Is the Messiah really the Way, and the Truth, and the Life to us personally?
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No telling me what I think is not asking a question.
Genesis 13:14-15,And after Lot had separated from him, יהוה said to Aḇram, “Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward, for all the land which you see I shall give to you and your seed forever.
Genesis 13:14-15,And after Lot had separated from him, יהוה said to Aḇram, “Now lift up your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward, for all the land which you see I shall give to you and your seed forever.
but Paul says Jesus only came "in the likeness of flesh"
Romans 8:3, “For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness (#G3667) of sinful flesh (#G4561) and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,”
#G4561 - sarx: flesh
Original Word: σάρξ, σαρκός, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: sarx
Phonetic Spelling: (sarx)
Definition: flesh
Usage: flesh, body, human nature, materiality; kindred
#G3667 - homoióma: that which is made like (something), Original Word: ὁμοίωμα, ατος, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: homoióma, Phonetic Spelling: (hom-oy'-o-mah), Definition: that which is made like (something)
Usage: (originally: a thing made like something else), a likeness, or rather: form; a similitude.
HELPS Word-studies
“likeness” is word #G3667 homoíōma (a neuter noun derived from homos, "the same") – properly, the same as; likeness, similitude (resemblance). #G3667 /homoíōma ("likeness, particular similarity") is a comparison used to increase understanding. 3667 /homoíōma ("resemblance") does not require one element of a comparison to be derived from the other; indeed, it can be wholly separate from it. Rather, #G3667 (homoíōma) refers to a basic analogy (resemblance), not an exact copy.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
#G3667 - ὁμοίωμα, ὁμοιώματος, τό (ὁμοιόω), the Sept. for תְּמוּנָה, דְּמוּת, צֶלֶם, תַּבְנִית; properly, that which has been made after the likeness of something, hence,
a. a figure, image, likeness, representation: Psalm 105:20 (); 1 Macc. 3:48; of the image or shape of things seen in a vision, Revelation 9:7 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 604 (562)) (Ezekiel 1:5, 26, 28, etc. Plato, in Parmen., p. 132 d., calls finite things ὁμοιώματα, likenesses as it were, in which τά παραδειγματα, i. e. αἱ ἰδέαι or τά εἴδη, are expressed).
b. likeness i. e. resemblance (inasmuch as that appears in an image or figure), frequent such as amounts almost to equality or identity: τίνος, Romans 6:5; Romans 8:3 (on which see σάρξ, 3 at the end (cf. Weiss, Biblical Theol. etc. §§ 69 e. note, 78 c. note)); Philippians 2:7 (see μορφή); εἰκόνος, a likeness expressed by an image, i. e. an image, like, Romans 1:23; ἐπί τῷ ὁμοιώματι τῆς παραβάσεως Ἀδάμ, in the same manner in which Adam transgressed a command of God (see ἐπί, B. 2 a. εε.), Romans 5:14. Cf. the different views of this word set forth by Holsten, Zum Evangel. des Paulus u. Petrus, p. 437ff and (especially for examples) in the Jahrbüch. f. protest. Theol. for 1815, p. 451ff, and by Zeller, Zeitschr. f. wissensch. Theol. for 1870, p. 301ff. (Synonym: cf. εἰκών, at the end; Schmidt, chapter 191.)
Romans 8:3, “For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness (#G3667) of sinful flesh (#G4561) and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,”
#G4561 - sarx: flesh
Original Word: σάρξ, σαρκός, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: sarx
Phonetic Spelling: (sarx)
Definition: flesh
Usage: flesh, body, human nature, materiality; kindred
#G3667 - homoióma: that which is made like (something), Original Word: ὁμοίωμα, ατος, τό, Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter, Transliteration: homoióma, Phonetic Spelling: (hom-oy'-o-mah), Definition: that which is made like (something)
Usage: (originally: a thing made like something else), a likeness, or rather: form; a similitude.
HELPS Word-studies
“likeness” is word #G3667 homoíōma (a neuter noun derived from homos, "the same") – properly, the same as; likeness, similitude (resemblance). #G3667 /homoíōma ("likeness, particular similarity") is a comparison used to increase understanding. 3667 /homoíōma ("resemblance") does not require one element of a comparison to be derived from the other; indeed, it can be wholly separate from it. Rather, #G3667 (homoíōma) refers to a basic analogy (resemblance), not an exact copy.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
#G3667 - ὁμοίωμα, ὁμοιώματος, τό (ὁμοιόω), the Sept. for תְּמוּנָה, דְּמוּת, צֶלֶם, תַּבְנִית; properly, that which has been made after the likeness of something, hence,
a. a figure, image, likeness, representation: Psalm 105:20 (); 1 Macc. 3:48; of the image or shape of things seen in a vision, Revelation 9:7 (cf. Winer's Grammar, 604 (562)) (Ezekiel 1:5, 26, 28, etc. Plato, in Parmen., p. 132 d., calls finite things ὁμοιώματα, likenesses as it were, in which τά παραδειγματα, i. e. αἱ ἰδέαι or τά εἴδη, are expressed).
b. likeness i. e. resemblance (inasmuch as that appears in an image or figure), frequent such as amounts almost to equality or identity: τίνος, Romans 6:5; Romans 8:3 (on which see σάρξ, 3 at the end (cf. Weiss, Biblical Theol. etc. §§ 69 e. note, 78 c. note)); Philippians 2:7 (see μορφή); εἰκόνος, a likeness expressed by an image, i. e. an image, like, Romans 1:23; ἐπί τῷ ὁμοιώματι τῆς παραβάσεως Ἀδάμ, in the same manner in which Adam transgressed a command of God (see ἐπί, B. 2 a. εε.), Romans 5:14. Cf. the different views of this word set forth by Holsten, Zum Evangel. des Paulus u. Petrus, p. 437ff and (especially for examples) in the Jahrbüch. f. protest. Theol. for 1815, p. 451ff, and by Zeller, Zeitschr. f. wissensch. Theol. for 1870, p. 301ff. (Synonym: cf. εἰκών, at the end; Schmidt, chapter 191.)
You miss the point John is making
7¶For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. I'm sure you believe that Jesus was God come in the flesh . That he was in a physical body and was raised in a physical body ?
7¶For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. I'm sure you believe that Jesus was God come in the flesh . That he was in a physical body and was raised in a physical body ?
while all the word is important I was not focusing on that issue, I was focusing on
2 John 1:9-11, “Everyone who is transgressing and not staying in the teaching of Messiah does not possess the Mighty One. "
The thread is about Yahshua/Jesus and His teachings and how we should approach Him and how we should follow Him, etc.
2 John 1:9-11, “Everyone who is transgressing and not staying in the teaching of Messiah does not possess the Mighty One. "
The thread is about Yahshua/Jesus and His teachings and how we should approach Him and how we should follow Him, etc.
and they are suppose to teach what He taught them:
Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Matthew 28:19-20, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
