Trump Outsmarts them again

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Facebook's Neutral "Fact Checkers" Exposed As Ex-CNN Staffers And Democratic Donors

https://www.zerohedge.com/technolog...exposed-ex-cnn-staffers-and-democratic-donors

The Marxist infiltration runs deep.....
Yes... indeed it does...

"Over time, Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis,[c] such as conspiracy theories and fringe rhetoric[25] that has been associated with the US radical right[14][26] and a pro-Russian bias.[27][28][29][1] Zero Hedge's non-financial commentary has led to a number of § Site bans by various global social media platforms, although its 2019 Facebook ban[30] and 2020 Twitter ban were later reversed.[14][31]

Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden"; the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.[24]"
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yes, they watch a video of bill gates speaking of population control, then go to fact check website that says gates does NOT say this, then said person says that gates DID NOT say what said person just watched gates say.....
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Please stop with all the facts!

It’s hurting leftist Christians heads, and feelings. They operate solely on feelings and emotions didn’t ya know?
Hey, can you all stop all the "bickering" over here? How about some love instead? ;);)(y)(y):) :LOL:
 
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Why did leftists demand Trump have testing, act like he should have had testing overnight, whine and complain over it?

1) So they could find as many infected as possible knowing many are asymptomatic.

2) Because more testing means more reason to point the finger at Trump.

3) So they can use inflated numbers and scare tactics to control and oppress, while destroying the economy.

It's not because Leftists care about anyone else's lives, because, well, they don't.
 
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yes, they watch a video of bill gates speaking of population control, then go to fact check website that says gates does NOT say this, then said person says that gates DID NOT say what said person just watched gates say.....

'this is not the Bill Gates you are looking for' :cool:
 
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The current data from Fox News as of today for Florida is 370,000 confirmed cases. Those are positives since the virus started.
All the experts are saying that the data being reported is most likely undercounted not over counted.
And no, I do do not believe that any states are reporting Flus as COVID 19. I do not know where you got your information. Maybe if you could post the link we could read and fact check on it.

A Florida hospital handling COVID-19 tests confirmed to media this week that its near-100% positivity rate was overstated by a factor of 10, raising already-heightened concerns in the state about possible overreporting of the number of confirmed infections.

The Florida Division of Emergency Management posts a daily coronavirus update on its website, which features a list of the positivity rates of every COVID testing facility in the state. Hundreds of labs and hospitals throughout Florida are regularly testing state residents for the coronavirus.

In recent days, numerous facilities have begun reporting 100% positivity rates, figures significantly higher than the statewide average of around 15%. Many of those labs claim to have tested only one patient, though others with 100% rates report testing dozens and sometimes hundreds of patients. read the rest here if anyone cares to do so

then again, maybe the hospital is lying both ways to really confuse those desperate for a vaccination (said vaccination they are rushing to administer has some rather nasty side effects so far and just because no flu vaccine protects current years flus from attaching to people it doesn't mean this time it will be different)

I understand that some will not believe the above article because you just read an article from the hospital itself but maybe you did not read it
 

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Why did leftists demand Trump have testing, act like he should have had testing overnight, whine and complain over it?
Testing was another ploy in the series of tactics designed by the anti-Trump/anti-American conspirators to keep the US in a PERMANENT STATE OF LOCK DOWN. Now it is being used nefariously to deceive the public. Testing means nothing. The majority are asymptomatic, and anyone under age 44 (the bulk of the population) is not even at risk. Or hardly at risk.

At the same time there is no doubt whatsoever that Mr. Donald Trump MESSED UP BIG TIME since January 2020.

1. He failed to use his legitimate presidential authority to control the narrative and control all actions by all levels of government. Instead he got into demeaning arguments with the media jackals instead of shutting down his daily briefings and getting down to the nitty-gritty of what was really going on. As a result all the Leftist governors and mayors decided that they were in control.

