle John mentions the LORD'S DAY in Revelation should suffice. That is not tradition but divine revelation. The Lord's Table and the Lord's Supper belong to the Lord's Day. And it is definitely not the Sabbath, since had it been the Sabbath, it would not have been called "the Lord's Day".

As to the claim that the Lord arose on the Sabbath, that is patently false on the face of it. The Sabbath means REST, and the Lord would not rise on the day which He designated for His own rest. The end of the Sabbath = the beginning of the first day of the week. So the first day of the week began at sunset on Saturday and ended at sunset on Sunday. However the Lord probably rose from the dead after midnight. Christ is called the First Fruits of them that slept, and that fulfilled the Feast of First Fruits on the morrow AFTER the Sabbath.

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest: And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it. (Lev 23:10,11)
Firstfruits is the presenting to the Father, that is why Mary could not touch Him:

John 20:17-18,Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”-and that he had said these things to her.

In Revelations 1:10 no where does it say it is the 1st day, you are just making up what day John was having a vision on...

Rev1:10, "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's (G2960) day, (G2250) and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet."

Lord's G2960 κυριακός kuriakos (kï-riy-a-kos') adj.belonging to the Lord (Jehovah or Jesus).
[from G2962] KJV: Lord's Root(s): G2962 Lord κύριος kurios (kï '-riy-os) n.

DAY referring to the Sabbath (Luke 4:16; 13:14; 16; 14:15; John 5:9; Acts:13:14)

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He was already risen by then..

every gospel says it:

Matthew 28:1-6, “But late in the sabbath, as it was dawning into day one of the week, Miryam from Maḡdala and the other Miryam came to see the tomb. And see, there was a great earthquake, for a messenger of יהוה came down out of heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat on it. And his appearance was like lightning, and his garments as white as snow. And the guards trembled for fear of him, and became like dead men. And the messenger responding, said to the women, “Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek יהושע who was impaled. He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Master lay.”

“it was dawning into day one of the week”...“He is not here, for He was raised”

Mark 16:1-6, “And when the Sabbath was past, Miryam from Maḡdala, and Miryam the mother of Ya‛aqoḇ, and Shelomah bought spices, to go and anoint Him. And very early on day one of the week, they came to the tomb when the sun had risen. And they said among themselves, “Who shall roll away the stone from the entrance of the tomb for us?” And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled away, for it was extremely large. And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, wearing a white robe, and they were greatly astonished. And he said to them, “Do not be much astonished. You seek יהושע of Natsareth, who was impaled. He was raised – He is not here! See the place where they laid Him.”

“very early on day one of the week”...“He was raised – He is not here”

Luke 24:1-3, “But on day one of the week, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and they found the stone rolled away from the tomb. And having entered, they did not find the body of the Master יהושע.”

“on day one of the week, at early dawn”...“they did not find the body of the Master יהושע”

John 20:1, “And on the first day of the week Miryam from Maḡdala came early to the tomb, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb.”

“on the first day of the week”...“the stone had been removed from the tomb”
 
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Well the only people I know who do this are people who are trying to earn their salvation by producing self righteousness and not the righteousness which comes From God in faith
Well many believe and teach a doctrine of sinful perfection.
There are those who teach that ceasing from sin in this life is an impossibility, contrary to the full word of God.

They reject faith in God to do the real work of salvation in their lives, teaching an easy believing as a false Gospel.
They end up being deceived and calling Him Lord Lord and honoring Him with their lips but having hearts still burdened with sin and far away from God because they believe such a lie. The result is they are not among those who purify themselves just as he is pure and show that their hope is not in God through Christ by the absence of that work of Faith.

Let us call to every believer to live a life after Christ and walk according to the Spirit!
Let us purify ourselves as ones who hope is in Him!

Let us pray search me and know me oh God and know (show) my heart, test me and know (show) my anxious thoughts and see (expose) if any hurtful way (sin) in me and lead me in your everlasting way.
We purify ourselves in bringing our sinful motives of our hearts into the light to be exposed.
It is how we go about cleaning the inside of the cup so we might be clean outside as well.

