Is the teaching of Jesus before His crucifixion only for Jews?

[Kolistus]

You do agree however, that, during those 7 years, those unsaved Jews cannot rely on Romans 4:5 and worketh not, to be saved correct?

They have to follow the doctrine given in James 2, as well as in 1 Peter, 1 John and Jude, in order to receive their salvation at the end when Jesus return for them.

Dead faith has not saved anyone ever, today yesterday or tomorrow.

Everyone in the future will have to have faith, which will be manifest through their works.

No change in your life equals to no salvation has taken place. I know not one Christian who has remained exactly as he/she was prior to conversion.

 

[John146]

Jesus say

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Gospel, matt, mark, Luke and john is for all nations, not only for jews

I believe that was after the cross, and they still had no understanding of the gospel in it's entirety. They were still looking for an earthly kingdom. Why? Because it was prophesied and promised to the Jews. Right before the Lord's ascension they ask Him the following question:

Acts 1:66 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

 

[Guojing]

Dead faith has not saved anyone ever, today yesterday or tomorrow.

Everyone in the future will have to have faith, which will be manifest through their works.

No change in your life equals to no salvation has taken place. I know not one Christian who has remained exactly as he/she was prior to conversion.

How do you understand what romans 4:5 is saying then?

 

[Guojing]

Only what is relevant for me. But James teaching about faith without work is dead, is applicable for every Christian. It is like when your teacher say, you need oxygen for breathe. The teacher talk to you, not to me, but it is applicable to me and every body

I see.

Would you agree then that you also pick and choose which of Jesus commands are relevant to you, and which are not?

 

[Kolistus]

Now you are just being deliberately awkward.

Yeah he is resorting to just poor lunacy.

Read like that, none of the Bible applies to anyone alive today.

 

[Guojing]

Jesus say

Mark 16
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Gospel, matt, mark, Luke and john is for all nations, not only for jews

Do you Also have the signs that Jesus said you would have in mark 16:17-18?

Why not?

 

[Kolistus]

How do you understand what romans 4:5 is saying then?

Doesn't apply to me, thats not for us today. Are you a roman? If not, don't worry about it.

 

[Guojing]

Yeah he is resorting to just poor lunacy.

Read like that, none of the Bible applies to anyone alive today.

No I am respecting what Jesus was saying, without trying to change what he meant.

 

[Guojing]

Doesn't apply to me, thats not for us today. Are you a roman? If not, don't worry about it.

He is addressing the body of Christ in the book of Romans

Are you in the body of Christ today?

 

[Kolistus]

He is addressing the body of Christ in the book of Romans

Are you in the body of Christ today?

No he isn't. Remember, 1 John is not written to the body of Christ according to you. Even though these people believe in Jesus.

Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

To all that be in Rome. Are you in Rome? No? Doesn't concern you then. The whole Bible is a collection of stolen mail we should not have.
In order to read and apply any of the Bible to yourself, you have to do a DNA test to confirm you ancestry, or relocate to a different location.

Im just using your retarded logic here. Being consistent, try doing it sometime.

 

[Jackson123]

I believe that was after the cross, and they still had no understanding of the gospel in it's entirety. They were still looking for an earthly kingdom. Why? Because it was prophesied and promised to the Jews. Right before the Lord's ascension they ask Him the following question:

Acts 1:66 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

Ya, up to now some people don't know what gospel is, but gospel is not only for Jews, Jesus say preach the gospel for all nations, so gospel is for all nations

 

[Guojing]

No he isn't. Remember, 1 John is not written to the body of Christ according to you. Even though these people believe in Jesus.

Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

To all that be in Rome. Are you in Rome? No? Doesn't concern you then. The whole Bible is a collection of stolen mail we should not have.
In order to read and apply any of the Bible to yourself, you have to do a DNA test to confirm you ancestry, or relocate to a different location.

Im just using your retarded logic here. Being consistent, try doing it sometime.

You forgot about Romans 11?

13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

And you happen to be correct, 1 John is not written to the Body of Christ. John agreed, together with Peter and James in Galatians 2, to restrict their ministry to the circumcision.

Galatians 2:9
9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

You will not find the salvation doctrine relevant for the Body of Christ in 1 John. In fact, if you are willing to read 1 John literally, John often says that, if one do not love, nor obey God's commandments, one isn't saved.

I can understand why you would like that kind of teaching though.

 

[Adstar]

Some people believe not all New Testament is for Christian, and some believe the book of James only for the nation of Israel.

What do you take on this view?

The Word of God is valid from Genisis 1 to the end of Revelation 22..

 

[John146]

The Word of God is valid from Genisis 1 to the end of Revelation 22..

Valid for study? Yes. Valid to directly for us to do? Nope. Directions have changed throughout the course of human history....the doctrine of Progressive Revelation.

 

[Jackson123]

I see.

Would you agree then that you also pick and choose which of Jesus commands are relevant to you, and which are not?

Jesus pick for me not all the way around

 

[Guojing]

Jesus pick for me not all the way around

I am sure he "understands" that none of us can start from Jerusalem now, and thus we are now exempted from that command correct?

That is one way to resolve the dilemma

 

[John146]

Jesus pick for me not all the way around

Do you cast out devils, heal the sick and raise people from the dead?

Have you sold all that you have to follow Him?

 

[Jackson123]

I am sure he "understands" that none of us can start from Jerusalem now, and thus we are now exempted from that command correct?

That is one way to resolve the dilemma

Yes

 

[Scribe]

Do you cast out devils, heal the sick and raise people from the dead?

Have you sold all that you have to follow Him?

Yes!

 

[Jackson123]

Do you cast out devils, heal the sick and raise people from the dead?

Have you sold all that you have to follow Him?

I am not sold all that I have, so does Jews

You believe the gospel for Jews than why not all Jews sale all they have?

About pray for healing etc, it is geberal information, that it can happen if we have that spiritual gift

Paul explain more detail about that gift.

But yes if I sick, I pray and see the doctor.