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You are wrong about the age of the Bible! From an interesting article:
The Christian Bible has two sections, the Old Testament and the New Testament. The Old Testament is the original Hebrew Bible, the sacred scriptures of the Jewish faith, written at different times between about 1200 and 165 BC. The New Testament books were written by Christians in the first century AD.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/texts/bible.shtml
The stories of the Bible first existed in oral form. From the 9th century B.C., a written language developed in Israel, and the oral texts began to be collected and written down.
People collected the words, stories, poems and sayings, but also official messages, for example from the surroundings of the royal courts. In places, the Old Testament itself gives clues as to which sources were used or where other material can be found. The best known is the reference to the "Chronicles of the Kings of Israel" or "Judah" (e.g. 1 Kings 11:41; 14,19; 14,29), in which one can read more about the deeds of the kings. Unfortunately, these documents are lost.
From the 5th century B.C., Jewish scholars then assembled the scriptures into larger units, starting with the Torah, the five books of Moses. The most recent books were not written until the 2nd century BC. Thus, from the beginnings of oral tradition to the last written records of the Old Testament, about a thousand years have passed.
The validity of individual books has long been controversial in Judaism. Presumably, the exact scope of the Hebrew scriptures was established towards the end of the 1st century A.D. In the centuries after the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 A.D., Jewish scholars fixed the shape of the text down to the smallest detail. The Hebrew text thus edited is called "Masoretic text" because in its present form it is based on the "Masora" tradition of Jewish scholars ("Masoretes"). It is still the basis for the translation of the Old Testament.
An important note: Many of the stories in the OT come from the Babylonian captivity, were only rewritten in Jewish terms. So the story of creation and the tower of Babel. Everything is well documented. If there is interest, I take the time and search for evidence in the corresponding books.
The Christian Bible has two sections, the Old Testament and the New Testament. The Old Testament is the original Hebrew Bible, the sacred scriptures of the Jewish faith, written at different times between about 1200 and 165 BC. The New Testament books were written by Christians in the first century AD.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/texts/bible.shtml
The stories of the Bible first existed in oral form. From the 9th century B.C., a written language developed in Israel, and the oral texts began to be collected and written down.
People collected the words, stories, poems and sayings, but also official messages, for example from the surroundings of the royal courts. In places, the Old Testament itself gives clues as to which sources were used or where other material can be found. The best known is the reference to the "Chronicles of the Kings of Israel" or "Judah" (e.g. 1 Kings 11:41; 14,19; 14,29), in which one can read more about the deeds of the kings. Unfortunately, these documents are lost.
From the 5th century B.C., Jewish scholars then assembled the scriptures into larger units, starting with the Torah, the five books of Moses. The most recent books were not written until the 2nd century BC. Thus, from the beginnings of oral tradition to the last written records of the Old Testament, about a thousand years have passed.
The validity of individual books has long been controversial in Judaism. Presumably, the exact scope of the Hebrew scriptures was established towards the end of the 1st century A.D. In the centuries after the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 A.D., Jewish scholars fixed the shape of the text down to the smallest detail. The Hebrew text thus edited is called "Masoretic text" because in its present form it is based on the "Masora" tradition of Jewish scholars ("Masoretes"). It is still the basis for the translation of the Old Testament.
An important note: Many of the stories in the OT come from the Babylonian captivity, were only rewritten in Jewish terms. So the story of creation and the tower of Babel. Everything is well documented. If there is interest, I take the time and search for evidence in the corresponding books.
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Because the Bible says children are blessings and God knits them in the womb, God would not be pleased with abortions.
My issue is people lay the blame almost entirely on women for the abortion, as though she is solely responsible and is the evil one. In many cases the boyfriend or husband is in favor of the abortion, maybe even the girl's parents. There are people who have multiple abortions, but in many cases they are more irresponsible and dumb than evil, such as people who treat abortion as a form of birth control.