Gods word says we do not have because we do not ask for it and we should expect nothing when asking without believing he can and will do it.
Let us approach the removal of sin with a willingness to suffer in order to live our lives pleasing to God and not continue to walk according to the flesh and die to the righteousness of His salvation that is laid hold of by our faith..
 

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I already did. What you're doing is like others I read on the net. You think you didn't accuse a Christian of worshiping a dead Christ because you did not say specifically those words, you worship a dead Christ.
However, you worded your remarks to a member here so that the readers could infer precisely that and without stating it directly.


I reconciled all of it with my post and scripture proofs.
I don't expect anyone who thinks Jesus rose on Sunday to change their minds regardless of the scripture, the Hebrew Nisan, or any other evidence to support the fact Jesus arose on Saturday.

I'm not going to go back and forth on this. The Bible says what it says. People believe what they want to believe.
I'm sorry you did not reconcile the comment you made with scripture that is why I asked you. You have deflected my question to you.

"You think you didn't accuse a Christian of worshiping a dead Christ because you did not say specifically those words, you worship a dead Christ. "

What a completely false statement. I did not accuse anyone anything no matter what you think you have seen on the net LOL. I did not say those words at all. Thank you, we can stop this dialog.


God bless
 

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well of course. it only cancels the law. the law is for those who have not accepted Christ

no part of scripture cancels another part of scripture and NO ONE has said that. if that is what you think people are saying, then you need to back it up and read with more care. However, Jesus death on the cross changed things.

I don't care about the Gnostics and there are plenty of false prophets and teachers today. in fact, more than ever

you are free to Sabbath all you want. you need to stop judging others because they disagree

THAT, is the actual point of most of my posts to you

now say you never judged. go back and read where I replied to the posts where you most certainly did

saying to people that only those who love God for real will keep the Sabbath is extreme judging



childish. no one, repeat NO ONE has said any such thing to you. speak all day long but stop accusing and judging and telling people they do not love God because they have left the OT and are now following the NT in their worship

I can tell you your judgement of others is wrong and not your place and that is what I am doing. your indignation is ridiculous along with your false accusations
If all your postings were simply telling me off and judging me, they would be like straw in the wind. But mixed in is a misrepresentation of the Lord, and that is what I keep addressing. You always change it into a judging and fighting. So be it.
 

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The OT understanding of God is in respect to all he gave faith to believe him not seen. It has nothing to do with the flesh of mankind . It has to do with the power of God who works in the creature to both will and perform His good pleasure. God is not serve by human hands.

As soon as a person tries to divide the word of God from the word of God, OT from NT, or the flesh of mankind. Troubles can BEGIN
Never done that so I dont have to bother about that.
 

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according to history, they met in the morning, sun. morning.

and, we are just talking about jews. gentiles never commanded to keep the Sabbath.

early Christians met on sun. early in the morning, just as pliny the younger wrote to the emperor.
According to history, they met in the evening for an evening meal to ensure that everyone had a solid meal that day. I have read at least 10 books on the subject and they all say the same. IN the NTC any gentiles who joined with them did what was already being done by the Jews. Hence the deacons who were appointed to look after the needs of the Hellenistic widows.
 

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You need to see what is actually stated in Scripture regarding the first day of the week -- commonly called Sunday, but designated as "the Lord's Day" in Scripture. John said that he was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day (Rev 1:10). Ever since Christ arose on the first day of the week, it has had a special significance for Christians, hence "the Lord's Day".

Christians met on the first day of the week to worship and "break bread" (partake of the Lord's Supper). They were also to bring their offerings on the first day of the week, and would hear the preaching of the Word. Justin Martyr lived in the 2nd century and provided us with an insight into the worship meetings of Christians. So we can take his testimony as evidence of what was being done at least within the first two centuries.

SCRIPTURE READING AND EXHORTATION
‘On the day called Sunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these good things.

THE LORD'S SUPPER
Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons.

CHRISTIAN GIVING AND GOOD WORKS
And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succors [give assistance to] the orphans and widows, and those who, through sickness or any other cause are in want, and those who are in bonds, and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need.

THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE LORD'S DAY
But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Savior on the same day rose from the dead.’
You could not be more wrong. The NTC met each day and had an evening meal together. That is what breaking of bread means. if it doesn't then all the books that I have read that are written by people who live in the Middle East lied.

The birth of the so-called communion meal was the Passover Meal. Nowhere does it say to drink a sip of wine or eat a bit of bread every Sunday. The NTC which was a Jewish church met every day for a meal to ensure no one went hungry and a sip of wine and piece of bread would not suffice to achieve this. In addition, they observed the Jewish feast days so they would have celebrated the Passover ONCE A YEAR.

As for John being in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, you have to draw a very long bow to make it mean Sunday as the orginal greek "kuriakos" means anything belonging to the Lord and please note ANYTHING.

They did not bring offerings on the first day of the week. Please quote chapter and verse where it says that.

And they did not meet to "hear the preaching of the word." They met to pray, have fellowship, eat a meal together and hear what the apostles taught them which was round the meal table and was done in a dialogue manner.

As for Justin Martyr, he did not live in the NTC. He lived long after the days of the NTC and was already part of the error that had crept in.
 

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The OT "stuff" is the Lord speaking to mankind. If you are a Christian who loves the Lord, you do not push His word off with calling it "OT stiff", you listen to the Lord who you love.
I did not call it OT stiff. And thank you for implying that I do not listen to the Lord and you do. That is what I call arrogance. What you have claimed makes me think that you do not listen to the Lord. You seem to prefer to listen to denominational dictates.
 

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I did not call it OT stiff. And thank you for implying that I do not listen to the Lord and you do. That is what I call arrogance. What you have claimed makes me think that you do not listen to the Lord. You seem to prefer to listen to denominational dictates.
I wonder why people turn on anyone who speaks to them of scripture unless it is one of their favorite verses. People turned on Christ, I feel blessed.

It is always the same, too. They accuse the one speaking of scripture as judging them. They have to change the words of scripture the poster used into them personally being accused although there is never a word of judging them, then they turn it into awful judgments of the one speaking of scripture.
 

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Do you really think that God tells us one thing in Genesis (scripture) and a completely different thing in other scriptures? If that was so then scripture would not be truth at all.
I guess the verses that were provided: Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1, Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:9–20 and John 20:19

do not matter because you know better LOL.
 
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You could not be more wrong. The NTC met each day and had an evening meal together. That is what breaking of bread means. if it doesn't then all the books that I have read that are written by people who live in the Middle East lied.
The Bible defines what breaking of the bread means. The sharing of the gospel fast.

Books written by those in the Middle East are just as those written in the West, North and South.They are private interpretations or personal commentaries . Not God's interpretation as it is written. The witness of God. The witness of God is greater than that of men .

2 Peter 1:19-21 King James Version (KJV) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The gospel, the breaking of bread in respect to the ceremonial law was to be eaten on the first day prepared on the last day . Both days in that way represent our Sabbath rest. The new testament present the new era of Sabbaths not new days.
 
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Your pursuit and contempt for Blik is a sin. And we see you.

Remove the plank from your own eye before you judge anyone here by accusing them of extreme judging. When all you do post after post is precisely that. And without an ounce of compassion or love. God forgive you.

It is a falsehood, and a blatant cover of that fact, that no one has ever said that one part of scripture cancels another.

Again, this is a tactic employed to avoid responsibility for that very act. The actors think because they did not state word for word something against scripture, or a statement about a members belief being on a dead Christ, that they are then able to avoid the responsibility for implying what they dare not write word for word. And did so with the premeditated intention of having their words inferred as precisely what they would not write word for word. That they are then able to deny responsibility when their meaning is realized and addressed as publicly as they meant it to attach to this discussion.
well I finally really have your number

you have given little hints here and there...like when you attacked another member in the most vicious way some weeks back and I spoke up and you backed off

I have not even responded to you in this thread as you continued to dodge the moderator's questions and try to make it seem he was arguing with you when it was the other way around

I take it you are also a Sabbath keeper? between you Sabbath folk and certain Calvinists, I don't know which of you is most likely to boil over on any given day. I think you are the ones that are angry over the rules you make because God did not make them. please don't say you are only defending Blik because she is plenty able to take care of herself and judge others as she constantly does

and now the above post. take a walk in nature. it might to help calm down that raging anger you express from time to time
 
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Do you really think that God changed the Sabbath day of the week without telling us, just giving us these hints? God told us plainly straight to the point when God established the day. We have to disagree with a direct order on the base of man's faulty reasoning to change it.

