Not By Works
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You need to know that Management has warned us that abusiveness will not be Tolerated any more. In fact at least 3 people have been banned for that recently.
However, in all fairness, some of what you call abusiveness, is just being obedient to these kind of verses:
Jude 1:3 (NASB)
3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that
you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints.
That to me means, be Respectful, but do not compromise your beliefs, and tolerance does not include, you have accept their false teachings.
In other words, Agree to Disagree, and walk away from the conversation, and accept that it is HOLY SPIRIT that will or will not Correct their false theology.
It is so TEMPING to try to Pound it INTO HIS HEAD, when that contradicts this verse:
Philippians 4:5 (NKJV)
5 Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand.
Instead of THIS:
YES IT DOES!
I am talking to wall. Because You cannot understand since you are Kidding yourself, if you think you have been Born Again, in my opinion. You cannot understand Spiritual Truths, until you are REALLY Born Again, which is so frustrating.
There is NO WORKS involved in LOVING the LORD with HIS LOVE HE PUT INTO YOUR HEART, ROM. 5:5. IT JUST COMES OUT OF YOU. HE is not talking about normal human love, it is the LOVE HE had the Holy Spirit Pour INTO OUR HEARTS that is a reference to the Human Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:3 (NASB)
3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, "Jesus is accursed";
and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit. {It has to have happened inside your Human Spirit first, where you have surrendered out of AGAPE LOVE for HIM, giving HIM complete Control of your life; then and only then is it a confession, when you say to someone else, that JESUS is My Lord. Prior to that it is only Profession, and Not a Confession. Professions are typical WORKS from the Flesh that cannot SAVE, and do not involve the Holy Spirit.}
It is ridiculous and about as biblically inept as one can be to say Paul and John taught different gospels.......The same John that wrote John chapter wrote 1st thru 3rd John and Revelation...there is but ONE GOSPEL of salvation and to say what he said is theologically ignorant......it also sows confusion, makes God out to be inept, corrupts scripture and on and on and on.
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THAT IS RIGHT!
To love someone From GOD's LOVE that HE poured into our HEARTS IS NOT WORKS. It just flows out of us.
To Love Someone with human LOVE is WORKS.
Do you see You have never been BORN AGAIN, therefore You think Spiritual Truths are just FOOLISHNESS.
In other words if it comes from GOD's FREE GIFT, You do not get to pat yourself on the back.
You should try it sometime.
Romans 5:5-10 (NASB)
5 and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.
6 For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
1 Corinthians 2:13-14 (NIV)
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
HERE IS THE SCARY Part:
John 3:3 (NIV)
3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
When God showed his love to us in Romans 5:8, while we were his enemies, he had to sacrifice his only son.
If you can still think that is not a "work", that is amazing.
You mean you will sacrifice you own son for your enemies because God's love just flows out of you? You have really reached the ultimate level if that is true.
If you can still think that is not a "work", that is amazing.
You mean you will sacrifice you own son for your enemies because God's love just flows out of you? You have really reached the ultimate level if that is true.
HE PAID THE PRICE IN FULL, and our DEBT is TOTALLY Paid OFF. HE PAID THE PRICE FOR US, HIS BRIDE. It is called the Bride Price.
Besides what has that do with anything. SALVATION is a TOTALLY FREE GIFT.
1 Corinthians 7:23-24 (NASB)
23 You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.
24 Brethren, each one is to remain with God in that condition in which he was called.
John 4:10 (NCV)
10 Jesus said, “If you only knew the free gift of God and who it is that is asking you for water, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.“
Romans 5:15-16 (ASV)
15 But not as the trespass, so also is the free gift. For if by the trespass of the one the many died, much more did the grace of God, and the gift by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound unto the many.
16 And not as through one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment came of one unto condemnation, but the free gift came of many trespasses unto justification.
Romans 6:23 (ASV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Ephesians 1:5-6 (NJB)
5 marking us out for himself beforehand, to be adopted sons, through Jesus Christ. Such was his purpose and good pleasure,
6 to the praise of the glory of his grace, his free gift to us in the Beloved,
Revelation 22:17 (NIV)
17 The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" Whoever is thirsty, let him come; and whoever wishes, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
Romans 4:4-5 (HCSB)
4 Now to the one who works, pay is not considered as a gift, but as something owed.
5 But to the one who does not work, but believes on Him who declares the ungodly to be righteous, his faith is credited for righteousness.
SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT, and it is Price He PAID TO REDEEM HIS BRIDE.
Here is a thread that I started Years ago.
THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/
You may be interested in it.
Here is a thread that I started Years ago.
THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...bride-to-go-to-the-wedding-of-the-lamb.95283/
You may be interested in it.