BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a type of Baal worship.

[kaylagrl]

If race/ethnicity didn't matter and if we treated all lives equally, would this still be the case? I think not.

Ok well that was a whole lot of assumptions rolled into one. The reason black on black crime is being mentioned is because it is a much bigger issue and killing a lot more black people than white police do. So all of what you said has no bearing on the point being made.

This is exactly why, as a comparison, initially brought up how well Jewish people are treated even though their religion can literally be proven to have a foundation in Ba'al worship

That's news to me. Both that Jewish people are "well treated" in comparison to blacks and that their religious has a foundation in Baal worship. I expect you'll fill me in on that one.

, and even though they're guilty of literal human rights violations and crimes against international law.

Which human rights are they in violation of or crimes? Also news to me.

 

[kaylagrl]

Would it interest you to know that the names of the parties essentially switched? I recall something like that happening in history...

Re-visionist history, never happened.

 

[Yahshua]

Ok well that was a whole lot of assumptions rolled into one. The reason black on black crime is being mentioned is because it is a much bigger issue and killing a lot more black people than white police do. So all of what you said has no bearing on the point being made.

No bearing? Are you sure? So if the police are meant to keep crime at bay in communities...but then do not do a good job and instead target the upstanding citizens of that community...what happens to crime in that community? It's the same problem; two sides of the same coin. How do you reduce crime without proper policing?

That's news to me. Both that Jewish people are "well treated" in comparison to blacks and that their religion has a foundation in Baal worship. I expect you'll fill me in on that one.

Which human rights are they in violation of or crimes? Also news to me.

https://christianchat.com/threads/b...is-a-type-of-baal-worship.193407/post-4317336

Read this post first ^

https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...pe-of-baal-worship.193407/page-8#post-4318323

Check out the links and videos in this post next^ (the first video should show the remaining parts in "related" section on youtube)

Re-visionist history, never happened.

hmm. Ok, if you say so.

 

[kaylagrl]

No bearing? Are you sure? So if the police are meant to keep crime at bay in communities...but then do not do a good job and instead target the upstanding citizens of that community...what happens to crime in that community? It's the same problem; two sides of the same coin. How do you reduce crime without proper policing?

So you're saying black on black crime is because of bad policing? Or did I miss something?

hmm. Ok, if you say so.

No, I don't say so, history says so. I'll check your links here before I respond more.

 

[Yahshua]

So you're saying black on black crime is because of bad policing? Or did I miss something?

Crime is crime. There's no special designation of "black on black" crime that's different from other crimes committed by criminals against upstanding citizens anywhere.

No, I don't say so, history says so. I'll check your links here before I respond more.

mmmok.

 

[soggykitten]

Would it interest you to know that the names of the parties essentially switched? I recall something like that happening in history...

I don't know what you're saying here. What parties?

 

[Yahshua]

I don't know what you're saying here. What parties?

Ok, so I looked it up. It was the platforms that switched between the two parties...that's what I was remembering.

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1) The Democratic-Republican Party (for a republic, but split on slavery) vs. The Federalists Party (for a monarchy)


The Democratic-Republican Party split to form...


2) The Democratic Party (for rule of the people) vs. The Whig Party (for rule of law, but split on slavery)


The Whig Party fell and let to...


3) The Republican Party (for anti-slavery and social justice programs primarily protecting blacks = big government) vs. The Democratic Party (for smaller government and consolidation of power)


...but the party platforms were blurred when The Democratic Party also adopted the social justice platform, and then eventually the republican party assumed the opposing platform of smaller government and no social justice programs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party#Legacy
https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

 

[kaylagrl]

I don't know what you're saying here. What parties?

He's talking about the southern strategy and he's wrong.

 

[kaylagrl]

Crime is crime. There's no special designation of "black on black" crime that's different from other crimes committed by criminals against upstanding citizens anywhere.

No, you're wrong again. Black on black crime have stats, it's an actual issue and problem within the community and it needs to be addressed.

 

[Yahshua]

No, you're wrong again. Black on black crime have stats, it's an actual issue and problem within the community and it needs to be addressed.

You're revealing your "ism", Kaylagrl.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There's no special designation of "black on black" crime that's different from other crimes committed by criminals against upstanding citizens anywhere.

IF BLM had not made race an issue, no one would talk about black-on-black crime. But since they have been chanting "Systemic Racism" and "White Police Brutality" the general public should be made fully aware that all their talk is bogus.

Blacks are killing off blacks in far higher numbers than either whites or police. Those are the statistics for many years. And since BLM does not want to deal with this reality, they DO NOT really care about black lives. All they care about is their Marxist agenda to destroy America and install totalitarianism (with Communist blacks calling the shots).