My issue is people lay the blame almost entirely on women for the abortion, as though she is solely responsible and is the evil one. In many cases the boyfriend or husband is in favor of the abortion, maybe even the girl's parents. There are people who have multiple abortions, but in many cases they are more irresponsible and dumb than evil, such as people who treat abortion as a form of birth control.
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God hates abortion? Where does this say in the Bible (book, chapter, and verse)?
I think it is not God, but fundamentalist Christians who hate abortion, because then men are forbidden to continue to control and patronise women.
You know what? It pissed me off to be here!
Please admins, delete my account immediately!
I think it is not God, but fundamentalist Christians who hate abortion, because then men are forbidden to continue to control and patronise women.
You know what? It pissed me off to be here!
Please admins, delete my account immediately!
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How can you be so stupid! Does it actually hurt to be so stupid? Take a look in the lexicon to see how this scripture should really be translated. Abortion does not occur in the original text!
Here is the translation of a university:
16: Six things are hated to the Lord, and seven are an abomination to him:
17: proud eyes, a false tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Source: https://www.uibk.ac.at/theol/leseraum/bibel/spr6.html
It is the interpretation that this means abortion. The Bible does not say it!
Since you've all been so stupid here not to accept the facts? If so, I have to leave here immediately, otherwise I will go crazy here.
Here is the translation of a university:
16: Six things are hated to the Lord, and seven are an abomination to him:
17: proud eyes, a false tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
Source: https://www.uibk.ac.at/theol/leseraum/bibel/spr6.html
It is the interpretation that this means abortion. The Bible does not say it!
Since you've all been so stupid here not to accept the facts? If so, I have to leave here immediately, otherwise I will go crazy here.
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It is only the decision of the woman, perhaps still that of a doctor, but by no means that of the husband, the parents or a clergyman. It is the woman who carries a fetus for nine months (usually) who educates it, and loves or hates it. And only she alone can disappear, whether she wants a child or not!
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Nope i am not Stupid i Believe God.. Those who take part in Abortion,, Those who perform abortions and those who support abortion are murderers and have the blood of innocents on their hands.. And if they refuse to hear the word of God and acknowledge their sin and trust in the atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ they shall be cast into the eternal lake of fire for their sin..
You can leave any time you like..
You can leave any time you like..
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It is not only for this reason that most fathers (there are always some notable exceptions) take care of their children. Most men want sex, and are frustrated when for his wife the children are more important. Some of these despicable species then force their wife to have sex, calling it the "fulfillment of marital duties" when they rape her.
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I think the father does have rights to the baby even though he is not carrying, and especially so if the woman even if she believes her body her decision later expects him to pay child support.
However this is not a concern in most cases since the man doesnt want to pay child support for 18 years and have his life drastically changed.
However this is not a concern in most cases since the man doesnt want to pay child support for 18 years and have his life drastically changed.
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You call me a murderer because I stand up for every woman's right to abortion? This is not only stupid, that is also wrong!
Fortunately, you are right about me being a murderer. Not because I had an abortion, but because I killed my so-called "father" in Idaho when I was fourteen, who had beaten and raped us all. I was sentenced to 20 years. In prison, I met many girls and women convicted of abortion. The judges did not ask why. The women were guilty. But were they really?
Is a woman, a girl guilty; that was raped by a family member and rejected by the family for "this shame", really guilty if she abates?
Is a woman guilty of having an abortion because she is forced to abort by her boyfriend because he does not want to pay for aliments?
Many of these women in prison who had had an abortion told such stories. And many of them, including me, united one thing: hatred of men.
Fortunately, you are right about me being a murderer. Not because I had an abortion, but because I killed my so-called "father" in Idaho when I was fourteen, who had beaten and raped us all. I was sentenced to 20 years. In prison, I met many girls and women convicted of abortion. The judges did not ask why. The women were guilty. But were they really?
Is a woman, a girl guilty; that was raped by a family member and rejected by the family for "this shame", really guilty if she abates?
Is a woman guilty of having an abortion because she is forced to abort by her boyfriend because he does not want to pay for aliments?
Many of these women in prison who had had an abortion told such stories. And many of them, including me, united one thing: hatred of men.
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