BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a type of Baal worship.

JaumeJ · Jul 15, 2020

Please keep in mind I am supporting the meaning of the words, black lives matter. I am not a joiner of any political organization for my politics can only be the monarchy of the Kingdom of our Father.. Please do not place me in any terrorist group, real or imagined. Foe now I tend to believe this v erion I am getting here in Spain of a BLM terrorist group a fantasy of people with opposing political views, and nothing to do with our loving others, nothing at all it seems Enough of the hysteria and rumor mongering.

JaumeJ · Jul 15, 2020

I posted the following elsewhere with my mind on how so many are so concerned with the political aspects, which blind them from caring for all people the same, friend and foe alike. Please examine your own motivations whether they are for the nations depicted in the sstory or in the Spirit of all going to the Kingdom. Do not be deceived.

King Nebuchadnezzar had a dream of a great idol. Daniel interpreted the dream for him. All who read the Word know this story, and prophecy of civilization. from Babylon to the end of all civilization. The Stone which is to dash that idol to pieces is not yet come. That Stone is the Kingdom to come.

The point of this reminder is to give rise to introspection for all individuals. Ask yourselves if you are awaiting the Kingdom to come, or have you become impatient and are worshiping the idol.

I see many false brethren who are not only worshiping the idol but proselytizing for it. All must recognize exactly what is being taught to the innocents. God bless all and remain always in Yeshua-Jesus.

kaylagrl · Jul 15, 2020

JaumeJ said:

Let us keep on the subjects posted without twisting individuals-' comments.
When most of us say black lives do matter, we are not members of a movement nor condoning any such. NO, we are saying what our Lord and Savior teaches us.

When you say BLM this refers to the movement and the org. People will assume this is what you mean, if you don't,say so.

JaumeJ said:

In this instance there was a man, George Floyd, killed by the actions of a policeman and aided by the protection doing so by other policemen. This is murder in most people-s understanding.

kaylagrl · Jul 15, 2020

JaumeJ said:

No, they are not rumors. They are taken directly from the BLM site. In their own words. That cannot be considered a rumor. It's direct from their site.

JaumeJ said:

Literally no one here has said lives of black people don't matter. The first case you mentioned happened in the 90s and has been closed for years. I have no idea about the second. Again, bad cops should be rooted out, literally everyone agrees with that. What some of us are saying is won't agree with BLM, the Marxist movement. And no Christian should.

JaumeJ said:

And now you're just totally out of line. Who are you calling a racist pig?! And why are you calling anyone a racist pig? Wow, just so far out of line. You ought to apologize for a comment like that. Just, wow!

JaumeJ · Jul 15, 2020

Any who are against the idea of a life being of value because of race is a recast . I added pig for the understanding of just how low anone is who things in this manner. I called no specific individual anything, you have deflected by diverting the meaning to your imagination. Of course many today imagine something and to them it is truth .

kaylagrl · Jul 15, 2020

JaumeJ said:

Literally no one here has said a life doesn't matter. So you're arguing with yourself here. What some have said is BLM is Marxist and has an agenda. You're adding a whole lot that hasn't been said by anyone.

Kolistus · Jul 15, 2020

Chester said:

Affirmative action is genuine institutional racism, the only real kind that exists, there is no law in any country that prevents you from doing something because you are black..

The blacks in America (as do all other americans) have it made, they are living in one of the most prosperous countries on the planet with more than enough food and they are better off than 99,9% of the people living in Sub-sarahan Africa.

Black lives do matter, they need to stop promoting gangs, drugs, cheating on their wifes, violence and all sorts of criminal activity, because that is what started happening ever since the 80s with gangsta rap influencing an entire generation and it continues on till this day to ruin the black community by promoting crime. People grow up in single parent households (that one parent may also be on drugs and listening to this same type of music, that is where they learn) and end up becoming walking hip hop stereotypes.

There has been 400million dealings with the police in America, of these 9 blacks have died, 4 of them in suspicious circumstances, rest were justified, I would call those some great statistics.
There is an issue with criminal brutality, but not police brutality. The police quite the contrary are not allowed to even act in the state of Colorado soon, they cant even fire on a fleeing suspect anymore. If you do as you are told and put the officer at ease and act calm, you are safe with the police 99,9% of the cases. I also wonder WHAT are these people doing that they allegedly have these constant run ins with the police? I suspect they are either LYING (as one BLM supporter was caught recently putting racist graffiti in his own car to push his agenda and trying to get some pity points from the liberal whites as that always seems to work, liberals love talking down to black people and like to treat them as helpless pet dogs instead of responsible human beings) or they are doing something they shouldnt be doing.

