And do not forget....The same god who made little miss Smith for hell decided that one thief on the cross out of two got lucky even though both were murderous thieves being crucified by the ROMANS......
Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot
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And do not forget....The same god who made little miss Smith for hell decided that one thief on the cross out of two got lucky even though both were murderous thieves being crucified by the ROMANS......
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
Yes, the atonement is applied to those who believe, but is available to the whole world.
Wonder why is it so difficult to admit that all of us believe in some form of limited atonement.
We just don’t like that phrase because of its association with tulip is it?
Wonder why is it so difficult to admit that all of us believe in some form of limited atonement.
We just don’t like that phrase because of its association with tulip is it?
According to TULIP, the atonement is not only limited, but not available to the whole world, just the frozen chosen.
According to TULIP, the atonement is not only limited, but not available to the whole world, just the frozen chosen.
True that might be.
The first step in having a cordial conversation is to acknowledge the similarity in our views, before we debate the differences
Wow....Unbelievable....I guess, this how it works. They twist it around to try to get a little bit of wiggle room just trying to get others to agree with some small portion.
Guess, that's why they got that TULIP 5 point system. To try to twist the word of God around just like the serpent did, in hopes to get someone to believe one or two points...then maybe if they can sucker you into one thing, then they will move on to the next point until you are completely immersed into the cult.
Here is my thoughts on Tulip....
T - Totally
U - Unlike
L- the Lord
I - isn't it
P- People
He died for all and paid for the sins of the whole world. Atonement is available to all that will accept. It is offered to all. All means all...so let's not try to be deceptive just to hold up some heretics perverse theology.
Guess, that's why they got that TULIP 5 point system. To try to twist the word of God around just like the serpent did, in hopes to get someone to believe one or two points...then maybe if they can sucker you into one thing, then they will move on to the next point until you are completely immersed into the cult.
Here is my thoughts on Tulip....
T - Totally
U - Unlike
L- the Lord
I - isn't it
P- People
He died for all and paid for the sins of the whole world. Atonement is available to all that will accept. It is offered to all. All means all...so let's not try to be deceptive just to hold up some heretics perverse theology.
It’s easy to see you’re trying to lay a trap.
It’s easy to see you’re trying to lay a trap.
No one is laying traps here, but then again, you won't believe it
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EleventhHour
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Amen!
What is also unbelievable is how when all the errors are pointed out over and over again Calvinites still defend the system.
Are they really concerned with Truth?
Jesus stated ...The Truth will set you free, Calvinites are in bondage to a system.
creatures with brains should question things. but it does seems wise to question both things, not just one. ☺
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EleventhHour
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Yes in your view ...... mankind is divided into two classes of people......... the worthy to be selected ... and the unworthy.
The Calvinists states ..........I am so humble I had no part in my salvation.. no receiving, no believing, yet I was worthy and important enough to be chosen over someone else??
Scripture states no one is worthy,
I would agree with you, but you must first show me how to sweep the 120 passages of scripture which speak of election under the carpet
That's right, you shouldn't question an accurate presentation of God's Word
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