I wonder why men think changing it is so important? Could it be that men are in rebellion to the Lord and this is a way of showing it?

talk about a broken record. you are stuck on one thing and then you say it is not that important. thread after thread you portray yourself as the poor misunderstood underdog, when you bite more like a pit bull at a garage station. and you know it

it seems you are actually worshiping a day and not the One who made it

in your religion, Jesus is not enough it would seem. one has make up things to do in order to be more righteous.

Paul met Jesus personally on road, or I guess it would be more accurate to say Jesus met him. So when Paul says a person is accursed if they keep up the law after supposedly accepting Christ, I will believe him. When Paul says to let no one judge you according to the law, just a shadow of the perfection that is in Christ, I will believe him

When someone comes along and creates constant friction and then cries when people disagree and gets downright nasty about it, I will refer them to scripture as I have already done along with many others and then we will see what they are made of

and again, you can worship any day, all day and every day. the problem with you, is you are saying that those who do not do as you do, do not really love God. that, is you overstepping yourself with self righteousness and not the righteousness of God
 
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6Therefore, just as you have received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to walk in Him, 7rooted and built up in Him, established in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.

8See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. 9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity dwells in bodily form. 10And you have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

11In Him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of your sinful nature, with the circumcision performed by Christb and not by human hands. 12And having been buried with Him in baptism, you were raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead.

13When you were dead in your trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our trespasses, 14having canceled the debt ascribed to us in the decrees that stood against us. He took it away, nailing it to the cross! 15And having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

16Therefore let no one judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a feast, a New Moon, or a Sabbath. 17These are a shadow of the things to come, but the body that casts it belongs to Christ.c 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you with speculation about what he has seen. Such a person is puffed up without basis by his unspiritual mind. 19He has lost connection to the head, from whom the whole body, supported and knit together by its joints and ligaments, grows as God causes it to grow.

20If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: 21“Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!”? 22These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such restrictions indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-prescribed worship, their false humility, and their harsh treatment of the body; but they are of no value against the indulgence of the flesh.
 
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here, again, and not to bore people, is Blik's idea of who loves God

Certainly not the true church of the Lord, or even of the earthly organized church that truly believes in all scripture. But I speak of the churches like six of the churches told of in Revelation that were not pleasing to God.
my response post 250
so in order to be part of the 'true' church, ie believe just like you, one should condemn all those who meet with other believers on Sunday

your religion seems very work based while you say it is not

and now you refer to Revelation. where in Revelation is salvation contingent on what day one attends church?

if not, then you are making things up. you are adding to scripture, which you might remember, the very book you mention in your post here, warns no one should do

and how did this come about?

Blik said:
The church today says that the Sabbath was cancelled. As proof they tell of Mary’s discovery of the risen Christ on Sunday. It doesn’t make sense that the time of a discovery should change what God tells us He created on the seventh day, or that a time of discovering something establishes when it happened, but that is the way they think.

The Lord gave us a new covenant, one we are told makes the old covenant obsolete. The church tells us that God knew he make a mistake so he cancelled the old covenant. I guess they think that God is like them and they know they make mistakes so they say so does the Lord. As if the Lord was just another human.

The church goes on and on about the mistakes the Lord has made. They say the sacrificial system didn’t work at all for atonement of sin even though scripture tells us it did. When the blood of cattle was used to feed the Lord, like pagans fed idols and not as a symbol of Christ, God hated it so the church tells us it was a mistake of the Lord to establish it.

The church tells us OT scripture can be in error. OT scripture tells us that God guides us to praise and celebrate His plan of salvation for us with feasts for all generations. The church tells us that is an error, that the feasts are to be treated the same way cutting the foreskin is treated.

Scripture tells us to celebrate Christ with Passover, the church says God cancelled that. They made up a new way to do it and named it using pagan gods to inspire them to make up a name for this replacement.

