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The scriptures are what they are, they can be interpreted differently but the precept can't be different interpretations.
Jewish people didn't read the Bible 6,000 years ago since nobody knew how to read and write the written spoken word until around 1446 BC.
Jewish people didn't read the Bible 6,000 years ago since nobody knew how to read and write the written spoken word until around 1446 BC.
I thought I would post a couple of comments related to your theory of evolution:
Biodiversity is a quantity of genetic code akainformation. As far as we can tell this information is lost and will never be regained it is impossible.
At the level of an organism, It is now understood that what we thought was evolution was in fact switching on and off the existing information using various subroutines and subsystems.
New useful information is never added to the existing DNA code. There is a strong suspicion that it in fact can be lost a.k.a. speciation.
DNA is code this is an absolute fact. As I'm sure you well know and you've heard about the absolute necessity of a designer of ANY code. I don't believe this is merely theoretical I think it is well established fact.
Evolution if it exists should be happening all the time comprehensively all around us and easily observed. But this does not appear to be happening in fact quite the contrary.
The Coelacanth found the last century has not changed one iota in supposedly hundreds of millions of years. As I said evolution should be happening to all species all the time whether they like it or not. Not so the coelacanth. The fact is that there was vastly more biodiversity which went extinct and the coelacanth was what was leftover.
I am providing some links that I will post later which indicate that genealogies do not equal chronologies. In other words the Genesis genealogies are not meant to represent a particular span of time per se. The estimate is that the world COULD have been created easily 10 to 30 to 50,000 years ago. But I don't think it was much more than 20 to 30,000 years. 15,000 would do it.
Here's some more information now you got to see this. Is Andrew Hall correct?
I will provide some more links later that utterly destroy the "standard models".
Standard models are now obsolete. Not a lot of people know that they are obsolete but they are obsolete nonetheless.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Andrew+hall+the+arc+blasted+earth
Biodiversity is a quantity of genetic code akainformation. As far as we can tell this information is lost and will never be regained it is impossible.
At the level of an organism, It is now understood that what we thought was evolution was in fact switching on and off the existing information using various subroutines and subsystems.
New useful information is never added to the existing DNA code. There is a strong suspicion that it in fact can be lost a.k.a. speciation.
DNA is code this is an absolute fact. As I'm sure you well know and you've heard about the absolute necessity of a designer of ANY code. I don't believe this is merely theoretical I think it is well established fact.
Evolution if it exists should be happening all the time comprehensively all around us and easily observed. But this does not appear to be happening in fact quite the contrary.
The Coelacanth found the last century has not changed one iota in supposedly hundreds of millions of years. As I said evolution should be happening to all species all the time whether they like it or not. Not so the coelacanth. The fact is that there was vastly more biodiversity which went extinct and the coelacanth was what was leftover.
I am providing some links that I will post later which indicate that genealogies do not equal chronologies. In other words the Genesis genealogies are not meant to represent a particular span of time per se. The estimate is that the world COULD have been created easily 10 to 30 to 50,000 years ago. But I don't think it was much more than 20 to 30,000 years. 15,000 would do it.
Here's some more information now you got to see this. Is Andrew Hall correct?
I will provide some more links later that utterly destroy the "standard models".
Standard models are now obsolete. Not a lot of people know that they are obsolete but they are obsolete nonetheless.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Andrew+hall+the+arc+blasted+earth
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Written infers the use of the word so evidence of any written history would begin with those documents using the written word.
The lack of any evidence of the written word being found would supports that the fact that knowledge of the written word wasn't yet one the wisdoms of the Egyptians taught to Moses
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Again the cuneiform is another form of wordless ascription. While the scholars claim to have translated from some of the clay tablets attributed to the Sumerians that were claimed to have been discovered in the mid 1800's, I recall hearing tale from older members of the family that those 6,00o year old tablets sure made it harder to sell the 600,000 year old bones, but I digress.
While the tablets are said to predate the time period represented by the Biblical scriptures, and contain similar stories to those written in the Torah. One particular stories that was translated from amongst those clay tablets was one about a global flood which made the account of Noah's flood sound like it was just copied from that mythological account of a global flood.
But in the poetic nature of sweet justice, the incorrect interpretation of Torah and of a global flood is now known. Which doesn't explain how the translation of the tablets were so similar to the incorrect interpretations of the Torah, yet leaves little doubt about who copied who. Who would have known that when the correct time was determined that the event came to pass when the cloud was brought over the earth, that the waters of the earth couldn't not have become a flood long before the days of Noah.
So when the bow was seen in the cloud, the fact it had already occurred long before the time period in which the events of Noah occurred, it was then revealed that the account of Noah would revel that Pharaoh had actually sent the first settlers to inhabit the Americas.