2. He failed to gather around himself patriotic leaders and medical experts who were not a part of the Wuhan Virus Conspiracy. Instead his *Task Force* was composed of people who hated Trump. Fauci was a good buddy of Hillary Clinton, and Trump should have known this from way back. IOW he sabotaged himself from day one.

3. He allowed Redfield, Fauci, and Birx to control the agenda and the narrative. And they decided that fear-mongering and panic creation would enable them to (1) shut down the country, (2) demand social distancing (which is practically meaningless as the rioters proved), (3) demand the wearing of masks (which again are practically useless since only N95 masks work and they are for medical personnel), (4) promote the anti-HCQ propaganda to prevent people from recovering quickly and reduce the numbers at risk, (5) promote the extremely expensive and essentially useless Remdesivir + an essentially useless vaccine, and (6) finally insist on testing when there have been flu epidemics year after year and have been generally ignored.

4. He failed to set up an INDEPENDENT investigative commission to investigate all the actors -- including Fauci -- and determine that there was an actual conspiracy afoot to generate and publish fake data and fake information about everything regarding this pandemic. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN BOGUS but the President has allowed this nonsense to go on and on month after month.
 
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then again, maybe the hospital is lying both ways to really confuse those desperate for a vaccination (said vaccination they are rushing to administer has some rather nasty side effects so far and just because no flu vaccine protects current years flus from attaching to people it doesn't mean this time it will be different
The two vaccines that I have read about going into Phase 3 testing (and though they are moving faster than in the past, they are not skipping any of the safety tests they have been doing for decades) the side effects are the same for most vaccines, headache, mild fever, fatigue, muscle aches, pain at the injection site. These are always the adverse effects of a vaccine that causes your immune system reaction and is normal. It is also the number one reason people tell others that the flu shot got them sick. They don't explain they had a headache and felt like they were coming down with something and were fine the next day which is not the same as getting sick. SMH I hear it every year. Some of the blame goes to the RNs who administer the shot without opening their mouths and explaining that they can expect that for the first day or two and not to worry It goes way and beats being bed ridden for 2 weeks or dying from pneumonia.
The mRNA vaccine or another traditional type vaccine might need to be given seasonally, or it might not. We don't know yet. We wont know for a year or two. A seasonal shot would be better than being sick for 2 months and at deaths door, so I will definitely be interested.
 

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Testing was another ploy in the series of tactics designed by the anti-Trump/anti-American conspirators to keep the US in a PERMANENT STATE OF LOCK DOWN. Now it is being used nefariously to deceive the public. Testing means nothing. The majority are asymptomatic, and anyone under age 44 (the bulk of the population) is not even at risk. Or hardly at risk.

At the same time there is no doubt whatsoever that Mr. Donald Trump MESSED UP BIG TIME since January 2020.

1. He failed to use his legitimate presidential authority to control the narrative and control all actions by all levels of government. Instead he got into demeaning arguments with the media jackals instead of shutting down his daily briefings and getting down to the nitty-gritty of what was really going on. As a result all the Leftist governors and mayors decided that they were in control.

2. He failed to gather around himself patriotic leaders and medical experts who were not a part of the Wuhan Virus Conspiracy. Instead his *Task Force* was composed of people who hated Trump. Fauci was a good buddy of Hillary Clinton, and Trump should have known this from way back. IOW he sabotaged himself from day one.

3. He allowed Redfield, Fauci, and Birx to control the agenda and the narrative. And they decided that fear-mongering and panic creation would enable them to (1) shut down the country, (2) demand social distancing (which is practically meaningless as the rioters proved), (3) demand the wearing of masks (which again are practically useless since only N95 masks work and they are for medical personnel), (4) promote the anti-HCQ propaganda to prevent people from recovering quickly and reduce the numbers at risk, (5) promote the extremely expensive and essentially useless Remdesivir + an essentially useless vaccine, and (6) finally insist on testing when there have been flu epidemics year after year and have been generally ignored.

