Is the teaching of Jesus before His crucifixion only for Jews?

[Guojing]

the gospel is what Jesus said it is.....

have you ever read the four gospel accounts ? The gospel of Matthew , the gospel of mark , the gospel of like ? The gospel according to John ?

the kingdom of God is everything Jesus preached from this moment

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

everything from that time until he died and rose up is the gospel of the kingdom of God it’s really not a
Matter of my opinion and yours why don’t you just accept what a God said ?

Have faith in Jesus everything he said is for sure.... anyways this seems like you are just avoiding all the scripture I’m giving and going in circles so I appreciate the time you took and God bless

What do you mean by "everything from that time until he died and rose up is the gospel of the kingdom of God"?

What exactly are the contents? What is this kingdom?

I assume a kingdom needs a king. Are we promised a kingdom now, in our gospel, where Jesus will rule us as a king?

 

[Guojing]

Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but He had come to offer salvation to everybody and was to be a “light for the Gentiles” (Isaiah 42:6). So Gentiles can call on Jesus, because “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved” (Acts 2:21)

So, could gentiles call on Jesus to save them, before the cross?

 

[Guojing]

The lost sheep rejected Him and had Him put to death and His teaching that was initially to them is now for all mankind.

So you do agree that, this gospel for all mankind could only happen after the cross?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Exactly it always was foretold that way in prophecy through Israel’s rejection of the messiah the people of the earth would be offered salvation

what your missing is the gospel was promised to Abraham Before the law was given to Moses long before about 430 years note the promise

“And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

....Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.

And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

And the angel of the Lord called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.....

And the angel of the Lord called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:2, 4, 7-8, 11-12, 15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Abraham has two sons they represent the two covenants Ishmael who was born by Sarai’s will corresponds to Sinai and moses Mediation of the law this is what is only for Israel .

Isaac is recognized as his only son because Isaac is the seed of promise who was born only because God said he would be against all logic and hope because of their age God said Isaac will be born in a year and in a year Isaac was born. Gods word and faith again ....

the gospel is not born of the mosaic law it was before the mosaic law the promise of the gospel which would include all people of the earth not only Israel

 

[Pilgrimshope]

What do you mean by "everything from that time until he died and rose up is the gospel of the kingdom of God"?

What exactly are the contents? What is this kingdom?

I assume a kingdom needs a king. Are we promised a kingdom now, in our gospel, where Jesus will rule us as a king?

the kingdom of God is the promises Jesus made to those who believe him . This world and everything in it is doomed by Gods word as ive
Already clearly shown you . We live on this world but we who believe have the gospel in us

the gospel promises eternal life in a brand new world together with everyone who is saved in this world . A new heaven and new earth where there is no sin no death no disease where God dwells among us like his word says this is our promises kingdom It is hope and we walk by faith now because again we believe

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:

again like all things this was always the plan even from isaiahs time

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and then again in the revelation we see the fulfillment which is coming

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

These ideas aren’t foreign it’s just we have to study and pray about it . That’s the kingdom itnexists
Now in spirit and hope and will come to
Fruition indie time

 

[Guojing]

the kingdom of God is the promises Jesus made to those who believe him . This world and everything in it is doomed by Gods word as ive
Already clearly shown you . We live on this world but we who believe have the gospel in us

the gospel promises eternal life in a brand new world together with everyone who is saved in this world . A new heaven and new earth where there is no sin no death no disease where God dwells among us like his word says this is our promises kingdom It is hope and we walk by faith now because again we believe

“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:

again like all things this was always the plan even from isaiahs time

“For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and then again in the revelation we see the fulfillment which is coming

“And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

These ideas aren’t foreign it’s just we have to study and pray about it . That’s the kingdom itnexists
Now in spirit and hope and will come to
Fruition indie time

So, according to you, how does one access this kingdom. What does he need to believe in about Christ?

 

[Derek1955]

So, could gentiles call on Jesus to save them, before the cross?

Jesus, as God Incarnate, had the authority before His crucifixion, should He so choose, to save anyone, either Jew of Gentile.

 

[Derek1955]

What did Abraham had faith in, was it about the cross?

Was he required to have works to accompany his faith?

When Abraham was asked by God to sacrifice his son He had faith in God to believe what He requested him to do to the point whereb his son lay ready to be sacrificed. It is an absolute faith in God which saves. And to be saved by Christ means the same when we read John 1:1-2.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

So, according to you, how does one access this kingdom. What does he need to believe in about Christ?