Police lives matter and I feel bad for anyone who is a cop in America in 2020, the general public is acting all gangsta on you (they dont mind calling the police and singing like birds if the situation arises though, hypocrites) and hates you and disrespects you, you dont get paid nearly enough, you put your life at risk everytime you go to work and on top of all that you risk going to PRISON for life, because some criminal tries to pull something on you, adrenaline is rushing and you make a quick judgment call, sometimes right, sometimes wrong and you end up in prison where cops are also hated.
Oh, and black police lives matter, lets not forget there are many police officers who are black!

Yahshua · Jul 15, 2020

soggykitten said:

Hi and welcome. Do you feel attacked?

You're rather new here so maybe I'll share this. This is a forum. You brought to mind something worth speaking on and quotes are also used here for establishing the context of a post. If I say it wasn't directed to you it wasn't. Passive aggressiveness is not a trait common to people like me lol. Stick around and you'll see. Also, it shouldn't matter what other people think about you, but it does, so that's something you'll need to deal with I guess. Pray on it and the Father will help with that.

soggykitten said:

lol it wasn't a thesis I was writing, but a point I was making...you know, just like you made your point without any evidence? But since we're going down this (argumentative) path here you go...

I get my information from a wide variety of written sources. If you'd like those written sources just message me. But to streamline things a bit I've provided a few articles and videos that will help put things into perspective.

soggykitten said:

In the context of humanity, there's only 1 race, mankind...but in the context of how the word is used today (to mean ethnicity), there is indeed an ethnic group that distinguishes itself from all other ethnic groups based on the identification of "Jew" or "Jewish". And there are many more Christians who also give special treatment to that ethnic group, not based on common religious ideals or beliefs but specifically based on that group's ethnic designation.

What started as an ethnic designation (Tribe of Judah) became a religious identification (Phariseeism > Talmudism > Judaism) and then it switched back to an ethnic designation as was needed at the time. For example:

1. The Hebrew biblical position on identity (of an Israelite and then a Jew) was determined through the father (see Genesis 10 - Table of nations). Meanwhile, today's identity is determined through the mother..."This Talmudic position became normative in Jewish Law". (see https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/patrilineal-descent/ ).

2. The Law of Return (Hebrew: חֹוק הַשְׁבוּת, ḥok ha-shvūt) is an Israeli law, passed on 5 July 1950, which gives Jews the right to come and live in Israel and to gain Israeli citizenship...even if they've NEVER lived in Israel.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

3. One can be falsely accused of "racial discrimination" and "hate speech" when criticizing "Israeli governmental policies" (i.e. they're called "antisemitic", which means "against Shem's bloodline"). Ironically, Palestinians/Arabs are also Semitic but we don't give much care to their plight.

4. Even though boycotting (i.e. refusing to patronize businesses through the purchase of goods and services) is as American as apple pie, U.S. states have passed "anti-boycott" laws that make it illegal to boycott the State of Israel, a foreign entity.

see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Anti-Boycott_Act
see https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/04/23/us-states-use-anti-boycott-laws-punish-responsible-businesses

^ We're angry at BLM for supposedly sparking protests that harm American businesses but American businesses can be shut down for not supporting a foreign power. 0_o? Even American workers can be fired for not pledging support to a foreign government https://www.newsweek.com/teacher-fired-refusing-sign-pro-israel-document-1262083

soggykitten said:

With respect, you've drunk the kool-aid.

The following is a documentary contributed to by Jewish scholars and activists, Christian activists, a former representative from the US state department, and a few others that debunk several myths we've been told about the State of Israel.

The USA IS a Christian nation. So why isn't it supporting persecuted "Christian Arabs/Palestinians" over an orthodox and atheistic/secular Israeli government? Why is it supporting a secular nation that's completely against its Christian ideals? They're only supported because they're a "Jewish" State like you said above.

soggykitten said:

lol well, that's a magic trick seeing as the Babylonian Talmud was created AFTER the Torah (Hebrew Scriptures). The Talmud didn't originate from Judah's captivity in Babylon. It was created after the 70Ad destruction, by Pharisees who fled to Babylon. It's literally the "traditions of the Pharisees" codified.

The Torah (so-called Old Testament) isn't Judaism.