4. He failed to set up an INDEPENDENT investigative commission to investigate all the actors -- including Fauci -- and determine that there was an actual conspiracy afoot to generate and publish fake data and fake information about everything regarding this pandemic. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN BOGUS but the President has allowed this nonsense to go on and on month after month.
Unortunately Trump has yet to weed out all of the anti-American elements and advisors from his administration. Politics is a tricky business and one must tread lightly.
 
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Testing was another ploy in the series of tactics designed by the anti-Trump/anti-American conspirators to keep the US in a PERMANENT STATE OF LOCK DOWN. Now it is being used nefariously to deceive the public. Testing means nothing. The majority are asymptomatic, and anyone under age 44 (the bulk of the population) is not even at risk. Or hardly at risk.

At the same time there is no doubt whatsoever that Mr. Donald Trump MESSED UP BIG TIME since January 2020.

1. He failed to use his legitimate presidential authority to control the narrative and control all actions by all levels of government. Instead he got into demeaning arguments with the media jackals instead of shutting down his daily briefings and getting down to the nitty-gritty of what was really going on. As a result all the Leftist governors and mayors decided that they were in control.

2. He failed to gather around himself patriotic leaders and medical experts who were not a part of the Wuhan Virus Conspiracy. Instead his *Task Force* was composed of people who hated Trump. Fauci was a good buddy of Hillary Clinton, and Trump should have known this from way back. IOW he sabotaged himself from day one.

3. He allowed Redfield, Fauci, and Birx to control the agenda and the narrative. And they decided that fear-mongering and panic creation would enable them to (1) shut down the country, (2) demand social distancing (which is practically meaningless as the rioters proved), (3) demand the wearing of masks (which again are practically useless since only N95 masks work and they are for medical personnel), (4) promote the anti-HCQ propaganda to prevent people from recovering quickly and reduce the numbers at risk, (5) promote the extremely expensive and essentially useless Remdesivir + an essentially useless vaccine, and (6) finally insist on testing when there have been flu epidemics year after year and have been generally ignored.

4. He failed to set up an INDEPENDENT investigative commission to investigate all the actors -- including Fauci -- and determine that there was an actual conspiracy afoot to generate and publish fake data and fake information about everything regarding this pandemic. EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN BOGUS but the President has allowed this nonsense to go on and on month after month.
I won't go to that extreme to blame him. Hindsight is 20/20. Corrupt "leaders" and corrupt "experts" don't come right out and say "Hey, guess what, I'm a corrupt commie!!!" Swamp draining is revealing more and more of these characters who belong to the deep state.
 
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and then there is also this:

PolitiFact: On hospitals and the possible financial incentive of COVID-19 patients
Medicare is paying a 20 percent add-on to its regular hospital payments for the treatment of COVID-19 victims. That’s a result of a federal stimulus law.


well oops. :whistle:
What oops? If you have to treat people with special machines and extraordinary attempts to save their lives you should go in the red?
It is a national crisis. That is what government is for. The costs for caring for these patients is INCURRED Costs. They don't get paid for classifying them as a COVID patient, they get money for BILLING costs. They have to put them on a ventilator to charge for putting them on the ventilator etc... Oh I am sure there are charges that seem stupid. You get wheeled into a room and are there 10 minutes and they put you in another room and it shows up on the bill for huge amounts, but that is always the case with medical costs. Nothing new here.

Kaiser estimated the average Medicare payment at $13,297 for a less severe hospitalization and $40,218 for hospitalization in which a patient is treated with a ventilator for at least 96 hours.

“A COVID patient on a ventilator will need more services and more complicated services, not just the ventilator,” said Joseph Antos, a scholar in health care at the American Enterprise Institute. “It is reasonable that a patient who is on a ventilator would cost three times one who isn’t that sick.”