According to Me ? No according to the gospel I don’t have time to quote jesusnentire
Ministry to you I’ve already wuoted
And quoted they roll off you like beads of water on a windshield

the only way to “ enter “ into Gods one and only kingdom is the way Jesus said you enter through him His way there is no other way but what the lord set before us .

he began preaching the gospel of his kingdom preached it about three and a half years then was crucified . Everything Jesus taught his disciples in the four gospel accounts that is the gospel of the kingdom of you want to receive the kingdom you simply go find out what the lord said And don’t reject it learn what he’s teaching it is wonderful and it’s not the mosaic law .

he is the king and he is already seated on the right hand of God until he returns with salvation until then anyone who believes the gospel the gospel Jesus authorized for the people of the world believe it and follow after what you learn and you are a citizen of the kingdom of God , a child of God but the name of his only son

insuspect
This will keep
Going in a circle so I’m gonna leave it there God bless you tho for sure he loves you

 

[Guojing]

When Abraham was asked by God to sacrifice his son He had faith in God to believe what He requested him to do to the point whereb his son lay ready to be sacrificed. It is an absolute faith in God which saves. And to be saved by Christ means the same when we read John 1:1-2.

So you are saying Abraham needed to show his faith in God by the work of sacrificing his son. Is that the correct interpretation of your view?

 

[Guojing]

According to Me ? No according to the gospel I don’t have time to quote jesusnentire
Ministry to you I’ve already wuoted
And quoted they roll off you like beads of water on a windshield

the only way to “ enter “ into Gods one and only kingdom is the way Jesus said you enter through him His way there is no other way but what the lord set before us .

he began preaching the gospel of his kingdom preached it about three and a half years then was crucified . Everything Jesus taught his disciples in the four gospel accounts that is the gospel of the kingdom of you want to receive the kingdom you simply go find out what the lord said And don’t reject it learn what he’s teaching it is wonderful and it’s not the mosaic law .

he is the king and he is already seated on the right hand of God until he returns with salvation until then anyone who believes the gospel the gospel Jesus authorized for the people of the world believe it and follow after what you learn and you are a citizen of the kingdom of God , a child of God but the name of his only son

insuspect
This will keep
Going in a circle so I’m gonna leave it there God bless you tho for sure he loves you

You have not actually answered my question.

If an unbeliever comes up to you and wants you to tell him what he must believe about Jesus, in order to enter this kingdom, what would you say to him?

Would you tell him to "you want to receive the kingdom you simply go find out what the lord said"?

What did the Lord said we must believe or do, in order to receive this kingdom?

 

[Derek1955]

According to Me ? No according to the gospel I don’t have time to quote jesusnentire
Ministry to you I’ve already wuoted
And quoted they roll off you like beads of water on a windshield

the only way to “ enter “ into Gods one and only kingdom is the way Jesus said you enter through him His way there is no other way but what the lord set before us .

he began preaching the gospel of his kingdom preached it about three and a half years then was crucified . Everything Jesus taught his disciples in the four gospel accounts that is the gospel of the kingdom of you want to receive the kingdom you simply go find out what the lord said And don’t reject it learn what he’s teaching it is wonderful and it’s not the mosaic law .

he is the king and he is already seated on the right hand of God until he returns with salvation until then anyone who believes the gospel the gospel Jesus authorized for the people of the world believe it and follow after what you learn and you are a citizen of the kingdom of God , a child of God but the name of his only son

insuspect
This will keep
Going in a circle so I’m gonna leave it there God bless you tho for sure he loves you

Read John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. and then to believe otherwise is denying Christ's divinity. Before Christ God whose power is infinite could save souls. If not then how did Abraham, Moses et al receive Salvation. Christ is the only way to God since His time on earth.
Here we are dealing with complexities far beyond true human understanding and so I agree, we will there let it rest.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Jesus, as God Incarnate, had the authority before His crucifixion, should He so choose, to save anyone, either Jew of Gentile.

a fact many samaritans were saved and they were mixed gentile and Hebrew , other Greeks came also to C

When Abraham was asked by God to sacrifice his son He had faith in God to believe what He requested him to do to the point whereb his son lay ready to be sacrificed. It is an absolute faith in God which saves. And to be saved by Christ means the same when we read John 1:1-2.

amen anyone willing to hear what he said and put that into practice in life because we understand it’s true is operating by faith .

it’s crazy when the argument becomes I have faith so therefore I don’t ever need to do what God said , I’m saved by faith instead ......faith knows Gods word is alw

