What does it "REALLY" mean that Jesus Christ is the Son of God?
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Whatever. Maybe after you learn proper English grammar it will be worthwhile discussing the Bible with you.
I don't believe you know what "redundant" means.
The Trinity is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
You keep repeating that, but you are rejecting the divinity of Jesus Christ. That makes you a heretic.
I don't believe you know what "redundant" means.
The Trinity is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
You keep repeating that, but you are rejecting the divinity of Jesus Christ. That makes you a heretic.
@bluto and @Mattathias -
I enjoyed reading your discussion.
Here’s a couple more points.....
No other “human” was born from a virgin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was born WITHOUT sin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was able to fulfill all of the Law of Moses in his flesh - ONLY Jesus.
Definitely a bit higher than us yet, well acquainted with all our weaknesses and infirmities.
Yes, Jesus is God in human flesh saving His creation and wanting us to know Him, love Him and be loved by Him.
I enjoyed reading your discussion.
Here’s a couple more points.....
No other “human” was born from a virgin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was born WITHOUT sin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was able to fulfill all of the Law of Moses in his flesh - ONLY Jesus.
Definitely a bit higher than us yet, well acquainted with all our weaknesses and infirmities.
Yes, Jesus is God in human flesh saving His creation and wanting us to know Him, love Him and be loved by Him.
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I was raised Baptist. (As I’m sure you know, Dr. Martin was Baptist.) Billy Graham was our champion, but we held Dr. Martin in high esteem. We read his books, listened to him on the radio and watched him on television, just as we did with Dr. Graham. (Books written by both men are still in my personal library.)
I never met or spoke with Dr. Martin. (Nor did I ever meet or speak with Dr. Graham.) He died before I began attending conferences and seminars as part of my work as a theology professor.
Dr. Martin knew what was decided at the Council of Chalcedon and, being an orthodox trinitarian, defended it. (Had he not, his enemies would have delighted in destroying him for it.)
I never met or spoke with Dr. Martin. (Nor did I ever meet or speak with Dr. Graham.) He died before I began attending conferences and seminars as part of my work as a theology professor.
Dr. Martin knew what was decided at the Council of Chalcedon and, being an orthodox trinitarian, defended it. (Had he not, his enemies would have delighted in destroying him for it.)
Yes Jesus the Son of man is not a daysman. When accused of being the one and only Good Master, the unseen Lord . He refused to stand in the place as abomination of desolation (a daysman) but rather gave Glory to our unseen God . and did his will continually not the will of his own corrupted flesh . Saying one is the Good Master, God.
@bluto and @Mattathias -
I enjoyed reading your discussion.
Here’s a couple more points.....
No other “human” was born from a virgin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was born WITHOUT sin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was able to fulfill all of the Law of Moses in his flesh - ONLY Jesus.
Definitely a bit higher than us yet, well acquainted with all our weaknesses and infirmities.
Yes, Jesus is God in human flesh saving His creation and wanting us to know Him, love Him and be loved by Him.
I enjoyed reading your discussion.
Here’s a couple more points.....
No other “human” was born from a virgin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was born WITHOUT sin - ONLY Jesus.
No other “human” was able to fulfill all of the Law of Moses in his flesh - ONLY Jesus.
Definitely a bit higher than us yet, well acquainted with all our weaknesses and infirmities.
Yes, Jesus is God in human flesh saving His creation and wanting us to know Him, love Him and be loved by Him.
And all this is from God, who has reconciled us to himself through Christ and given us the ministry of reconciliation, namely, God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting their trespasses against them and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. So we are ambassadors for Christ, as if God were appealing through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God (2 Cor. 5:18-20).
”The Baptist Faith and Message is a clear, strong voice for the essential doctrines for which the ancient church contended at Nicaea and Chalcedon...”
(Barry McCarty, “Becoming Part of the Southern Baptist Voice in This Generation”)
http://www.sbclife.net/article/2392/becoming-part-of-the-southern-baptist-voice-in-this-generation
Dr. Martin was, and Dr. Craig is, Baptist.
I was raised a Baptist. I am now an Anabaptist.
(Barry McCarty, “Becoming Part of the Southern Baptist Voice in This Generation”)
http://www.sbclife.net/article/2392/becoming-part-of-the-southern-baptist-voice-in-this-generation
Dr. Martin was, and Dr. Craig is, Baptist.
I was raised a Baptist. I am now an Anabaptist.
The one time propmised demonstration of the work that was finished within the 6 days when God did work is over. Some did know him after the temporal flesh .Today that is impossible. There will not be another demonstration of the work of the unseen Spirit working in the Son of man.
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
God cannot become a human .His Spirit the unseen power works in a human, powerless, faithless .
God is not a man .
Three things make up God. God is Spirit. God is Light. God is Light. Those are not attributes but the very essence of God .The unseen glory .
2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
God cannot become a human .His Spirit the unseen power works in a human, powerless, faithless .
God is not a man .
Three things make up God. God is Spirit. God is Light. God is Light. Those are not attributes but the very essence of God .The unseen glory .