BLM should have been declared an Anti-American and Domestic Terrorist organization years ago. And Trump should have had all their leaders in jail by now. The same goes for Antifa. The only reason anarchists are getting away with murder is because the government is spineless and feckless. In fact the Democrats are colluding with and encouraging the anarchists for their own selfish reasons.

 

[Hevosmies]

Have you watched the documentary? It's 7 parts (roughly 15 mins each). I only posted the 1st part (as the rest should appear in "related" videos section).

I'm asking is because your points are clearly dispelled by several Jewish scholars and historians within the documentary.

Okay bro I watched the documentary. THEY'LL PAY FOR EVICTING THOSE CHRISTIANS OFF THEIR LAND. You best believe.

My heart and prayer goes out to those Palestinian Christians kicked out of their homes and had their fertile land taken only to be sent to a miserable refugee camp where they are in DANGER because of their faith.

 

[Hevosmies]

IF BLM had not made race an issue, no one would talk about black-on-black crime. But since they have been chanting "Systemic Racism" and "White Police Brutality" the general public should be made fully aware that all their talk is bogus.

Blacks are killing off blacks in far higher numbers than either whites or police. Those are the statistics for many years. And since BLM does not want to deal with this reality, they DO NOT really care about black lives. All they care about is their Marxist agenda to destroy America and install totalitarianism (with Communist blacks calling the shots).

BLM should have been declared an Anti-American and Domestic Terrorist organization years ago. And Trump should have had all their leaders in jail by now. The same goes for Antifa. The only reason anarchists are getting away with murder is because the government is spineless and feckless. In fact the Democrats are colluding with and encouraging the anarchists for their own selfish reasons.

Great post! Always whining about systematic racism, while there aint a single law in America thats racist. Except as some of yall mentioned, affirmative action.

The BLM/leftist mindset is: "dont confuse me with facts, and dont bother me with reality"

They got their agenda and they'll push it no matter what, all evidence doesnt matter. The agenda is: White people are evil devils, cops are racist (even the black cops are called names by these guys, Uncle Tom and such) and everyon should bow down to them because their ancestors were oppressed.

Well these privileged lazy people in America complaining about how tough it is in a 1st world country aint seen nothing yet, plus if we were to give these people the power we'd be living in anarchy real fast, squatter camps. Everything would be vandalized faster than you can say "These people couldnt build a house if their life depended on it"

And by these people i dont mean BLACKS before someone gets offended, I mean the BLM "people" who are looting murdering and pillaging and shouting at the world. I know blacks who are anti-BLM, and surprise they get hated by some of their peers. Salute to them for STANDING UP againnst the crowd.

I heard that there was some football match and everyone kneeled for the national anthem except ONE person, and she had to give a statement afterwards as to why she didnt. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? In America, you have to give a statement on why you chose to stand for the national anthem. SICKENING, I always used to look at America as a Christian nation (culturally speaking not saying everyone is saved) that was patriotic. YET sadly I see its turning to a communist hellhole with self-hatred just like my home country. Sign of the times? Anyone got any verses about this?

 

[kaylagrl]

You're revealing your "ism", Kaylagrl.

What I'm revealing is there is a serious issue in the black community that needs to be dealt with but is being ignored because it doesn't fit the agenda of Dem politicians, movie stars, BLM and other sham orgs. that pretend to care about the black community but only take advantage. Actually abortion bothers me far more than black on black crime. And if the black community doesn't look to these issues there will no longer be enough of them to even be a minority. So you can blather the secular agenda all you want, and say black lives matter, but as long as Planned Parenthood continues their murder factories and blacks look the other way as black on black crime remains unaddressed, black lives matter is nothing more than an empty slogan.

 

[kaylagrl]

Okay bro I watched the documentary. THEY'LL PAY FOR EVICTING THOSE CHRISTIANS OFF THEIR LAND. You best believe.

My heart and prayer goes out to those Palestinian Christians kicked out of their homes and had their fertile land taken only to be sent to a miserable refugee camp where they are in DANGER because of their faith.

The land belongs to the Jews. Biblically and historically. No one has been kicked off their land. Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and the world can't even allow them that. It is their homeland, they have 3000 yrs of history in the land. Palestinians were offered land and refused it because they hated the Jews so badly they didn't want to share the land. They don't get to turn around now and cry about it.

 

[soggykitten]

You're revealing your "ism", Kaylagrl.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say Kaylagrl is revealing her "tics"?