According to findings, Pharaoh did in fact have a port located on the Red Sea during the time period of Noah. While the ark was described as having no steering or power for control, the boat would have been dependent upon the currents and trade winds to carry those who would be taking that journey on the Ark from Pharaoh's port in the northwest part of the Red Sea to its final destination somewhere in the America.
While one might question how Pharaoh would have know of the Americas much less that sending out such an expedition would reach its destination, however the pyramidic alter should be sufficient to say dam if he didn't. Of course all migration would have originated from somewhere in the Mesopotamia region and wasn't foreseen as necessary until the division of the Kings
It is hard not to think about where I would be sitting if not for that passage that a King arose in Egypt who knew not Joseph, yet it is for times like these when I sit and think that I realize that it is sometimes better to just sit.
The lack of any evidence of the written word being found would supports that the fact that knowledge of the written word wasn't yet one the wisdoms of the Egyptians taught to Moses
.
Again the cuneiform is another form of wordless ascription. While the scholars claim to have translated from some of the clay tablets attributed to the Sumerians that were claimed to have been discovered in the mid 1800's, I recall hearing tale from older members of the family that those 6,00o year old tablets sure made it harder to sell the 600,000 year old bones, but I digress.
While the tablets are said to predate the time period represented by the Biblical scriptures, and contain similar stories to those written in the Torah. One particular stories that was translated from amongst those clay tablets was one about a global flood which made the account of Noah's flood sound like it was just copied from that mythological account of a global flood.
But in the poetic nature of sweet justice, the incorrect interpretation of Torah and of a global flood is now known. Which doesn't explain how the translation of the tablets were so similar to the incorrect interpretations of the Torah, yet leaves little doubt about who copied who. Who would have known that when the correct time was determined that the event came to pass when the cloud was brought over the earth, that the waters of the earth couldn't not have become a flood long before the days of Noah.
So when the bow was seen in the cloud, the fact it had already occurred long before the time period in which the events of Noah occurred, it was then revealed that the account of Noah would revel that Pharaoh had actually sent the first settlers to inhabit the Americas.
According to findings, Pharaoh did in fact have a port located on the Red Sea during the time period of Noah. While the ark was described as having no steering or power for control, the boat would have been dependent upon the currents and trade winds to carry those who would be taking that journey on the Ark from Pharaoh's port in the northwest part of the Red Sea to its final destination somewhere in the America.
While one might question how Pharaoh would have know of the Americas much less that sending out such an expedition would reach its destination, however the pyramidic alter should be sufficient to say dam if he didn't. Of course all migration would have originated from somewhere in the Mesopotamia region and wasn't foreseen as necessary until the division of the Kings
It is hard not to think about where I would be sitting if not for that passage that a King arose in Egypt who knew not Joseph, yet it is for times like these when I sit and think that I realize that it is sometimes better to just sit.
I never said anything about it being produced by a bunch of Hebrew elitist. I was saying Moses did not invent language, or writing and that the stores he recorded by the spirit was also stories told from generation to generation and wrote down from generation to generation and was expressed as primitive pictures from generation to generation and that the stories even begin before the Hebrew language existed as evidence by very similar stories predating the Torah from other parts of Mesopotamia. So when a god inspired Moses to write it down he used symbolism moses was already familiar with.
There is no scientific evidence of a single giant flood covering the entire planet earth. The ancient Jews had a very different image in their head of the “earth” than what we have. The image we have comes from a satellite. The image they had came from fantasies and tales and from how far they could travel and see.
Sure there's all kinds of evidence of the flood all over the world no doubt about that.
You have to remember that the during the days of Peleg the continents were divided, and there was a Babel catastrophe to deal with. The book of Job indicates the world was still very unstable and large scale rapid changes were still ongoing. All of the largest mountain ranges were only built after the flood. And extremely rapidly, probably no more than 500 years.
I had to accrue information from many many many sources to get enough pieces of the puzzle.
From my understanding there is plenty enough reason to believe in a worldwide flood.
BTW, The Bible goes to extremes to make it utterly clear that the flood was absolutely worldwide.
The biosphere was drastically different before the flood. The flood itself was an absolutely stupendous catastrophe that's really beyond most people's conception.
There is every reason to believe that the megafauna that existed before the flood could not possibly exist in today's biosphere. Gigantic insects and gigantic dinosaurs would not be able to respirate or aspirate as the atmosphere of today is not sufficiently dense nor does it have enough oxygen.
It is almost certain that gravity was far less before the flood. Gigantic flying birds (Argentavis
magnificens) and reptiles flying in an atmosphere that was probably much more dense. Human beings living near to a millennium because of a salubrious biosphere. It is likely that the the sunshine as we know it today did not exist back then, it was diffuse through a canopy.