Mark 7:13 [Brackets mine]
Making the word of God [Torah] of none effect through your tradition [future Talmudism/Judaism], which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Here's another playlist of a biblical and scholarly study on what happened after Babylonian captivity...and why orthodox rabbis invoke the name "hashem".

soggykitten said:

Soooo what you're saying is Israel isn't 1st in the world when it comes to LGBT celebrations.....but that Israel is 2nd in the world. Ok thanks.

I would be remiss if I didn't offer scripture for you to ruminate on. But this post is getting long and I'm running out of characters so I'll just link to an older post.

https://christianchat.com/threads/a-discussion-of-the-nearness-of-the-endtimes.192139/post-4247095

It references prophecy given through Ezekiel about events to occur after Judah returned to their land following the Babylonian captivity (during the Roman occupation), and then through to the regathering and establishment of the Messiah's kingdom. After you read it please share your thoughts on the following question directed at you specifically.

Question: If the resurrection is supposed to occur during the regathering of Israel - a resurrection that happens when the Messiah comes, which we know hasn't happened yet - how is Israel currently in the land right now prior to the Messiah coming? And if Ezekiel says Israel will dwell safely in their land with "unwalled villages" when they return, why are the people building more and more walls?

Nehemiah6 · Jul 15, 2020

Chester said:

Actually BLM needs to be THOROUGHLY EXPOSED for what it truly is. A Satanic conspiracy to (1) STEAL, (2) KILL and (3) DESTROY. They are literally destroying black lives as well as the goodwill of all the other ethnic groups in America.

Black Lives Matter AWOL as violence claims hundreds of Black victims
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/9/black-lives-matter-awol-hundreds-blacks-killed-wav/

"Black Lives Matter" should have been declared a domestic terrorist organization back in 2016 (along with Antifa). But there is not a single politician on the right who has the guts to speak the truth about any matter. And President Trump has simply stood by and allowed anarchy to prevail.

Yahshua · Jul 15, 2020

Nehemiah6 said:

Curious. Just posing a question that maybe you will know. Why hasn't the KKK been considered a terrorist organization? It's been present since 1860s, but they're protected by the 1st amendment. All things being equal, The Patriot Act's definition should equally classify that group as a terrorist group also. Even biblically, the KKK has killed, stolen, and destroyed.

tourist · Jul 15, 2020

Godsgirl83 said:

Yes, indeed. Sadly, Duke died a couple years ago. He actually lived in the city I used to live, Apopka which is about 10 miles NW of Orlando. The baked beans are good though.

Hevosmies · Jul 15, 2020

Yahshua said:

Because there are very few Christian arabs, people make that point all the time. MOST people in Gaza or westbank are islamic and HATE the Jews (and christians too!) and will not settle for any peace deal as we have seen TIME and TIME again. Israel wants peace, we'll give you this, we'll give you that, but like with all of these demonic "gimme gimme gimme" movements, its never enough and they are never happy. One of the head honchos at Gaza actually said they aint happy until the Jews are driven to the sea. NOW THATS REAL HATE SPEECH, but because hes not a Christian, he gets a free pass. A free ride as always.

Yahshua · Jul 15, 2020

Hevosmies said:

Have you watched the documentary? It's 7 parts (roughly 15 mins each). I only posted the 1st part (as the rest should appear in "related" videos section).

I'm asking is because your points are clearly dispelled by several Jewish scholars and historians within the documentary.

Jackson123 · Jul 15, 2020

Yahshua said:

It is, kkk is not christian

soggykitten · Jul 15, 2020

Yahshua said:

I'll throw in on why the KKK hasn't been designated as a terrorist group.
Let us consider the current domestic terror groups ANTIFA and BLM who appear to have united in their efforts of late.
Think to all the acts of terror and violence each group has committed in say the last two months. Or, in the timeline since Mr.George Floyd was murdered by police.

Where were the KKK?

Any news reporting the KKK showed up and beat back ANTIFA and BLM anywhere in America? How about when BLM descended on D.C.? No permit to gather by the hundreds in front of the White House. No standing six feet apart, no one wore masks per the Covid 19 mandate. Car bombs were suspected though. Were any found. I don't know, I'm asking.

The KKK's bad boys are either too old to act up the way they use to, or they're dead. The new generation ride on the coattails of the legend. They talk a lot of smack on websites like Storm Front, the most popular as I understand it, and also likely most surveilled by federal law enforcement. Once in awhile when they're media attention hungry they'll buy permits and march in small towns.