Medicare will pay hospitals a 20 percent “add-on” to the regular payment for COVID-19 patients. That’s a result of the CARES Act, the largest of the three federal stimulus laws enacted in response to the coronavirus, which was signed into law March 27.


“This is no scandal,” Antos said. “The 20 percent was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can’t provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped.”

But EVERYTHING is a conspiracy today. LOL. HIDE YOUR COINS.. .THEY WANT YOUR COINS..... LOL.. THEIR COMING FOR YOUR COINS....They are afraid you will melt them down for bullets after the New World Order takes over... I just made that one up... Watch how long before it shows up on a Facebook MEME. LOL
 
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The two vaccines that I have read about going into Phase 3 testing (and though they are moving faster than in the past, they are not skipping any of the safety tests they have been doing for decades) the side effects are the same for most vaccines, headache, mild fever, fatigue, muscle aches, pain at the injection site. These are always the adverse effects of a vaccine that causes your immune system reaction and is normal. It is also the number one reason people tell others that the flu shot got them sick. They don't explain they had a headache and felt like they were coming down with something and were fine the next day which is not the same as getting sick. SMH I hear it every year. Some of the blame goes to the RNs who administer the shot without opening their mouths and explaining that they can expect that for the first day or two and not to worry It goes way and beats being bed ridden for 2 weeks or dying from pneumonia.
The mRNA vaccine or another traditional type vaccine might need to be given seasonally, or it might not. We don't know yet. We wont know for a year or two. A seasonal shot would be better than being sick for 2 months and at deaths door, so I will definitely be interested.

1. I said nothing about skipping tests so why bring it up

2. the side effects are not the same for most vaccines. I don't think you are a doctor?

3. you started a thread in the prayer section asking people to pray for vaccine for covid to be ready soon

so you have responded as I knew you would. you truly exaggerate when you state being sick for 2 months and at death's door since these people are in the minority.
 
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What oops? If you have to treat people with special machines and extraordinary attempts to save their lives you should go in the red?
It is a national crisis. That is what government is for. The costs for caring for these patients is INCURRED Costs. They don't get paid for classifying them as a COVID patient, they get money for BILLING costs. They have to put them on a ventilator to charge for putting them on the ventilator etc... Oh I am sure there are charges that seem stupid. You get wheeled into a room and are there 10 minutes and they put you in another room and it shows up on the bill for huge amounts, but that is always the case with medical costs. Nothing new here.

Kaiser estimated the average Medicare payment at $13,297 for a less severe hospitalization and $40,218 for hospitalization in which a patient is treated with a ventilator for at least 96 hours.

“A COVID patient on a ventilator will need more services and more complicated services, not just the ventilator,” said Joseph Antos, a scholar in health care at the American Enterprise Institute. “It is reasonable that a patient who is on a ventilator would cost three times one who isn’t that sick.”

Medicare will pay hospitals a 20 percent “add-on” to the regular payment for COVID-19 patients. That’s a result of the CARES Act, the largest of the three federal stimulus laws enacted in response to the coronavirus, which was signed into law March 27.


“This is no scandal,” Antos said. “The 20 percent was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can’t provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped.”

But EVERYTHING is a conspiracy today. LOL. HIDE YOUR COINS.. .THEY WANT YOUR COINS..... LOL.. THEIR COMING FOR YOUR COINS....They are afraid you will melt them down for bullets after the New World Order takes over... I just made that one up... Watch how long before it shows up on a Facebook MEME. LOL

1. I never used the word conspiracy nor am I inclined to think that way automatically. however your flight in that direction in order to dismiss the article is duly noted

2. I never said there was a scandal so why do you say there is? money is a huge incentive in the medical system so let's not pretend it isn't

