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jackrosie

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inHisImage said:
Being in God's Image sadly means we are not perfect like God is. And I have never met a person, including myself, that does not make mistakes. If I was as perfect as I can sometimes believe myself to be, I would have a million written books and living a much better life than I am now ;)
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That’s why it’s good to ask Jesus each day to be more like him....and less of ourselves.....that we bear fruit to Glorify His Name!!
 
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jackrosie said:
That’s why it’s good to ask Jesus each day to be more like him....and less of ourselves.....that we bear fruit to Glorify His Name!!
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I cannot begin to tell you how important bearing good fruit of the Spirit is. But that begins in Love, Compassion, Understanding, Uplifting our Family Members. Disagreeing with misinterpretation sadly does not bear Fruit if it becomes a point to argue. There is such a thin line dividing being in the Spirit and out of the Spirit when it comes to debating. Bearing Fruit in a debate requires a lot of give and take, mostly take. And that is difficult at times to do.
 
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Magenta said:
I realize you are no longer with us, and I am sorry about that; I have had this page open in a separate tab for a while and want to close it, but will respond first, because here you plainly say that the regenerated person exercises faith and repentance and are saved, while also saying people play no role in their salvation, and speak to those who acknowledge they do as if we believe we are saving ourselves when we know it is Jesus Who saves, by grace, through faith, in His shed righteous blood, which reconciles us to God.

Do others see how these two positions do not square with each other? I believe they do :)

Though obviously not everyone ;)
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JUST TRYING TO KEEP YOU HEAR!

1 Corinthians 12:4-6 (HCSB)
4 Now there are different gifts, but the same Spirit.
5 There are different ministries, but the same Lord.
6 And there are different activities, but the same God activates each gift in each person.
 
dcontroversal

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Guojing said:
Are you then willing to understand other people’s opposing point of view? I am not asking you to adopt them.
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I have no problem understand the views of others.....and I weigh them against the simple truth of the bible.....and a spade will always be a spade.....

IF CONTEXT dictates that JESUS is speaking of FALSE teachers and their FRUIT.....I WILL not embellish it and or erroneously apply the word FRUIT to the FRUITS OF THE SPIRIT.....

Context will direct my UNDERSTANDING every time when the word of GOD is addressed!
 
fredoheaven

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jackrosie said:
John 15:8
This is to my Father’s glory,that you bear much fruit,showing yourselves to be my disciples.

AMEN!!!!!
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Fruit bearing in its season. There are several fruits in the bible. Perhaps, bearing much fruit here refers to our conduct since it associated with our love of God and our obedience to him. This comparable with the fruits of righteousness as stated in Romans 6:21-22; Phil. 1: 9-11 to approved things that are excellent...sincere and without offence till the day of Christ, hence doing what's right in accordance to his will. Second, it the fruit of the Holy Spirit which is given to us by the Holy Spirit as we only need to cultivate them and it may also speaks here since the thing mentioned is the joy might be full. Love, joy, peace etc are fruit of the Spirit in the believers life. (Galatians5:22-24) or it may also refer to the converts since our Lord speaks about discipleship as in v.8 bearing much fruit so shall be my disciples. The disciples of the Lord will bear disciple, the thing of multiplying himself through soulwinning. (Romans 1;13).
 
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inHisImage said:
I have! And what I see is someone feeling cornered by people who are supposed to be Family. Naturally, that poster is going to keep refusing your "truths," because they feel attacked. That's why it is important to ask God to correct them.
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When I offer a prayer for someone and they give a red x that’s when I shake the dust off my feet as per the very instructions of Jesus Christ.
 
dcontroversal

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Magenta said:
Amen. I was specifically asking about Jesus Christ, and got opinions about opinions instead. Opinions that were claimed to be their perspective, while they do not practice what they preach.
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The word hypocrite comes from two Greek words and means OPINIONATED ONE.......and we for sure see that being peddled here....especially the opinion of a man named Calvin!
 
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Magenta said:
I specifically asked about absolute truth. You went off on some tangent speaking loosely about truth as opinions after coming against such. Where do you stand on the matter, really? One minute you say one thing, and then when it suits you, you say the opposite.
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Vacillate.....a good word and there are more than a handful that do it on this very thread.....
 
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Duskey said:
When I offer a prayer for someone and they give a red x that’s when I shake the dust off my feet as per the very instructions of Jesus Christ.
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Christ died for them. Do you think He has given up on them? You're not at fault for anything here. But you can still be the one example that changes their view.
 
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inHisImage said:
Christ died for them. Do you think He has given up on them? You're not at fault for anything here. But you can still be the one example that changes their view.
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I agree with Duskey. Once offered, not accepted, even denied, that is enough for me. God will have to do the rest.
 
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I agree with Duskey. Once offered, not accepted, even denied, that is enough for me. God will have to do the rest.
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Your loved one is possessed by the devil. You pray once and the devil still possess them. Do you say, i tried once so enjoy hell?
 
dcontroversal

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Magenta said:
I realize you are no longer with us, and I am sorry about that; I have had this page open in a separate tab for a while and want to close it, but will respond first, because here you plainly say that the regenerated person exercises faith and repentance and are saved, while also saying people play no role in their salvation, and speak to those who acknowledge they do as if we believe we are saving ourselves when we know it is Jesus Who saves, by grace, through faith, in His shed righteous blood, which reconciles us to God.

Do others see how these two positions do not square with each other? I believe they do :)

Though obviously not everyone ;)
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The inherant problem with Calvinism.....Not only is it incorrect, but many truths must be adjusted theologically or flat denied to make it sound correct, but when boiled down...one contradiction after another......we actually had a class in seminary on cults to make us aware of their ways and means if you will. Calvinism was one of the dozen or so we looked at, along with Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses and a few others.....Not mouthing anyone, just stating a fact.
 
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EleventhHour said:
With regards to red X's and such ... it seems the reaction is not based on the content of the post..... but it seems that someone here lately gives that reaction based on who made the post, regardless of the content.
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100% correct.....and the tragic truth...the post can be true and still get a negative mark......
 
dcontroversal

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EleventhHour said:
With regards to red X's and such ... it seems the reaction is not based on the content of the post..... but it seems that someone here lately gives that reaction based on who made the post, regardless of the content.
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100% correct.....and the tragic truth...the post can be true and still get a negative mark......
 
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