Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

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Rosemaryx

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jackrosie said:
When we allow God to speak through us it is truly amazing......but self can and does get in the way at times.

But he is showing me that....
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Amen...He showing me to , on how not to behave in a certain manner , it is humbling when God corrects us , it reminds me of how He has His eye on us all the time , even what we type...
...xox...
 
jackrosie

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oyster67 said:
I wish we could just drop all these labels and phrases and ask;

"Do All Have A Choice"?
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I can only speak for myself bro.....God chose me,I didn’t choose him...I can’t speak fo others.....but i can’t have anyone force me to believe that I had a choice....because I didn’t.

Same as following the Lord......He keeps me following him.
 
jackrosie

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Rosemaryx said:
Amen...He showing me to , on how not to behave in a certain manner , it is humbling when God corrects us , it reminds me of how He has His eye on us all the time , even what we type...
...xox...
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Amen sis.....you and I are on the same page...xx
 
oyster67

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Why would God make someone who He had no intension of choosing?
 
jackrosie

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I agree with the Calvinist about not having a choice..I did not choose God chose me.

I don’t know about others...I only know that I never had a choice.
How can anyone speak for others.
 
Nehemiah6

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Chester said:
But if Christ is not preached, then you have a heteros gospel.
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If Christ is indeed preached, then He must be preached as the Savior of the world. Not simply the Savior of the so-called *elect*.

And since TULIP denies that Christ died for the sins of the whole world, you do have ANOTHER GOSPEL. But here is what the Lord Jesus Christ said about Himself:

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 
jackrosie

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oyster67 said:
That's the point. Calvinism is not Biblical. We are Christians, not Calvins.
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I’m not talking about Calvinist bro...although I agree with them about being drawn and chosen ,it’s biblical...and God knows who will perish....I don’t.xx
 
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Calvinist also focus on the fruit of the Spirit...so do I,as it’s biblical..God has called me to bear the Lords fruit....
He’s warned me about my behaviour....he is a just God....but I don’t want to over step the mark....I respect and fear the Lord.

He has chastised me and it hurt...I don’t want to go through that again....so every day I say ..Lord help me be obedient to you and your will....more of Jesus less of me.
 
preacher4truth

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jackrosie said:
If it’s biblical then afraid so....
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It is biblical. 2 Peter 3:9 is written to the elect. He is patient with "us," not willing any (of "us," those he has chosen) should perish, but that all (same audience and context still "us") should come to repentance. It isn't about the world at large but shows the reason why God has not ended all things as per the context of what Peter is saying . He is patiently awaiting all of his elect, the "us" to come to repentance in time in this age. When all the chosen are gathered in, then the end will come of which Peter is speaking.

He has stated He shows mercy on whom He wills, and some he hardens. He doesn't owe man anything. That's why grace is grace, it is given without the person meriting favor. If it is obligated or deemed not fair and that everyone deserves "a chance" then it isn't grace at all, it's been turned into obligation. People feel man deserves a chance, but man doesn't deserve this at all. That's why it is still called grace.
 
oyster67

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Magenta said:
The Calvinists say they do not have a choice... and deny that others do, as well.
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If I understand Grimm correctly, Grimm is saying that if we all chose to choose, we would all choose to choose Hell. :unsure:
 
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preacher4truth said:
Unsubstantiated statements are untrue until proven. :)(y)
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Yet my statement is very substantiated. God is not willing that any should perish. If Calvinism were true, then none would. His grace is irresistable, you know.
 
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