The large animals and birds today are almost as large as they can possibly attain. The heaviest flying birds are only about 35 pounds and cannot fly if they are heavier. The largest male elephants are about as large as any animal can be and still be able to ambulate mate and so on and so forth.
Yes the world was vastly different and not so long ago. And the fossil record proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
You have to remember that the during the days of Peleg the continents were divided, and there was a Babel catastrophe to deal with. The book of Job indicates the world was still very unstable and large scale rapid changes were still ongoing. All of the largest mountain ranges were only built after the flood. And extremely rapidly, probably no more than 500 years.
I had to accrue information from many many many sources to get enough pieces of the puzzle.
From my understanding there is plenty enough reason to believe in a worldwide flood.
BTW, The Bible goes to extremes to make it utterly clear that the flood was absolutely worldwide.
The biosphere was drastically different before the flood. The flood itself was an absolutely stupendous catastrophe that's really beyond most people's conception.
There is every reason to believe that the megafauna that existed before the flood could not possibly exist in today's biosphere. Gigantic insects and gigantic dinosaurs would not be able to respirate or aspirate as the atmosphere of today is not sufficiently dense nor does it have enough oxygen.
It is almost certain that gravity was far less before the flood. Gigantic flying birds (Argentavis
magnificens) and reptiles flying in an atmosphere that was probably much more dense. Human beings living near to a millennium because of a salubrious biosphere. It is likely that the the sunshine as we know it today did not exist back then, it was diffuse through a canopy.
The large animals and birds today are almost as large as they can possibly attain. The heaviest flying birds are only about 35 pounds and cannot fly if they are heavier. The largest male elephants are about as large as any animal can be and still be able to ambulate mate and so on and so forth.
Yes the world was vastly different and not so long ago. And the fossil record proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Yes I've heard many many theories on how the ancients had a different worldview, perspective on things and so on and so forth. Liberal theologians take this view such as Bruce Gore.
In my humble opinion the ancient libraries DID contain records of the world before the flood written down by the patriarchs. Unfortunately those libraries have burned and all the information has been lost. With the possible exception of hidden records archived in the Giza complex, Yet to be discovered. But that's a long shot.
In my humble opinion the ancient libraries DID contain records of the world before the flood written down by the patriarchs. Unfortunately those libraries have burned and all the information has been lost. With the possible exception of hidden records archived in the Giza complex, Yet to be discovered. But that's a long shot.
Chuck really does convey some very fascinating info about the Bible.
I must have listen to at least 1000 hours of his various series.
I don't think he's right about everything but is definitely right about a lot of things.
And he is always worth listening to.
His analysis of DNA as a obviously nonrandom code designed by an extraterrestrial super intelligence (The god of the Bible) is exemplary.
I must have listen to at least 1000 hours of his various series.
I don't think he's right about everything but is definitely right about a lot of things.
And he is always worth listening to.
His analysis of DNA as a obviously nonrandom code designed by an extraterrestrial super intelligence (The god of the Bible) is exemplary.
I’ll definitely have to check it out. One of my favorite things about digging into the Torah is studying out Hebrew and doing word studies. I’m working on going through the entire Old Testament, and deutercannonical books plus books such as Enoch to tease out the patterns. One study I’m going through right now on my own, though the Talmud mentions a bit on the first part is this.
Leading up the flood we see these stories. Angels, sons of God, sleep with the daughter of men. They bore these great , potentially, giant kids who are renown. Mankind begins to built a temple within a city as if to rival the Kingdom of God and so God comes down and scatters the people and confuses them with different tongues. A giant flood wipes out all wickedness. All those stores are tied in there.
Then we come to the gospels. A war breaks out in heaven when Satan tried to destroy Jesus, presumably through Herod , and Michael casts Satan down to the earth. Fallen angels become one with humans, but not through sex like in genesis but through possession. God sends the tongues of fire into those at Pentecost allowing them all to be able to communicate as if they speak one tongue and God begins to build his Kingdom on Earth , the body and draws them all together into one.
The parallels are hyperlinked very beautifully.
Leading up the flood we see these stories. Angels, sons of God, sleep with the daughter of men. They bore these great , potentially, giant kids who are renown. Mankind begins to built a temple within a city as if to rival the Kingdom of God and so God comes down and scatters the people and confuses them with different tongues. A giant flood wipes out all wickedness. All those stores are tied in there.
Then we come to the gospels. A war breaks out in heaven when Satan tried to destroy Jesus, presumably through Herod , and Michael casts Satan down to the earth. Fallen angels become one with humans, but not through sex like in genesis but through possession. God sends the tongues of fire into those at Pentecost allowing them all to be able to communicate as if they speak one tongue and God begins to build his Kingdom on Earth , the body and draws them all together into one.
The parallels are hyperlinked very beautifully.