Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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honestly, this Calvinism seems to give no honor to the Bible and no fear (honor and respect for the fact He is God) of God

what kind of person keeps giving thumbs down on scripture but thumbs up for tulip falsehoods? I do not even see any scripture coming from them but just mocking and encouraging another to do the same
We must always be cautious of bad fruit and wolves in sheep’s clothing. You wear the Armour of God well, dear sister, as does @EleventhHour.
 
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Once again choosing God and choosing his gift are two different things
I can chose a persons gift and never chose them. I chose what they offered without even knowing who they are
Well I have never regarded Ephesians 2:8 like this before? :unsure:
 
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Why on earth would anyone rise up about the fruit of the Holy Spirit....that is produced in a true follower of Christ.
That’s EXACTLY what you do. You’re offered Scripture by true followers of Christ but refute it ONLY because you dislike the person providing you the Scripture. smh.
 
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I thank God He knocks on the door, and for all who open the door, He will come in and dine with them. Revelation 3:20

But I digress, calvinism dictates we are forced to open the door or forced to not open it.
Hmmm, no rebuttals by calvinists. 🤔
 
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thing is, no one can actually truly refute the word of God because God WILL perform His word with or without their consent

still He is not willing that any should die (perish)

this is like choosing to go down a dead end path with a cliff at the end and continuing to walk right off into the air because you will have your way no matter the reality

sometimes best just to clean your sandals and not try to bear the burden that Jesus died for. God knows.
 

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I thank God He knocks on the door, and for all who open the door, He will come in and dine with them. Revelation 3:20

But I digress, calvinism dictates we are forced to open the door or forced to not open it.

Isaiah 45:22 + Revelation 3:20

Revelation 22:16-17
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Free will’r: Jesus died for everyone!
Grace’r: So you believe in an unlimited atonement?
Free will’r: What's atonement mean?
Keep building and burning those straw men like a good Calvinist. Limited atonement doesn't simply teach that not all will receive the benefits of atonement, but that Jesus only died for the elect. One of those can be supported Biblically, the other is necessitated by the preceding tenets of the TULIP.
 
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This post about says it all.

You scream how you are mistreated

Yet because someone is nice to you and agrees with you it’s perfectly fine for him to Mistreat others

This in fact makes you no better than your accusers

Good day!
More sowing of discord and division? Paul was correct in stating when this is done we are carnal and walk as men; 1 Corinthians 3:3; 1 Corinthians 1:10-13.
 

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Look what he said here
He gives us the opportunity to receive him.............seriously?

That is saying we can choose.....so he’s saying it’s our choice.

Completely 100% disagree with him.......
The Bible says over and over to believe...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Shall I post all of them? How many scriptures will it take for you to believe the truth of God’s word?
 

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Yes, free willers have people in hell paying a debt for sin that Christ already paid for once, and offered it to the Father, and was accepted by the Father as payment in full for each of those sins.

Humans don't make this offering "valid" by choosing or accepting. We are not in the stead of the Father, He accepted it, and all the sins that were intended to be paid for were, and they are the sins of His people; Matthew 1:21.

If a person paid your utility bills, but the utility company didn't let you know it had been paid, and demanded you pay it, that is dishonest and crooked yet that is the position many have God in in their unfamiliarity of the atonement and propitiation, yes, even the Gospel itself.

He knows what Christ did paid their debt, and sends them to hell anyway? That scenario is a disgrace and blasphemous to the finished work of Christ on the cross, His death, burial, and resurrection.

Some people need to spend some time in the word and get some sound doctrine; 2 Timothy 4:1ff.
Pretty simple to understand.

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
 
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Pretty simple to understand.

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
I don't disagree with that, it is only upon those who believe. People aren't in hell paying for sin already propitiated of which sacrifice God the Father received. There is no injustice with God, there is no double jeopardy.

We don't receive the sacrifice, only the Father does. He grants us repentance and faith.
 
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More sowing of discord and division? Paul was correct in stating when this is done we are carnal and walk as men; 1 Corinthians 3:3; 1 Corinthians 1:10-13.

SMH

false accusation

what did Calvin have to say? mock and pat new converts on the back so they think they are part of your club?

I'm not making fun. there is nothing funny going on
 

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I wonder why people get so upset when you tell them faith is a gift from God, you’d think they’d be thankful to the Lord for... Oh, think I just figured it out. Maybe they got that Matthew 7:22 faith.
 
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I wonder why people get so upset when you tell them faith is a gift from God, you’d think they’d be thankful to the Lord for... Oh, think I just figured it out. Maybe they got that Matthew 7:22 faith.
Name everyone on this thread who’s upset that faith is a gift from God. 🍿
 
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I wonder why people get so upset when you tell them faith is a gift from God, you’d think they’d be thankful to the Lord for... Oh, think I just figured it out. Maybe they got that Matthew 7:22 faith.
I wonder how upset God is by a dogma which
makes Him morally ambigous...... falsely stating that He denies some what He gives to others.
 
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I wonder how upset God is by a dogma which
makes Him morally ambigous...... falsely stating that He denies some what He gives to others.
Jesus adamantly warns against being a stumbling block to others, but they don’t care.
 
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