Aside from the point of black on black crime, how about the statistics for black on white crime? And white on black crime? As well as police homicide? Meaning, police murdered in the line of duty or off duty?

Tallies of Homicides by racial composition numbers has never been a matter of racism. It is a matter of tracking crime that is employed as a method by the Bureau of Justice and also the FBI.

 

[Hevosmies]

The land belongs to the Jews. Biblically and historically. No one has been kicked off their land. Israel sits on 1% of the land in the ME and the world can't even allow them that. It is their homeland, they have 3000 yrs of history in the land. Palestinians were offered land and refused it because they hated the Jews so badly they didn't want to share the land. They don't get to turn around now and cry about it.

I agree it belongs to the Jews, there were Jews living there before the converts to Judaism from Europe with russian funny looking hats moved in. There has always been and always will be Jews in Jerusalem.

Dont know if you watched the documentary or not, but Christians were indeed kicked off the property. NO GOOD, God wont be happy with that. Thats what I was talking about, kicking Christians off their property will come with consequences from God, thats for sure. Dont care what state does it.

I agree Jews have history in the land, but the folks that moved after the 1940s sure dont got any history there, unless we go back thousands of years. Especially the ginger ones, come on now? They are clearly of celtic origin! They only got in because judaism is their religion.

I havent heard they were offered land, the lady in the documentary seemed very upset, as was her family, they werent muslims conspiricing against the state of Israel, they were Christians. I will do some research on this though, if they were offered land, then this is a famous psy-op operation by the documentary makers.

Btw: Are you or anyone else here aware that ANYONE in the world could convert to Judaism today, get papers signed by their Rabbi and move to Israel based on the "law of return"? So an irish guy could convert to Judaism in Dublin and move to Israel. Thats how it works, its more about religion than ethnicity to the state of Israel, they dont care if you descend from the 12 tribes, but if you uphold the religion of Judaism.

Im a supporter of Israel, im a nationalist I believe every people should have their own country. HOWEVER, I think they should make it a DNA TEST instead of this "just belong to judaism's religion and you're in" thing.
Im a supporter, not a blind supporter tho and if Christians are being mistreated I dont care who it is. Im mad about it.

 

[Yahshua]

IF BLM had not made race an issue, no one would talk about black-on-black crime. But since they have been chanting "Systemic Racism" and "White Police Brutality" the general public should be made fully aware that all their talk is bogus.

Blacks are killing off blacks in far higher numbers than either whites or police. Those are the statistics for many years. And since BLM does not want to deal with this reality, they DO NOT really care about black lives. All they care about is their Marxist agenda to destroy America and install totalitarianism (with Communist blacks calling the shots).

BLM should have been declared an Anti-American and Domestic Terrorist organization years ago. And Trump should have had all their leaders in jail by now. The same goes for Antifa. The only reason anarchists are getting away with murder is because the government is spineless and feckless. In fact the Democrats are colluding with and encouraging the anarchists for their own selfish reasons.

Isaiah 11:3-4 (partial)
And He will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what His eyes see, and He will not decide by what His ears hear, but with righteousness He will judge the poor, and with equity He will decide for the lowly of the earth.

^This is who I try to emulate when dealing with these situations like BLM and etc. Our professed faith doesn't exist in a vacuum. The whole point of my commenting in this thread is to attempt to get brothers and sisters to see beyond what they've been fed; beyond talking points, and parties, and groups, and what's been presented to them (on both sides) and to instead judge these situations how the Messiah would (past talking points).

Again, I can't speak for the BLM group too much but I can speak on the notion/motivation behind it (i.e. the phrase), and as a student of history knowing what I now know we can't divorce this country's foundation, development, and operating from racism. Maybe would like to but can't.

I already shared with you in other threads that I now believe the USA is the "beast of the earth" of Revelation 13 because it fits all the characteristics throughout history. (for anyone else reading this post, yes I now take a historicist view of eschatology versus a futurist view). And the more I research its history the more it appears to be true. But nevermind that. Let me share with you a couple of things I wasn't taught in school. Blew my mind...

1) The 13th Amendment
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.​

Question: Did slavery end?

