revelation 20
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot
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revelation 20
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
If any man ends up in hell, he's going to a place never intended for him.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Haha.....Faith comes by the Holy Spirit testifying to my spirit that I am his child,born again...He has taken up residence in my spirit,how else would I know I’m a child of God?...hahaha.
All I see from you,is head knowledge,conjured up by your own understanding...
The Holy Spirit testified to “my spirit” do you understand that?..he spoke to my spirit,which recognised Him instantly.that I am his child......How about you,how were you saved?
Surely you know a man is spiritually dead,until they are saved born again by God?
Then they become alive in Christ a new birth....we are children of God and our new life in Him begins.....we are dead and nothing without Him!
Dusky,liked your comment,yet on another post that many are saved without ever reading a bible...He agreed with and said “ so what”..make your mind up Dusky......
That's not scriptural. The order of salvation is:
1. hearing the word of truth the gospel of your salvation
2. believing the gospel of your salvation
3. the Holy Spirit comes in and seals you at that point for the day of redemption
Scripture is clear, it is never appointed for man to die twice. If a man dies twice, it was not appointed by God.
In order to trust in Jesus for salvation, one must hear the gospel of their salvation. That's Bible. Your disagreement is with God's word not Duskey or anyone else.
Have you received Him? Have you believed upon His name? Pretty simple, really.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
In order for me to believe in Jesus,I had to have it testified to my heart,it’s called heart knowledge,which you don’t seem to understand,which by His Wonderful Grace He revealed that to little old me.
Your claim is false and does not align with Scripture. You claim you received the Holy Spirit without hearing and believing the gospel of your salvation. Please rethink your position and align with God's word.
Have I received Him.....of course I have recieved Him....He chose me ,I never had a choice...he resides in my spirit....surely you must know that?....he opens scripture up to us.
What are you talking about,of course I heard and received..hahaha.....I think it is you who needs to think their position in Christ.
You are coming from your own understanding and it shows in what you post...you don’t understand the scripture I presented to you.
You don’t know how God saves His Children.....I presented scripture you dismissed it,because you don’t understand it.
Funny, yet sad some believe it is saying that.
Calvinism is more sinister the more I look into it. The devastating effects of fatalism can be seen in places like India, where many believe in hinduism, which, along with islam and calvinism believe in predestination of all things.
A belief like that is guaranteed to breed complacency and in the case of Calvinism, fear that you may not be one of the elect, but one of the deceived.
To eliminate the free will of man is to eliminate genuine love for God and human responsibility. I agree with Justin Martyr on that one.
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