3. let's remember I said this: I understand that some will not believe the above article because you just read an article from the hospital itself but maybe you did not read it in post 287

some here just have a better understanding than you do. simple
 
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But EVERYTHING is a conspiracy today. LOL. HIDE YOUR COINS.. .THEY WANT YOUR COINS..... LOL.. THEIR COMING FOR YOUR COINS....They are afraid you will melt them down for bullets after the New World Order takes over... I just made that one up... Watch how long before it shows up on a Facebook MEME. LOL
you are hurting yourself

I simply posted 2 articles that dealt with your scoffing and you scoff even harder. that's on you. no need to go hahaha hysterical
 
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Unortunately Trump has yet to weed out all of the anti-American elements and advisors from his administration. Politics is a tricky business and one must tread lightly.
pretty hard to deal with decades of corruption in 4 years with half the country doing their best to make sure you cannot succeed and hating your guts because they cannot buy you like they have bought so many
 

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What oops? If you have to treat people with special machines and extraordinary attempts to save their lives you should go in the red?
It is a national crisis. That is what government is for. The costs for caring for these patients is INCURRED Costs. They don't get paid for classifying them as a COVID patient, they get money for BILLING costs. They have to put them on a ventilator to charge for putting them on the ventilator etc... Oh I am sure there are charges that seem stupid. You get wheeled into a room and are there 10 minutes and they put you in another room and it shows up on the bill for huge amounts, but that is always the case with medical costs. Nothing new here.

Kaiser estimated the average Medicare payment at $13,297 for a less severe hospitalization and $40,218 for hospitalization in which a patient is treated with a ventilator for at least 96 hours.

“A COVID patient on a ventilator will need more services and more complicated services, not just the ventilator,” said Joseph Antos, a scholar in health care at the American Enterprise Institute. “It is reasonable that a patient who is on a ventilator would cost three times one who isn’t that sick.”

Medicare will pay hospitals a 20 percent “add-on” to the regular payment for COVID-19 patients. That’s a result of the CARES Act, the largest of the three federal stimulus laws enacted in response to the coronavirus, which was signed into law March 27.


“This is no scandal,” Antos said. “The 20 percent was added by Congress because hospitals have lost revenue from routine care and elective surgeries that they can’t provide during this crisis, and because the cost of providing even routine services to COVID patients has jumped.”

But EVERYTHING is a conspiracy today. LOL. HIDE YOUR COINS.. .THEY WANT YOUR COINS..... LOL.. THEIR COMING FOR YOUR COINS....They are afraid you will melt them down for bullets after the New World Order takes over... I just made that one up... Watch how long before it shows up on a Facebook MEME. LOL
If you're running a hospital (A Business) for profit, and you receive information that all Covid19 related cases are paying 20% more, what is the natural thing to consider?

"Fraudulent" Covid19 Cases, A No Brainer
 
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about the vaccines. let's be real. they are not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.


With a little luck and a lot of science, the world might in the not-too-distant future get vaccines against Covid-19. But those vaccines won’t necessarily prevent all or even most infections.

In the public imagination, vaccines are often seen effectively as cure-alls, like inoculations against measles.

Rather than those vaccines, however, the Covid-19 vaccines in development may be more like those that protect against influenza — reducing the risk of contracting the disease, and of experiencing severe symptoms should infection occur, a number of experts told STAT.

“We all recognize that flu vaccine, in a year when it’s efficacious, you have what, 50% protection? And in a year when it’s poor you have 30% or less than that — and still we use that,” said Marie-Paule Kieny, who is chairing a committee advising the French government on vaccines to prevent Covid-19.

Ideally, vaccines would prevent infection entirely, inducing what’s known as “sterilizing immunity.” But early work on some of the vaccine candidates suggests they may not stop infection in the upper respiratory tract — and they may not stop an infected person from spreading virus by coughing or speaking.

for the rest of the article
 

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pretty hard to deal with decades of corruption in 4 years with half the country doing their best to make sure you cannot succeed and hating your guts because they cannot buy you like they have bought so many
To the Democrats everything has a price tag. They simply cannot fathom sacrifice, faithfulness and fidelity to your country.