Other than that, what they do is talk smack, throw pejoratives at their favorite race to hate, and stir up the locals as they parade in their white pride getup. That's freedom of speech. Even hate speech.

Whereas ANTIFA and BLM do qualify as Domestic Terror groups. I looked it up and the U.S. Patriot Act defines Domestic Terrorism. And ANTIFA and BLM fit the bill perfectly.

Pasted from the justice site link that dispels the myths about the USPA. https://www.justice.gov/archive/ll/subs/add_myths.htm#s802
Section 802. Definition of domestic terrorism.

Summary: Adds to 18 U.S.C. § 2331 a new definition of "domestic terrorism," similar to the existing definition of "international terrorism."
Myth: "Expands terrorism laws to include 'domestic terrorism' which could subject political organizations to surveillance, wiretapping, harassment, and criminal action for political advocacy." [ACLU, Feb. 11, 2003]; The Patriot Act includes "provision that might allow the actions of peaceful groups that dissent from government policy, such as Greenpeace, to be treated as 'domestic terrorism.'" [ACLU fundraising letter, cited by Stuart Taylor, "Backlash Grows against Patriot Act- But Critics Miss the Mark," Fulton County Daily Report, Aug. 5, 2003]
Reality:
- Section 802's definition of "domestic terrorism" is extremely narrow - indeed, it is much narrower than the pre-existing definition of "international terrorism."
- Individuals and groups would be eligible for surveillance under this definition only if they engage in criminal wrongdoing that could result in death. That is so because the definition of "domestic terrorism" is limited to conduct that (1) violates federal or state criminal law and (2) is dangerous to human life.
- - In addition, law enforcement would have to show that the conduct appears to have been committed with a specified terrorism related intent, and that the conduct occurred primarily in the U.S.
  - By contrast, an individual would fall within the definition of "international terrorism" whenever he or she commits a crime that involves "violent" conduct.

At least that's what I think.

JaumeJ · Jul 16, 2020

kaylagrl said:

Hmmmm. I have commented sstrictly upon the phrase, black lives matter. If BLM iorganized as is the republican party, the democratic party, then I have nothing to do with it, however the phrase, which I have mentioned several times does mean a lot, and yes some here do change what others have posted.

crossnote · Jul 16, 2020

tourist said:

except, both are inspired by satan.

JaumeJ · Jul 16, 2020

kaylagrl said:

iThe following is a quote of one of my posts on the subject with a mention by you by your own decision that you are indifferendt. It is a perfecte example coupled with your comment here of just how you change the meaning of posts, my posts anyway.

Let us keep on the subjects posted without twisting individuals-' comments.

When most of us say black lives do matter, we are not members of a movement nor condoning any such. NO, we are saying what our Lord and Savior teaches us.

In this instance there was a man, George Floyd, killed by the actions of a policeman and aided by the protection doing so by other policemen. This is murder in most people-s understanding.

As for my saying Christianity is communism, this would be impossible since Christianity is the umbrella title of many sects, none of which are correct for they oppose one another.

I did post that some would deem an individual as communist or Marxist who follows all of the teachings of Jesus-Yeshua, and this cannot be denied for He teaches many concepts that no Christian follows perfectly. Sell all you own and give to the poor, then follow Him. Give without allowing your one hand giving to be seen by the left. Much more. I do not see people selling all they own and giving to the poor and needy.

There will always be people not agreeing with others. This is the way of man but read what they post here, and comment truly without perverting. I have never said Christianity is communism because no two within the ranks of it agree. Perhaps those of the Faith of Abraham do, but not those who call themselves Christians like the new title given at Antioch.

All lives matter, but right now we are spotlighting how our black family is being slaughtered by certain types of so-called white people. Go ahead, argue that, deny that and allow the slaughter to continue.

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crossnote · Jul 16, 2020

Chester said:

Black Hearts Matter, and without the cleansing blood of Jesus, we all have black hearts.

soberxp · Jul 16, 2020

Duskey said:

Maybe you don't fully understand the meaning of this sentence. It's not just that BLM should embrace it ,we also should.
Since BLM happened,We should not stir up new contradictions, but find ways to ease them. No matter whether you are white supremacy or against white supremacy, as long as you are a Christian, you should do this to understand this sentence of the Bible
Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of god.

BLM (Black Lives Matter) is a type of Baal worship.

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