2) Police departments and the history of slave patrols and night watches

"Some of the primary policing institutions there were the slave patrols tasked with chasing down runaways and preventing slave revolts, Potter says; the first formal slave patrol had been created in the Carolina colonies in 1704. During the Civil War, the military became the primary form of law enforcement in the South, but during Reconstruction, many local sheriffs functioned in a way analogous to the earlier slave patrols, enforcing segregation and the disenfranchisement of freed slaves."

https://time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/

"Slavery and the abuse of people of color, however, was not merely a southern affair as many have been taught to believe. Connecticut, New York and other colonies enacted laws to criminalize and control slaves."

https://plsonline.eku.edu/insidelook/brief-history-slavery-and-origins-american-policing ​

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-origins-of-policing-in-the-united-states/

3) Police officers have quotas and orders from command to target minorities

"[I retired because] I got tired of hunting Black and Hispanic people because of arrest quotas...[commander] Tsachas would get angry if you tried to patrol subway stations in predominately white or Asian neighborhoods" - Christopher LaForce Ret. NYPD officer in affidavit.

https://lawandcrime.com/police/laws...bway-riders-in-order-to-pad-their-statistics/

"The laws are to the point where anybody can be locked-up for any time...But you don't [need a reason to arrest] that's the thing you're not understanding...so, like, they [*points at men*] were in the street, that's enough." - Former Baltimore officer

(forgive the slight language)



4) A partial list of products made in "for-profit" prisons

Clothing
Uniforms
Furniture
Mattresses
Product Packaging
Signs
Lingerie
Car Parts
Public Structures
Food
Military Equipment
Canoes
Caps
Jeans
etc...

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/51037/11-products-you-might-not-realize-were-made-prisoners
https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/things-you-own-prison-inmates-made.html/​

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Definition of systemic - relating to a system, especially as opposed to a particular part.

Definition of system - a set of things working together as parts of a mechanism or an interconnecting network.


It's a pretty big coincidence that the very same ethnic group that was targeted for slavery in the past is now the highest percentage of criminals in this country today, especially considering what the 13th amendment actually says.

 

[Yahshua]

What I'm revealing is there is a serious issue in the black community that needs to be dealt with but is being ignored because it doesn't fit the agenda of Dem politicians, movie stars, BLM and other sham orgs. that pretend to care about the black community but only take advantage. Actually abortion bothers me far more than black on black crime. And if the black community doesn't look to these issues there will no longer be enough of them to even be a minority. So you can blather the secular agenda all you want, and say black lives matter, but as long as Planned Parenthood continues their murder factories and blacks look the other way as black on black crime remains unaddressed, black lives matter is nothing more than an empty slogan.

lol yeah, you seem really concerned with their plight. But secular agenda? I have a biblical agenda I've been "blathering" on about though. I'm not the one who's been down-voting posts that call for us to ignore party affiliations here. seems like you're more aligned with a political party than with the Messiah, but I could be wrong *shrugs*...

 

[Yahshua]

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say Kaylagrl is revealing her "tics"?

Aside from the point of black on black crime, how about the statistics for black on white crime? And white on black crime? As well as police homicide? Meaning, police murdered in the line of duty or off duty?

Tallies of Homicides by racial composition numbers has never been a matter of racism. It is a matter of tracking crime that is employed as a method by the Bureau of Justice and also the FBI.

Statistics without context are empty numbers. For example, let's say you cross the street between traffic lights and get arrested for jaywalking. You are now a criminal in the system. Your name forever associated with crime. This gets placed on your record and when you get interviewed for a job and are asked if you have a criminal record you must say "yes". If you say "no" you'd be lying, which is worse to do.

This question is also on applications. And typically there aren't any follow-up questions to understand the context of your crime. You must mark "yes", and will most likely be passed on for the job.

Without context, statistics do not tell the complete story. This goes for any set of statistics, whether we're discussing crime or monetary policy, or whatever.

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Now I joked with Karlagrl about her "ism" showing because she's doing exactly what most do when they slip into an "ism": make blanketed assumptions and generalizations.

For example, if I were to say, "If women weren't so irrational and emotional our society would be a less chaotic place", how would a woman most likely respond? Would they say:

A) "lol you're right! And it's my job - as a woman - to help solve this problem for my gender as a whole. Society demands it."

OR

B) "That's an extremely *sexist* statement to make. It's a blanketed statement made about all women that assume we're all irrational and overly emotional. You can't assume the problems in society are directly attributed to all women."

...most likely they'd say something close to "B" if not exactly "B". Sexism.

Well, that's the same thing happening when a person says, "Far more black people are killed within their own community by their own community." If we take this statement on its face it doesn't give any context or distinction between upstanding citizens and degenerate criminals in that community, it just groups them all together.

Compound this with phrases like "black on black" crime, and statements like "the police shouldn't be the most important issue to the black community but rather their own community killing themselves", making no distinction between good and bad people (which every ethnic group possesses), we're consequently saying that "blacks - as an ethnic group - are more criminal than any other ethnic group".

We have to be careful we're not making blanketed statements and generalizations.