So, according to you, how does one access this kingdom. What does he need to believe in about Christ?

all you need to do friend is accept the things Jesus preached like this Keep
In mind jesus is the one who we have to be saved by

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus simply teaches us to act right towards others That’s what eternity will be like if there was no death no sin no people wronging one another no evil .....Godnisnt going to bring thieves and murderers who won’t repent liars and people who spend their lives serving satans will which is simply sin.

he gives us a chance
Now to believe our lord
And savior and be saved he teaches to not be greedy and help others be kind, don’t harbor lust or hate inside ypur
Mind and heart focus on the things of eternity .

he teaches us true Godly love how to treat our brothers and sister in Christ who will be with us forever remember one day. It’s not about “ well you sinned so Now your out “

it’s about calling a sinners heart to repentance through believing the teachings jesus taught and said these things are
Life ......

 

[Pilgrimshope]

You have not actually answered my question.

If an unbeliever comes up to you and wants you to tell him what he must believe about Jesus, in order to enter this kingdom, what would you say to him?

Would you tell him to "you want to receive the kingdom you simply go find out what the lord said"?

What did the Lord said we must believe or do, in order to receive this kingdom?

Actually your not gonna accept an answer lol you have to believe the gospel to be saved

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Read John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. and then to believe otherwise is denying Christ's divinity. Before Christ God whose power is infinite could save souls. If not then how did Abraham, Moses et al receive Salvation. Christ is the only way to God since His time on earth.
Here we are dealing with complexities far beyond true human understanding and so I agree, we will there let it rest.

Amen yes he is the way truth and life the only way to the father . What strikes me is when one denies his words thier denying such amazing and perfect words filled with the most amazing promises in this world and they are certain!!

I mean just this one quote should light a fire

“For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father.

He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

just that one promise if only we believed what he said

 

[Guojing]

Actually your not gonna accept an answer lol you have to believe the gospel to be saved

Its not about whether I accept your answer. Even if I disagree, I am curious to know what you regard as the gospel that saves today.

It is fine if you don't wish to share though.

 

[Guojing]

Jesus simply teaches us to act right towards others That’s what eternity will be like if there was no death no sin no people wronging one another no evil .....Godnisnt going to bring thieves and murderers who won’t repent liars and people who spend their lives serving satans will which is simply sin.

he gives us a chance
Now to believe our lord
And savior and be saved he teaches to not be greedy and help others be kind, don’t harbor lust or hate inside ypur
Mind and heart focus on the things of eternity .

he teaches us true Godly love how to treat our brothers and sister in Christ who will be with us forever remember one day. It’s not about “ well you sinned so Now your out “

it’s about calling a sinners heart to repentance through believing the teachings jesus taught and said these things are
Life ......

To confirm, what you are saying is that, to enter this kingdom, I must "act right towards others"?

 

[Absolutely]

It’s called rightly dividing the word of truth.

Paul’s letters are for the Church age. Doctrine for the body of Christ has no time limits, except the rapture.

The items you say minimize the non Pauline books are the ones that would minimize the Pauline books.

Go shave your head and take a vow.

 

[John146]

The items you say minimize the non Pauline books are the ones that would minimize the Pauline books.

Go shave your head and take a vow.

Lol, but he did not command the church to do this. If he did, I would. He himself did this as a show to the Jews. If I thought by shaving my head might help win people to Christ, I certainly would. Wouldn't you?

 

[Absolutely]

The word of God is written for all, Jesus died on the cross for the sins of all mankind, not just a select few.

Yes
That's the thing. The p as ulines see the first advent as a failed mission,but paul came and righted it. Jesus ,it seems, to them,thought he came only for the Jew.
IOW Jesus was deluded. The cross was a back up plan.
So all that Jesus preached was kinda "tainted" to them.

We had one of those Pauline's in our bible class.
He actually said Paul's writing should be in red and JESUS'S in black.

Part of their mission is to minimize and malign the other books of the bible.

They are about 80% CV correct when operating in their Pauline understanding while refraining from maligning the other books. But they MUST minimize and malign those other books.
It is their message.
Their mission.
It is a Spirit they operate under. That is why they are basically unreachable.

Blinded.
The Holy Spirit has to unveil and break that bondage.

Words will not do it.
Neither will truth.

I can blow 2 or 3 holes in their mess and they will pretend nothing happened

It is such a great investment they made...they can not back off of it.
Blinded.