Demons are attracted to the church, undermining it is undermining the Lord. They have done a mighty work, they will still fail in the end.

Maggie B wanted to know what church Blik was referring to and the above nastiness was the response she received and then I responded to Bliks confirming only her way is the way that God accepts

but Blik never judges. oh no. never
 

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here, again, and not to bore people, is Blik's idea of who loves God


my response post 250
so in order to be part of the 'true' church, ie believe just like you, one should condemn all those who meet with other believers on Sunday

your religion seems very work based while you say it is not

and now you refer to Revelation. where in Revelation is salvation contingent on what day one attends church?

if not, then you are making things up. you are adding to scripture, which you might remember, the very book you mention in your post here, warns no one should do

and how did this come about?

Blik said:
The church today says that the Sabbath was cancelled. As proof they tell of Mary’s discovery of the risen Christ on Sunday. It doesn’t make sense that the time of a discovery should change what God tells us He created on the seventh day, or that a time of discovering something establishes when it happened, but that is the way they think.

The Lord gave us a new covenant, one we are told makes the old covenant obsolete. The church tells us that God knew he make a mistake so he cancelled the old covenant. I guess they think that God is like them and they know they make mistakes so they say so does the Lord. As if the Lord was just another human.

The church goes on and on about the mistakes the Lord has made. They say the sacrificial system didn’t work at all for atonement of sin even though scripture tells us it did. When the blood of cattle was used to feed the Lord, like pagans fed idols and not as a symbol of Christ, God hated it so the church tells us it was a mistake of the Lord to establish it.

The church tells us OT scripture can be in error. OT scripture tells us that God guides us to praise and celebrate His plan of salvation for us with feasts for all generations. The church tells us that is an error, that the feasts are to be treated the same way cutting the foreskin is treated.

Scripture tells us to celebrate Christ with Passover, the church says God cancelled that. They made up a new way to do it and named it using pagan gods to inspire them to make up a name for this replacement.

Demons are attracted to the church, undermining it is undermining the Lord. They have done a mighty work, they will still fail in the end.

Maggie B wanted to know what church Blik was referring to and the above nastiness was the response she received and then I responded to Bliks confirming only her way is the way that God accepts

but Blik never judges. oh no. never
blik follows a system called hebrew roots.

part of their belief system is that sun. worship is the mark of the beast, and the true Church of Christ keeps the Sabbath.

and, they also believe that those of us who meet on sun. are actually worshiping the roman sun god ( or nimrod) .

so, they think we are of satan, meeting to worship pagan gods.

that is why she is so hostile toward us.
 
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blik follows a system called hebrew roots.

part of their belief system is that sun. worship is the mark of the beast, and the true Church of Christ keeps the Sabbath.

and, they also believe that those of us who meet on sun. are actually worshiping the roman sun god ( or nimrod) .

so, they think we are of satan, meeting to worship pagan gods.

that is why she is so hostile toward us.

ohhhh....well that's a little different

huh

from her meandering explanations, she has made it seem she only follows certain 'special days', the Sabbath being one

Hebrew Roots is another thing and worse. interesting she does not post about all the rest of it. explains why she is so judgemental

and apparently not all that truthful.

thanks. appreciate you pointing that out. things make more sense about how she writes now
 

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ROMANS 14

1 Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions.
2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only.
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The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him.
4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.
6 He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
7 For not one of us lives for himself, and not one dies for himself;
8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s.
9 For to this end Christ died and lived again, that He might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Doctrinal truth is most important to our "pressing on to maturity" in the faith.
Let the Holy 'Spirit of truth deal with the immature and matters of conscience that do not offend the Lord.
Worship EVERY day and then you won't be so conflicted over which day.
 

gb9

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ohhhh....well that's a little different

huh

from her meandering explanations, she has made it seem she only follows certain 'special days', the Sabbath being one

Hebrew Roots is another thing and worse. interesting she does not post about all the rest of it. explains why she is so judgemental

and apparently not all that truthful.

thanks. appreciate you pointing that out. things make more sense about how she writes now
now, to be fair, she does claim to follow hebrew roots, but her beliefs mirror their beliefs , so there is that...