Like the Spirit of Christ who dwells in these earthen bodies of death? Call no man on earth teacher one is our father not seen
Prove that the three do not make up the very essence of God. Again God is Light and not just that he able to create a temporal light that will disappear on the last day . We are still under the Sun and moon the temporal corruption time keepers . . His glory will be all the light needed in the new. Just as it was during the first three days. Until he decided to find pride coming for the apposing spirit .The father of lies. The glory departed. The created light began the count down (under the sun and moon)
In the new order it will be under the feet of His bride the church.
Revelation 12 King James Version (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
The glory restored. . .
Revelation 21:22-25 King James Version (KJV) 2 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
Night represents evil. light represent the Good presence of God not seen .
Call no man on earth teacher one is our father not seenProve that the three do not make up the very essence of God. Again God is Light and not just that he able to create a temporal light that will disappear on the last day . We are still under the Sun and moon the temporal corruption time keepers . . His glory will be all the light needed in the new. Just as it was during the first three days. Until he decided to find pride coming for the apposing spirit .The father of lies. The glory departed. The created light began the count down (under the sun and moon)
In the new order it will be under the feet of His bride the church.
Revelation 12 King James Version (KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
The glory restored. . .
Revelation 21:22-25 King James Version (KJV) 2 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
Night represents evil. light represent the Good presence of God not seen .
Just to be clear Jesus Christ is a human person. Please explain to us all here in what respect is He not a human person? Even the enemies of Jesus said, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, BEING A MAN, make Yourself out God." (John 10:33).
And another thing, I ask you in one of my post why did Jesus bring up Psalm 82:6 at John 10:30-38? What do you think the point He was making to the Jews?
Btw, I have every word Dr.Martin said. In written form, every tape and now cd his teachings and also numerous VHS tapes of his debates. He did debate Father Paqua regardinc Catholic teaching. I also attended his funeral.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
And another thing, I ask you in one of my post why did Jesus bring up Psalm 82:6 at John 10:30-38? What do you think the point He was making to the Jews?
Btw, I have every word Dr.Martin said. In written form, every tape and now cd his teachings and also numerous VHS tapes of his debates. He did debate Father Paqua regardinc Catholic teaching. I also attended his funeral.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
You said, "God is not a man." Angels are spiritual beings but yet God can turn them into the form of a man. Jesus Christ as the angel of the Lord in the OT was in the form of a man. Think about it, "Is anything too hard for God?" Btw, the "Word/Logos as John 1:1 is "NOT" the spoken word as you believe.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Jesus the apostle prophet spoke the words of the father our lord who yields power to forgive and rebuke the spirit of lies. (legion) .Jesus as the Son of man had no power. Jesus as the Son of man, he is considered a angel as all true apostles. (sent ones)
The man of sin, Satan is the antichrist who works in many or a legion of those led by the spirit of the antichrist (one) . The false apostle false prophet .
It would appear he produced false pride in Peters heart moving Peter to rebuke the Son of man. Peter in false pride trying to make the gospel key that the gates of hell could not prevail against to no effect . . giving it to Peter who "blasphemed" Christ working in the Son of man, Jesus.
The Father put his words on His apostles lips (Jesus) and God rebuked the father of lies. And the same Spirit not seen forgave Peter of his blasphemy.
The Lord saying to the father of lies "the legion" .get behind me . . God, not seen. Walk by faith rather than getting behind supporting Peter a man of sin living in a corrupted body of death , and support me as you were created to do .
An eternity of difference between corrupted dying mankind the temporal seen and our father not seen. They must be mixed called the mixing of faith(the gospel) the temporal seen points to the eternal not seen . Hebrews 4:1-2 our daily sabbath .
The letter of the law must be mixed with the law of faith .It as one new perfect law. It produces the just and the justifier apart from each other no grace. .One God working as two .The father taking the greater position with power to strengthen the powerless creature the Son of man Jesus. . Yoked with Christ our daily burden is made lighter.
Mathew 16: 21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
The man of sin, Satan is the antichrist who works in many or a legion of those led by the spirit of the antichrist (one) . The false apostle false prophet .
It would appear he produced false pride in Peters heart moving Peter to rebuke the Son of man. Peter in false pride trying to make the gospel key that the gates of hell could not prevail against to no effect . . giving it to Peter who "blasphemed" Christ working in the Son of man, Jesus.
The Father put his words on His apostles lips (Jesus) and God rebuked the father of lies. And the same Spirit not seen forgave Peter of his blasphemy.
The Lord saying to the father of lies "the legion" .get behind me . . God, not seen. Walk by faith rather than getting behind supporting Peter a man of sin living in a corrupted body of death , and support me as you were created to do .
An eternity of difference between corrupted dying mankind the temporal seen and our father not seen. They must be mixed called the mixing of faith(the gospel) the temporal seen points to the eternal not seen . Hebrews 4:1-2 our daily sabbath .
The letter of the law must be mixed with the law of faith .It as one new perfect law. It produces the just and the justifier apart from each other no grace. .One God working as two .The father taking the greater position with power to strengthen the powerless creature the Son of man Jesus. . Yoked with Christ our daily burden is made lighter.
Mathew 16: 21-23 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.